Has anyine successfully appealed a speading fine

got a notice of intention for prosecution through last week for speeding [36mph in 30 mph limit] by way of a fixed camera , along the brighton to Southampton coastal road .
incident took place in December and I received the first notice 2 weeks back and replied to them confirming I was the driver.

I have got no points currently but was wondering if I should appeal the 3 points and 100 quid fine
are there any would be lawyers out there with any advice [humorous or otherwise].

called trucknet csi hotline but there all busy working on the mh370 missing airlines case . :slight_smile:

What was you speeding in? Your own vehicle or a company vehicle?

If your own, and you’ve kept the envelope with the post mark on it, you can appeal under the 14 days to notify rule, but if it was a company vehicle you’re screwed there.

Might be worth admitting it if the above isn’t relevant, you might just get a speed awareness course.

twozuluzlu:
got a notice of intention for prosecution through last week for speeding [36mph in 30 mph limit] by way of a fixed camera , along the brighton to Southampton coastal road .
incident took place in December and I received the first notice 2 weeks back and replied to them confirming I was the driver.

I have got no points currently but was wondering if I should appeal the 3 points and 100 quid fine
are there any would be lawyers out there with any advice [humorous or otherwise].

called trucknet csi hotline but there all busy working on the mh370 missing airlines case . :slight_smile:

You would be better off asking on Pepipoo.

Where abouts between Brighton and Southampton? It’s covered by two different forces. If it’s your first time, Sussex safety camera partnership are most likely to offer you the speed awareness course. I’m not too sure about Hampshire though.

Hampshire gave me a course for 57 mph on A303

If you did it then accept it, learn from it and move on

If you did not do it then fight it all the way

You should be offered a speed awareness course for the speed you were over (assuming you accept guilt), at least you won’t get any points though, the course will cost you circa £100 and a day off work.

waynedl:
What was you speeding in? Your own vehicle or a company vehicle?

If your own, and you’ve kept the envelope with the post mark on it, you can appeal under the 14 days to notify rule, but if it was a company vehicle you’re screwed there.

Might be worth admitting it if the above isn’t relevant, you might just get a speed awareness course.

Sounds like the original NIP went to his crap employers first without telling him and they have given them his details, a decent employer would of told you in advance what is going on.
If this was in your regular vehicle, was you actually driving it at the time? I’ve had a similar experience involving my regular truck and a £180 parking ticket with a photo on it as proof of the illegal parking, took one look at the pic and told my boss that I wasn’t driving the vehicle at the time of the offence, his reply was its your truck, so checked the date, went back to the truck and did a print out for it and it showed I was on a 24h rest period for that date!

cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road … y_notices/

30mph = 35 mph =no speeding ticket

10 per cent plus 2 mph

Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mphSpeed limit:
30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mphSpeed limit:
40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mphSpeed limit:
50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mphSpeed limit:
60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mphSpeed limit:
70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph

dangerousdan:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_fixed_penalty_notices/

30mph = 35 mph =no speeding ticket

10 per cent plus 2 mph

Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mphSpeed limit:
30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mphSpeed limit:
40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mphSpeed limit:
50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mphSpeed limit:
60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mphSpeed limit:
70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph

I got 3 points for 45mph in a 40 in roadworks on the M275 going into portsmouth.

Snowgo:

dangerousdan:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_fixed_penalty_notices/

30mph = 35 mph =no speeding ticket

10 per cent plus 2 mph

Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mphSpeed limit:
30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mphSpeed limit:
40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mphSpeed limit:
50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mphSpeed limit:
60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mphSpeed limit:
70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph

I got 3 points for 45mph in a 40 in roadworks on the M275 going into portsmouth.

Should have appealed it I was doing 40 mph judge honest
based on cps 10 per cent plus 2 mph
I was under 46 mph set by cps
case thrown out if court.

dangerousdan:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_fixed_penalty_notices/

30mph = 35 mph =no speeding ticket

10 per cent plus 2 mph

Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mphSpeed limit:
30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mphSpeed limit:
40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mphSpeed limit:
50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mphSpeed limit:
60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mphSpeed limit:
70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph

They are ACPO ‘guidelines’

This 2 weeks to get the NIP is bollox!
Its a myth.

Derf:

dangerousdan:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_fixed_penalty_notices/

30mph = 35 mph =no speeding ticket

10 per cent plus 2 mph

Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mphSpeed limit:
30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mphSpeed limit:
40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mphSpeed limit:
50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mphSpeed limit:
60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mphSpeed limit:
70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph

They are ACPO ‘guidelines’

so what the point of the cps

were all done for
set all speeding fines to plus 1 mph the posted speed limit.

tesco drivers are safe they only do 10 mph on motorways to save fuel every little helps.

Gembo:
This 2 weeks to get the NIP is bollox!
Its a myth.

No it’s not.

The registered keeper must receive the NIP within 14 days from the date of offence.

motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure … cution.php

trubster:

Gembo:
This 2 weeks to get the NIP is bollox!
Its a myth.

No it’s not.

The registered keeper must receive the NIP within 14 days from the date of offence.

Yeah I know that, I meant if if its a company vehicle!
Sorry, should have been clearer.
I found that out after getting one in 2008! It took 5 weeks to come through.

trubster:

Gembo:
This 2 weeks to get the NIP is bollox!
Its a myth.

No it’s not.

The registered keeper must receive the NIP within 14 days from the date of offence.

Yep and if you deny all knowledge of receiving the NIP when they send the next letter out and tell them that as two weeks have passed, they don’t pursue it :sunglasses:

They don’t use registered mail, so it’s your word against theirs and as they can’t prove you got it, you are presumed innocent of not responding to the NIP.

Once that has been established, the law says you have no charge as you haven’t been notified within fourteen days of the offence.

Just bend over and apply the vaseline.Accept a speed awareness course if offered otherwise you have to inform your motor insurer and they ramp up your premiums.

dangerousdan:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_fixed_penalty_notices/

30mph = 35 mph =no speeding ticket

10 per cent plus 2 mph

Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mphSpeed limit:
30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mphSpeed limit:
40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mphSpeed limit:
50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mphSpeed limit:
60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mphSpeed limit:
70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph

Doesn’t always apply, this is taken from the same website:

Note that these are guidelines and that a police officer has discretion to act outside of them providing he acts fairly, consistently and proportionately.

I did a speed awareness course in 2011 and the person sat next to me was done for 34 mph in a 30. I was on 36 but there was also a woman on the course for 82 mph on a motorway.