Handed my notice in

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Can somebody tell me where I stand, been working where I am now for two years and the job is on a fixed salary ie no pay for overtime (day work only, 7.30am till 5pm) so if your back to the yard later than 5 you got jack SSS for it, it has got worse and worse so now I’ve got fixed up with a new job starting 10 Nov

So today they tried to make it so I was going to be late back knowing I’m away on holiday tomorrow, sent me to Poole (any hours drive from depot on a clear run) for a collection, gets there @ 3.15pm was told 'I wont get touched till at least 4pm due to 4 wagons in front of me then add time for me to get loaded, I rang work told them the situation and that I wasn’t prepared to wait, I got told to wait (have you guessed what’s coming) I told them no as it would make me late back to the yard, I got told to wait again, I told them no and I’m coming back empty, I got told wait again, to which I replied no I coming back as it was going to make me late back, after a heated row I handed my notice in, now for the crunch part and my dilemma, when I got back to the yard I gave the manager a written letter of my notice stating my finishing date 6 Nov (giving 1 months noticed as required in my contract) his reply was you’ve dropped use in it you can go now, I said I’m prepared to work my notice out after I return after my weeks holiday and he was adamant that I finish there and then, have I been sacked? does he have to pay me to the end of my notice?

any advice much appreciated.

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You could try an unfair dismissal claim i suppose (i wouldn’t bother, but up to you), but tbh you sound as stressed as buggery and i’d be out like a shot if i were you, maybe do a little temping if you fancy it, then have a week off before starting the new job with a fresh head, and forget the tossers where you are now.

edit…maybe when the dust has settled you could give others here a clue so they can avoid the place.

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You are obliged to give an employer notice of your intention to leave, normally a pay period, eg, paid weekly, give a week, monthly, give a month etc.

However, an employer doesn’t have to accept your notice. It seldom happens but they are entitled to say, no need to work off your notice, finish today. And as long as they settle all your hours and holiday money and things, that’s it.

Companies normally only do this if there has been a disagreement or if they are afraid of knowledge or contacts, stock etc being taken.
Well within his rights I’m afraid and no he doesn’t have to pay you. Bad deal all round

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If you can get an earlier start or you can afford it, I’d go now. Why work for a womans’ genital area any longer than necessary?
We’re meant to give a months’ notice although we’re weekly paid. I’m sure you must be at a disadvantage when at the interview and you say “months’ notice” and someone else can do a week. I think two working weeks is reasonable enough, if they can’t replace you in a fortnight there’s something wrong.
One our relief drivers is an ex car salesman; When they leave they go that same day.

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I would check with ACAS, you have given one months notice even tough he has asked you not to work it you are still entitled to your months pay, it’s known as garden leave. Lots of sales people get told to there and then.
So I do think you should be paid for your notice period.

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thanks for the replies chaps, Juddian you spot on with the ‘stressed’ bit, just what I needed before going on holiday tomorrow, but hayho got a new job to look forward too

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I’m gonna come from the other side now and come with the harsh words, you wanted you hand in your notice, but you effectively walked away from a job. Therefore your employer is within their right to go down the route of sacking you, and class it under gross misconduct. It is harsh, and I feel for you especially if he knew you was going on holiday today, but that’s how idiotic and childish some managers are.

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I understand what your saying Neilp.

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neilp1982:
I’m gonna come from the other side now and come with the harsh words, you wanted you hand in your notice, but you effectively walked away from a job. Therefore your employer is within their right to go down the route of sacking you, and class it under gross misconduct. It is harsh, and I feel for you especially if he knew you was going on holiday today, but that’s how idiotic and childish some managers are.

This sounds correct to me, you left yourself open to trouble coming home empty (even if they knew you were wanting to finish early)

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How long have you worked there for? If less than a year they can sack you for no reason with no notice.

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Lankytim:
How long have you worked there for? If less than a year they can sack you for no reason with no notice.

It’s now 2 years apparantly!

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yep 2 years 1 Oct, I’ll just have to wait to see what I get paid on the 28th lol, sod it I’m not going to let it ruin the holiday :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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If you are contracted to work until 17:00 then your employer is in breach of contract by expecting you to work beyond 17:00 and if your employer has sacked you then you have a good case for constructive dismissal.

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If you’ve already asked that you get an early finish’ and he then gives you a pick up knowing fine well that its going to make you late, then your boss is a bell end and its not worth your while working for him anyway. Could be a blessing in disguise that he let’s you go.

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dreamlands2001:
Can somebody tell me where I stand, been working where I am now for two years and the job is on a fixed salary ie no pay for overtime (day work only, 7.30am till 5pm) so if your back to the yard later than 5 you got jack SSS for it, it has got worse and worse so now I’ve got fixed up with a new job starting 10 Nov

So today they tried to make it so I was going to be late back knowing I’m away on holiday tomorrow, sent me to Poole (any hours drive from depot on a clear run) for a collection, gets there @ 3.15pm was told 'I wont get touched till at least 4pm due to 4 wagons in front of me then add time for me to get loaded, I rang work told them the situation and that I wasn’t prepared to wait, I got told to wait (have you guessed what’s coming) I told them no as it would make me late back to the yard, I got told to wait again, I told them no and I’m coming back empty, I got told wait again, to which I replied no I coming back as it was going to make me late back, after a heated row I handed my notice in, now for the crunch part and my dilemma, when I got back to the yard I gave the manager a written letter of my notice stating my finishing date 6 Nov (giving 1 months noticed as required in my contract) his reply was you’ve dropped use in it you can go now, I said I’m prepared to work my notice out after I return after my weeks holiday and he was adamant that I finish there and then, have I been sacked? does he have to pay me to the end of my notice?

any advice much appreciated.

The statotory minimum notice he must give you is one weeks notice unless he has sacked you on the grounds of gross misconduct
If gross misconduct is Not the case then he is legally abolished to give you a minimum of a week in lieu of arrears
For which you can seek remunition for
Unless you contract states it is more then one weeks notice

nidirect.gov.uk/notice-and-notice-pay

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kitbuilder123:
You are obliged to give an employer notice of your intention to leave, normally a pay period, eg, paid weekly, give a week, monthly, give a month etc.

However, an employer doesn’t have to accept your notice. It seldom happens but they are entitled to say, no need to work off your notice, finish today. And as long as they settle all your hours and holiday money and things, that’s it.

Companies normally only do this if there has been a disagreement or if they are afraid of knowledge or contacts, stock etc being taken.
Well within his rights I’m afraid and no he doesn’t have to pay you. Bad deal all round

I agree you are obliged to give an employer notice of your intention to leave, otherwise they can sue you for breach of contract and claim things against you like loss of earning and having to hire an agency driver ect.

But if the employee was dismissed and did not resigne he/she is entitled to there notice period

neilp1982:
I’m gonna come from the other side now and come with the harsh words, you wanted you hand in your notice, but you effectively walked away from a job. Therefore your employer is within their right to go down the route of sacking you, and class it under gross misconduct. It is harsh, and I feel for you especially if he knew you was going on holiday today, but that’s how idiotic and childish some managers are.

And what grounds dose he had for gross misconduct■■?

neilp1982:
This sounds correct to me, you left yourself open to trouble coming home empty (even if they knew you were wanting to finish early)

And dose the company have a disaplinary process? that certain things will qualify for a verbal, written, final warning then dismisal
Did the employer say he was sacking him coz he wanted to come home early?

Lankytim:
How long have you worked there for? If less than a year they can sack you for no reason with no notice.

Please see the link I provided above and you will see that this is complete nonsense
It states one month

dessy:

Lankytim:
How long have you worked there for? If less than a year they can sack you for no reason with no notice.

It’s now 2 years apparantly!

Again nonsense!
After an employe has worked for a company of over 2 year; for every extra year they are entitled to an extra week of notice
Again see the above link

Harry Monk:
If you are contracted to work until 17:00 then your employer is in breach of contract by expecting you to work beyond 17:00 and if your employer has sacked you then you have a good case for constructive dismissal.

I take good point from that Harry
And would advise the OP to upload a copy of his contract for us to see

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Why Am I wasting my time hear coz I fell that the OP is being led up the garden path by people who dont know what they are talking about but think they do!
If you dont belive me ask Mick from Liverpool (one of the mods)
I have a history a suing X employers and I have won every case accept for one
And Taylors Transport in next on the list!

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No. You haven`t been sacked.
You handed your notice in and the manager said its ok to leave immediately. Thats great! You get paid up until the end of your notice period.

Have a great holiday mate. Onward and upward.

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You’re a ■■■■. Think of how much ■■■■ you must have put the company through to try and cover the job you screwed-up. Why did you think they were going to let you near their business again.

Even on day one of lorry diving school you’re taught not to make plans. If going away at a specific time was important you should of book the afternoon off. Things change and much of it out of the control of the transporter. That’s life I am afraid.

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Plambert:
You’re a ■■■■. Think of how much [zb] you must have put the company through to try and cover the job you screwed-up. Why did you think they were going to let you near their business again.

Even on day one of lorry diving school you’re taught not to make plans. If going away at a specific time was important you should of book the afternoon off. Things change and much of it out of the control of the transporter. That’s life I am afraid.

he’s going on holiday tomorrow ■■■■ :grimacing: they tried to shaft him :laughing: another rimmer :unamused: stop trolling plambert :sunglasses: