Anyone know anything about them.
Is £10 p.h the going rate for agency in magna park area(all hours in week so I understand)
Travelling allowance of .45 ppm,is that reasonable,do agency’s normally pay travelling 
B+b,do agencies pay that,% of it if you stop at one
How does this umbrella thing work good/bad. Ta.
dozy:
Anyone know anything about them.
Is £10 p.h the going rate for agency in magna park area(all hours in week so I understand)
Travelling allowance of .45 ppm,is that reasonable,do agency’s normally pay travelling
B+b,do agencies pay that,% of it if you stop at one
How does this umbrella thing work
Its been a while since i worked out of Magna Park so i’m not sure on the going pay rates. I have worked for H&G before, i think you’ll find that the milage allowance, just like the cost of your B&B comes out of your takings (wage) before tax. You’ll need to lay this money out yourself usually and its returned to you in your pay packet .
I can’t see it being worth your while at them rates though but then i don’t know what you need to earn.
Here’s a run down of what your pay packet will look like (i’ve made a few guesses) so its only rough.
50 hours worked=£500
lets say you commute once a week from say Newark to magna park and a few miles each day from B&B to work, for five days Mon to Fri. 125 miles @ 0.45ppm thats £56, B&B @ £18 per night, four nights £72.
They’ll charge you about £25 to administer the umberella scheme. You’ll be lucky to see £400 of it and you’ll have no holiday pay.
Get it PAYE (Not “pseudo” paye mind…) and it’s an OK deal all around.
The rates are very much “going rates” which no one should ever have to pay to get, so don’t. 
You can tell if it’s proper PAYE by the fact you’ll not be paying two lots of stamp, get money put into your holiday pot that didn’t come out of your £10ph, and you get a payslip every week with no umbrella deductions on it, or negative signs in front of any of the expenses (like firms like Blue Arrow do to hide their own umbrella system known as “Blue Arrow Benefits”)
Winseer:
Get it PAYE (Not “pseudo” paye mind…) and it’s an OK deal all around.
I’d agree if he was travelling from home each day to work but if he’s staying in digs and having to commute then this is what them schemes where designed for…‘contractors’.
The umbrella schemes are designed to extract around £27 per week from payslips, thus encouraging people to work longer hours (because the percentage loss is less) or without holiday pay (pulled in by the £1ph extra promises)
They have no place on zero hours contracts, thus I would not touch umbrella for any work paying less than £15ph (days) with blocks of work lasting weeks at a time that then didn’t get cancelled after the first shift (betraying that it in fact it was a zero hour contract in disguise!).
I’ve not had a sniff of what I’d call PROPER “contract” work as I’ve described it.
Drivers are constantly told we’re “always worth paying less, because we’re only a notch above estate agents on the social scale”.
With that in mind, I’m not going to get involved in the £40ph+ accountancy industry without some like-for-like pay being thrown around.
Umbrella is their cushy little number - not ours.
Mike-C:
dozy:
Anyone know anything about them.
Is £10 p.h the going rate for agency in magna park area(all hours in week so I understand)
Travelling allowance of .45 ppm,is that reasonable,do agency’s normally pay travelling
B+b,do agencies pay that,% of it if you stop at one
How does this umbrella thing workIts been a while since i worked out of Magna Park so i’m not sure on the going pay rates. I have worked for H&G before, i think you’ll find that the milage allowance, just like the cost of your B&B comes out of your takings (wage) before tax. You’ll need to lay this money out yourself usually and its returned to you in your pay packet .
I can’t see it being worth your while at them rates though but then i don’t know what you need to earn.
Here’s a run down of what your pay packet will look like (i’ve made a few guesses) so its only rough.
50 hours worked=£500
lets say you commute once a week from say Newark to magna park and a few miles each day from B&B to work, for five days Mon to Fri. 125 miles @ 0.45ppm thats £56, B&B @ £18 per night, four nights £72.
They’ll charge you about £25 to administer the umberella scheme. You’ll be lucky to see £400 of it and you’ll have no holiday pay.
Thanks mike,but it’s not for me,one of our lads who was made redundant,he was originally rang and asked if he wanted a full time job at Lutterworth,even though he’d done the jobs for years he had to apply,assessment etc,but after all that they told him he lived too far away(ollerton,can’t understand why they didn’t look at distance first),he then thought that was the end of it.
But the operations manager rang him last week and said they had got a memo from widnes saying it was o.k to take him on,but through a agency,so apparently this agency is going to be the only one at this site and he’s had a interview with them,he asked me if I new anything about rates,umbrella schemes which i don’t,so as he has no p.c I said I’d see what I could find out for him.
Too me it’s too far,ollerton - Lutterworth,think he said 58 miles,but at the end of the day that’s his choice,all you can do is try and help,as best you can,thanks again mike
Winseer:
The umbrella schemes are designed to extract around £27 per week from payslips, thus encouraging people to work longer hours (because the percentage loss is less) or without holiday pay (pulled in by the £1ph extra promises)They have no place on zero hours contracts, thus I would not touch umbrella for any work paying less than £15ph (days) with blocks of work lasting weeks at a time that then didn’t get cancelled after the first shift (betraying that it in fact it was a zero hour contract in disguise!).
I’ve not had a sniff of what I’d call PROPER “contract” work as I’ve described it.
Drivers are constantly told we’re “always worth paying less, because we’re only a notch above estate agents on the social scale”.
With that in mind, I’m not going to get involved in the £40ph+ accountancy industry without some like-for-like pay being thrown around.Umbrella is their cushy little number - not ours.
All a bit above my head to be honest but thanks anyway,the problem is he like a lot took his redundancy assuming they’d walk in too a job,alright they had the redundancy as a back up but as we all know you soon start using it up if your unemployed for a month or two,he’s now realising that,but too me if he’s going to do agency why travel 50+ miles to do it if there’s some avaliable locally,he’s also falling into the trap of 50x£10,15x13,15x16, etc,etc,but in my limited experience it could just as well be 0 hrs,or 1day etc,etc ,again thank
N.b he was meant to have a assesment drive with agency,but according to him there no trucks/tris to use,so again more days where he’s not working/earning 
,thanks again
ollerton to magna ■■?
what about the co-op on adr agency ■■?
holliefabbabe:
ollerton to magna ■■?what about the co-op on adr agency ■■?
Co-op don’t do Wakefield/sparks every day 
,he took redundancy because he wouldn’t do shop deliveries out of donny,soI guess he wouldn’t do them out of cat wood.
Before this came up he was on about freshlinc /spalding 
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donny job is sound ,i very rarely do more than 8 hours , normaly 6
holliefabbabe:
donny job is sound ,i very rarely do more than 8 hours , normaly 6
Lads got assesment on b/h Monday,being taken by a POLE 
he’s not impressed