GUY Big J 8LXB Tractor Unit

fryske:

dpickup15:

Bewick:
Has anyone ever built one,sold one when new,repaired one,DRIVEN one,or at least seen one or possibly got a photo (side view) showing the 8 potter sticking out the rear of the cab .

Hi Dennis, Jim Wall Container Transport, Liverpool had one at the Leyland Museum August 23rd to attend the Great British lorries day meeting. dpickup15.

Yep - and there’s pictures of it earlier in the thread!

Yea but that one is a replica isn’t it ? not an original build from Fallings Park ! Cheers Bewick.

Bewick:

fryske:

dpickup15:

Bewick:
Has anyone ever built one,sold one when new,repaired one,DRIVEN one,or at least seen one or possibly got a photo (side view) showing the 8 potter sticking out the rear of the cab .

Hi Dennis, Jim Wall Container Transport, Liverpool had one at the Leyland Museum August 23rd to attend the Great British lorries day meeting. dpickup15.

Yep - and there’s pictures of it earlier in the thread!

Yea but that one is a replica isn’t it ? not an original build from Fallings Park ! Cheers Bewick.

Replicas are no good, Its the real photographic eveidence that’s needed to solve this mystery out, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Regards Larry.

Lawrence Dunbar:
Replicas are no good, Its the real photographic eveidence that’s needed to solve this mystery out, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Regards Larry.

The ‘evidence’ might be there ‘if’ the Evans wagon is the real deal. :wink:

Carryfast:

Lawrence Dunbar:
Replicas are no good, Its the real photographic eveidence that’s needed to solve this mystery out, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Regards Larry.

The ‘evidence’ might be there ‘if’ the Evans wagon is the real deal. :wink:

It’s the real deal :exclamation:

Dave the Renegade:

Carryfast:

Lawrence Dunbar:
Replicas are no good, Its the real photographic eveidence that’s needed to solve this mystery out, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Regards Larry.

The ‘evidence’ might be there ‘if’ the Evans wagon is the real deal. :wink:

It’s the real deal :exclamation:

I don’t doubt this for one minute Dave, But a photo of this Big J With the 8 potter in would solve this ongoing saga IMO, :laughing: :laughing: :lo Regards Larry…

I don’t want to get involved in this argument but what reg would the 2 longton vehicles be? This photo is on the stoke thread and might be them or then again, might not be. The 2 outside ones seem to be sleepers and the numbers 417 and 418 but S reg. Just a thought

2nd November 1973, Page 30
Keywords : Rolls-royce Eagle, Hospitality / Recreation
• Power ratos of up to 8_62 bhp /ton are now available for Guy Big 14T
32-ton tractive units following the announcement today of three new
engine options for the range.
The opbons which are now available are the turbocharged Rolls-Royce
Eagle Mark Ill 290 (developing 271 bhp net installed to BS AU 141a
1971), the ■■■■■■■ NTL 290 (276 bhp) and the Gardner BIXB (246
bhp) Power-to-weight ratios with these engines in vehicles operating at
32 tons gcw are 847, 862 and T 7 bhp/ton respectively.
Borg and Beck twin-plate clutches and Fuller RTO g50gA range-
change gearboxes are specified with crawler ratio of 8.76:1 and first
gear of Overdrive top on this nine-speed gearbox is
The nominal input torque limit of 900 1b n IS well above the torque
output of the
engine options concerned_ The clutch is hydrau"cally operated with air
assistance provided on Rolls-Royce and ■■■■■■■ installations.
Ar cleaners are rear-of-cab gantrymounted, a Cooper 14in_ Cylopac
being specified for Rolls-Royce and Gardner and a GKN Farr 48-cell
Unipanic for the ■■■■■■■■ Fan diameter has been increased to 24in.
and radiators with an area of 837 sq are fitted for Rolls-Royce
and ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ vehicles while Gardner-engined units have 5.85
sq radiators. The former also have Viso F cold-start devices fitted.
The new cab front panel which has recently been introduced to all Guy
models is also fitted.
Behind the air cleaner gantry a new underframe is now common to all
Guy tractive units.
2nd November 1973
Zoom pa
Page 30
Better torque
in Mklll
Leyland 500
— Test bed
fuel counter
Noise regs
for" for US
Noticed an error?

that’s a piece from cm archive, which I have trawled through. Nothing more on a 240 though :frowning: :unamused: :question:

Hey Guy’s

JUST BUMPING THIS THREAD AS NOW’T BEEN SAID IN NEARLY 30 DAYS!!!

:smiley: :unamused: IS THERE OR IS THERE NOT :question: :question:

E.W.

Found this one, picture courtesy of Tony Wallace.

Big j 2.jpg

Big J.jpg

WOW…at last…110 pages…Well Den, you can rest easy…your early Christmas prezzie… :smiley: :laughing: :open_mouth: :blush: :sunglasses: :unamused: :wink:

altitude:
Found this one, picture courtesy of Tony Wallace.

There are four holes in the chassis just after the air cooler,these look like the old gearbox mounting position.

jeffrey ellener:

altitude:
Found this one, picture courtesy of Tony Wallace.

There are four holes in the chassis just after the air cooler,these look like the old gearbox mounting position.

Hiya,
That’s a well put together swell looking mongrel so it doesn’t count, wasn’t
this one formerly a 180 Gardner so would have been rubbish in its original
format they were a much better tool with a Roller or ■■■■■■■■ inboard.
thanks harry, long retired.

harry_gill:

jeffrey ellener:

altitude:
Found this one, picture courtesy of Tony Wallace.

There are four holes in the chassis just after the air cooler,these look like the old gearbox mounting position.

Hiya,
That’s a well put together swell looking mongrel so it doesn’t count, wasn’t
this one formerly a 180 Gardner so would have been rubbish in its original
format they were a much better tool with a Roller or ■■■■■■■■ inboard.
thanks harry, long retired.

Well said “H” and “Mongrel” is an apt description but that rebuild is a real credit to the owner although still only a “Facsimile” of the real thing if indeed there ever was one eh! I agree with you that the 180LXB Big J’s were a bit numb but they were good reliable fleet motors that gave no trouble,well the six we run didn’t :wink: Cheers Dennis.

I’ve been reading the 1975 truck test match for the Erf /240 gardner against 7 other makes ,although not the fastest as that’s the f88 which it says uses a lot more fuel however the Gardner looks to be a clear 0.5 mpg better than the rest and sometimes even more .

Punchy Dan:
I’ve been reading the 1975 truck test match for the Erf /240 gardner against 7 other makes ,although not the fastest as that’s the f88 which it says uses a lot more fuel however the Gardner looks to be a clear 0.5 mpg better than the rest and sometimes even more .

You are a one Dan’l,!! But was there a Big J with 240LXB engine on the trial ? don’t worry about the F88’s they were juice gobblers, I know as I ran 6 of the thirsty ■■■■■■■■ !! cheers Dennis.

Bewick:

Punchy Dan:
I’ve been reading the 1975 truck test match for the Erf /240 gardner against 7 other makes ,although not the fastest as that’s the f88 which it says uses a lot more fuel however the Gardner looks to be a clear 0.5 mpg better than the rest and sometimes even more .

You are a one Dan’l,!! But was there a Big J with 240LXB engine on the trial ? don’t worry about the F88’s they were juice gobblers, I know as I ran 6 of the thirsty [zb] !! cheers Dennis.

Hiya,
Aye’ the F88 certainly liked their ■■■■■, and as for being nippy they couldn’t live
with my Roller engined Seddon of the same era, I could be there tipped and I’d
have the sheets rolled up and a backload sorted before they made the scene.
thanks harry, long retired.

Retired Old ■■■■:
I’m almost ashamed to ask, being a devoted fan of my BRS Big J, but was the lorry ever produced with a tilt cab?

The ones that I drove ROF ,non benefited from a tilt cab,although to be fair,apart from regular servicing,the motors were never in dock needing a tilting cab!!!

David

Dave the Renegade:

Spot on Trev. Gaydon Classic Commercial Vehicle Show 2010.

Dave,

The square spotlights spoil the lines of the Big J,delivered new they came with a single round spotlight,which looked much better,IMHO.

David

Hiya,
Guy’s did produce a tilt cab job Big J, but seemingly it needed major surgery to get
to the tilting stage I only ever saw one with “the shed tipped” and that was a 180
Gardner engined job in I think at Newport or Cardiff BRS workshops.
thanks harry, long retired.

Telekonsteve:
2nd November 1973, Page 30
Keywords : Rolls-royce Eagle, Hospitality / Recreation
• Power ratos of up to 8_62 bhp /ton are now available for Guy Big 14T
32-ton tractive units following the announcement today of three new
engine options for the range.
The opbons which are now available are the turbocharged Rolls-Royce
Eagle Mark Ill 290 (developing 271 bhp net installed to BS AU 141a
1971), the ■■■■■■■ NTL 290 (276 bhp) and the Gardner BIXB (246
bhp) Power-to-weight ratios with these engines in vehicles operating at
32 tons gcw are 847, 862 and T 7 bhp/ton respectively.
Borg and Beck twin-plate clutches and Fuller RTO g50gA range-
change gearboxes are specified with crawler ratio of 8.76:1 and first
gear of Overdrive top on this nine-speed gearbox is
The nominal input torque limit of 900 1b n IS well above the torque
output of the
engine options concerned_ The clutch is hydrau"cally operated with air
assistance provided on Rolls-Royce and ■■■■■■■ installations.
Ar cleaners are rear-of-cab gantrymounted, a Cooper 14in_ Cylopac
being specified for Rolls-Royce and Gardner and a GKN Farr 48-cell
Unipanic for the ■■■■■■■■ Fan diameter has been increased to 24in.
and radiators with an area of 837 sq are fitted for Rolls-Royce
and ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ vehicles while Gardner-engined units have 5.85
sq radiators. The former also have Viso F cold-start devices fitted.
The new cab front panel which has recently been introduced to all Guy
models is also fitted.
Behind the air cleaner gantry a new underframe is now common to all
Guy tractive units.
2nd November 1973
Zoom pa
Page 30
Better torque
in Mklll
Leyland 500
— Test bed
fuel counter
Noise regs
for" for US
Noticed an error?

that’s a piece from cm archive, which I have trawled through. Nothing more on a 240 though :frowning: :unamused: :question:

Isnt this the proof youve been looking for ■■? :wink: