dennis it was 8LXC 265 COME ON BOSS !!! i know you are losing the will to live but dont let carryfast grind you down with his slaver!!
yappie:
dennis it was 8LXC 265 COME ON BOSS !!! i know you are losing the will to live but dont let carryfast grind you down with his slaver!!![]()
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Hi yappie,
Keep your head down mate,its a bit like the OK corral on this thread,you don’t know when the gunfights going to start.
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Cheers Dave.
Hiya I’ve just seen this on the night heater site.It relates to DD two strokes. FUEL IS SO CHEAP OVER IN THE STATES NOBODY CARES ABOUT LEAVING THERE
ENGINE RUNNING(500hp)ALL NIGHT TO KEEP WARM.dose that mean diesel is not £5.17p per gallon in dd country.
Re: Nightheaters.
by newmercman » Sun Jan 24, 2010
In Canada & the Northern States it is, it gets too cold in the winter to turn the thing off, some trucks have night heaters & an engine block heater but even those are no good when it gets below -20c, the batteries can’t take it.
Fuel has been so cheap over there until recently that nobody cared about it, it’s the same in the summer, everyone runs the truck with the A/C on to keep
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cool, you should hear the noise in a truckstop at night.orld countries.
John
yappie:
dennis it was 8LXC 265 COME ON BOSS !!! i know you are losing the will to live but dont let carryfast grind you down with his slaver!!![]()
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Yea OK JR I did hesitate when I typed LXB and thought should that be “C” but some Knowledge box will put me straight !! guess who that was ?But at least if I went to buy a Guy 8LXB I wouldn’t come back with a 6LXB !! Dennis.
3300John:
Hiya all …why i was so intrested in the big J, I was 17. The M6 was been lengthened upto Carlisle from Carnforth and the chap who i used to ride with let me have the wheel of this 3 month old Guy big J 180(dont tell the HSE).The motorway was mostly stone so the speed limit was only a few mph at first later it was mcadam and i was older. This was my training. So eversince I’ve had a thing about bigJs.Someone said there was’nt much room for him in the Guy well it seemed pritty big to me all those years ago.I can remember seeing Smiths lorries as i was Guy big J spotter but never remember seeing one with a 240
but would have liked to have done as i was a Gardner man until 1980.I bet alot of you have seen me and thinking 21 year olds look younger. well i was only
18 and a bit usually crusing up and down the M6 at weekends.
John.
Me again John who was the bloke you rode with in the big J and where did he haul from onto the M6 ? Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
3300John:
A bit on GM twostrokesHow about this for a bit of classic American trucking history? Yes it’s a GMC ‘Crackerbox’ and I am most grateful to ‘Crackerbox Jimmie’ who originally sent me this e-mail saying: “I drove two ‘Crackerboxes’ in the late 60s, a '61 and then a '64. The '61 had a V6 Detroit Diesel, rated as I remember at 218hp, pushing a single screw through a five-speed Eaton with a two-speed axle. The '64 has a 238hp Detroit, single screw with a ten-speed Fuller Roadranger. These trucks were very basic, with a narrow bunk, wider at the passenger end of the cab. Leg room was extremely limited and instumentation was mimimal. no aircon and heaters were weak. The '61 was a piece of junk, nothing but trouble with it. The '64 was a good truck for its day. The 238 was a strong engine and I hauled household goods all over the eastern US, west to Colorado and New Mexico.” Well BLB naturally asked Jimmie if he had any shots of his trucks and he’s come back with this absolute ‘cracker!’ for which I am most grateful. Now click through for more from the man himself…
This is on Big lorry Blog
John3300 John
It looks like he could’nt find a decent firm to work for running something like this instead.Or it just proves again that it does’nt matter where you are in the world or when it’s better to work as an owner driver than an employed one especially if you ended up with a guvnor like bewick and put on one of those GM heaps or a Gardner powered one.![]()
By the way check out the comments from modern day 60 series fans who don’t seem to have a clue that the motor that they’re looking at is a 14 Litre V12 with around 500 horses but unlike the 60 series it has’nt got a turbocharger.So what would the 60 series do without a turbo and what would be the fuel consumption of two 240 Gardners fitted in one truck and what would be the the weight?.
youtube.com/watch?v=R1FnUfPP … re=related
youtube.com/watch?v=LoTtpxfq … re=relatedHey Carryfast you saying I was a bad Guvnor ■■ I’ll have you know we always had a loyal long serving set of drivers !! the only ones that didn’t last were probably the ones with your attitude to work !! and believe me we soon sorted out those that didn’t make the grade !! We also never had any complaints about the type or quality of our fleet and finally Carryfast I always had good relations with the T&G union as in their books we were classed as good employers !! So there my son pick the bones out of that . Cheers Bewick.
No bewick it’s just that there’s probably no such thing as good guvnor that’s why they need unions in the first place.
So are you saying that you would have given all of your drivers the choice between a Gardner powered British heap or a decent big power Scandinavian,Euro,or yank type used by many owner drivers or all those drivers who were lucky enough to work for firms where their guvnors were the exceptions which proved the rule?
As usual Carryfast you are talking B******s !! No properly managed outfit can give the drivers “carte blanch” to choose their own motor !( the mind boggles as to how you can make the suggestion in the first place ) If the course of action you propose was followed you would have firms trying to run every type of motor under the sun !! All that would be achieved would be dozens of firms going out of business every week !! Just imagine if I’d have had a dozen Carryfast’s on the team all wanting and been given god knows what kind of exotic spec of American truck !!! I think I would end up climbing over the fence and putting my head on the Railway line !! You never cease to amaze Carryfast !! Keep taking the tablets !! you may vary the dose from time to time !! Cheers Bewick.
It’s your type of thinking which wrecked the British truck manufacturing industry and gave it to the foreign manufacturers instead.
OK Carryfast you cretin if you can only respond with one line of verbal diorrea I think us sensible ex hauliers/drivers have obviously won the argument !!! I can tell you that the last UK built tractors that joined our fleet were 2 Sed Atk 401in 1984 and yes my old son they were 8LXB 265s/Fuller/Rockwell !! We did try to continue to buy UK built tractors but I will admitt that Gardners did lose their way as did the fuel consumption on ■■■■■■■ , Rolls Royce ( in my opinion ) were bags of S**t so never ever figured in our requirements !! There now Carryfast I’ve 'fessed up so how about you owning up to being the only man in the regiment that is marching in time — go on nobody will ridicule you for accepting that you are 100% wrong about DDs go on admitt it !!! Bewick.
No because the only thing I liked (almost) as much as a Detroit powered beasty was a DAF powered by a turbocharged Leyland engine which was put in a motor which most guvnors thought was too good for new drivers like me except for the firm which I was lucky enough to get started on.But guess what happened in the years which followed?.They decided to have a mixed fleet of mostly lesser,so called more economical,less powerful,wagons and guess who got first choice and which ones the older senior drivers wanted?.
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Forgive my igronance ive heard of two stroke trucks but way before my time. Do you have to mix oil in the fuel like a two stroke mortorbike.il take that as a no. But theres no need to try and ridicule me im not a mechanic and as ive only been driving for 10 years ive never come across a two stroke truck. Although when i first passed my test i briefly drove a e reg foden tipper with a 300 gardner must have have been one of the last of them. It was ok but i found the revs died a lot slower than the cat and ■■■■■■■ powered ones i have driven which didnt realy suit the fuller gearbox
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Exactly that’s one of the old fashioned characteristics of the typical British heap and it can reach the stage where you’re caught between gears with an engine on the guvnor in one gear but it’ll come to a grinding halt on a hill before the revs fall enough for the next gear and it was one of the advantages of the Detroit that it can lose revs as fast as a fuller can shift and makes the ■■■■■■■ look like a Gardner in most respects.
But I was’nt a mechanic either at 16 but I had enough interest in the job to find out as much as I could about it but that was never good enough for guvnors like bewick.
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
3300John:
A bit on GM twostrokesHow about this for a bit of classic American trucking history? Yes it’s a GMC ‘Crackerbox’ and I am most grateful to ‘Crackerbox Jimmie’ who originally sent me this e-mail saying: “I drove two ‘Crackerboxes’ in the late 60s, a '61 and then a '64. The '61 had a V6 Detroit Diesel, rated as I remember at 218hp, pushing a single screw through a five-speed Eaton with a two-speed axle. The '64 has a 238hp Detroit, single screw with a ten-speed Fuller Roadranger. These trucks were very basic, with a narrow bunk, wider at the passenger end of the cab. Leg room was extremely limited and instumentation was mimimal. no aircon and heaters were weak. The '61 was a piece of junk, nothing but trouble with it. The '64 was a good truck for its day. The 238 was a strong engine and I hauled household goods all over the eastern US, west to Colorado and New Mexico.” Well BLB naturally asked Jimmie if he had any shots of his trucks and he’s come back with this absolute ‘cracker!’ for which I am most grateful. Now click through for more from the man himself…
This is on Big lorry Blog
John3300 John
It looks like he could’nt find a decent firm to work for running something like this instead.Or it just proves again that it does’nt matter where you are in the world or when it’s better to work as an owner driver than an employed one especially if you ended up with a guvnor like bewick and put on one of those GM heaps or a Gardner powered one.![]()
By the way check out the comments from modern day 60 series fans who don’t seem to have a clue that the motor that they’re looking at is a 14 Litre V12 with around 500 horses but unlike the 60 series it has’nt got a turbocharger.So what would the 60 series do without a turbo and what would be the fuel consumption of two 240 Gardners fitted in one truck and what would be the the weight?.
youtube.com/watch?v=R1FnUfPP … re=related
youtube.com/watch?v=LoTtpxfq … re=relatedHey Carryfast you saying I was a bad Guvnor ■■ I’ll have you know we always had a loyal long serving set of drivers !! the only ones that didn’t last were probably the ones with your attitude to work !! and believe me we soon sorted out those that didn’t make the grade !! We also never had any complaints about the type or quality of our fleet and finally Carryfast I always had good relations with the T&G union as in their books we were classed as good employers !! So there my son pick the bones out of that . Cheers Bewick.
No bewick it’s just that there’s probably no such thing as good guvnor that’s why they need unions in the first place.
So are you saying that you would have given all of your drivers the choice between a Gardner powered British heap or a decent big power Scandinavian,Euro,or yank type used by many owner drivers or all those drivers who were lucky enough to work for firms where their guvnors were the exceptions which proved the rule?
As usual Carryfast you are talking B******s !! No properly managed outfit can give the drivers “carte blanch” to choose their own motor !( the mind boggles as to how you can make the suggestion in the first place ) If the course of action you propose was followed you would have firms trying to run every type of motor under the sun !! All that would be achieved would be dozens of firms going out of business every week !! Just imagine if I’d have had a dozen Carryfast’s on the team all wanting and been given god knows what kind of exotic spec of American truck !!! I think I would end up climbing over the fence and putting my head on the Railway line !! You never cease to amaze Carryfast !! Keep taking the tablets !! you may vary the dose from time to time !! Cheers Bewick.
It’s your type of thinking which wrecked the British truck manufacturing industry and gave it to the foreign manufacturers instead.
OK Carryfast you cretin if you can only respond with one line of verbal diorrea I think us sensible ex hauliers/drivers have obviously won the argument !!! I can tell you that the last UK built tractors that joined our fleet were 2 Sed Atk 401in 1984 and yes my old son they were 8LXB 265s/Fuller/Rockwell !! We did try to continue to buy UK built tractors but I will admitt that Gardners did lose their way as did the fuel consumption on ■■■■■■■ , Rolls Royce ( in my opinion ) were bags of S**t so never ever figured in our requirements !! There now Carryfast I’ve 'fessed up so how about you owning up to being the only man in the regiment that is marching in time — go on nobody will ridicule you for accepting that you are 100% wrong about DDs go on admitt it !!! Bewick.
No because the only thing I liked (almost) as much as a Detroit powered beasty was a DAF powered by a turbocharged Leyland engine which was put in a motor which most guvnors thought was too good for new drivers like me except for the firm which I was lucky enough to get started on.But guess what happened in the years which followed?.They decided to have a mixed fleet of mostly lesser,so called more economical,less powerful,wagons and guess who got first choice and which ones the older senior drivers wanted?.
Hello Carryfast look when you are young and wet behind the ears ( which you still are ) you can’t expect to jump in front of the older reliable drivers can you ? I would have put you put you on a Transit flat or similar ( You could have kitted it out like a 38 tonner – we would have allowed you !!) I would have loved to have seen you parked up amongs’t our artics at a Truck Stop boy would you have got some Wellie off some of our Star men !! Good night and God Bless my little fella Bewick.
Dave the Renegade:
yappie:
dennis it was 8LXC 265 COME ON BOSS !!! i know you are losing the will to live but dont let carryfast grind you down with his slaver!!![]()
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Hi yappie,
Keep your head down mate,its a bit like the OK corral on this thread,you don’t know when the gunfights going to start.![]()
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Cheers Dave.
But just like Wyatt Earp I’m using a shot gun instead of a Colt revolver
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
3300John:
A bit on GM twostrokesHow about this for a bit of classic American trucking history? Yes it’s a GMC ‘Crackerbox’ and I am most grateful to ‘Crackerbox Jimmie’ who originally sent me this e-mail saying: “I drove two ‘Crackerboxes’ in the late 60s, a '61 and then a '64. The '61 had a V6 Detroit Diesel, rated as I remember at 218hp, pushing a single screw through a five-speed Eaton with a two-speed axle. The '64 has a 238hp Detroit, single screw with a ten-speed Fuller Roadranger. These trucks were very basic, with a narrow bunk, wider at the passenger end of the cab. Leg room was extremely limited and instumentation was mimimal. no aircon and heaters were weak. The '61 was a piece of junk, nothing but trouble with it. The '64 was a good truck for its day. The 238 was a strong engine and I hauled household goods all over the eastern US, west to Colorado and New Mexico.” Well BLB naturally asked Jimmie if he had any shots of his trucks and he’s come back with this absolute ‘cracker!’ for which I am most grateful. Now click through for more from the man himself…
This is on Big lorry Blog
John3300 John
It looks like he could’nt find a decent firm to work for running something like this instead.Or it just proves again that it does’nt matter where you are in the world or when it’s better to work as an owner driver than an employed one especially if you ended up with a guvnor like bewick and put on one of those GM heaps or a Gardner powered one.![]()
By the way check out the comments from modern day 60 series fans who don’t seem to have a clue that the motor that they’re looking at is a 14 Litre V12 with around 500 horses but unlike the 60 series it has’nt got a turbocharger.So what would the 60 series do without a turbo and what would be the fuel consumption of two 240 Gardners fitted in one truck and what would be the the weight?.
youtube.com/watch?v=R1FnUfPP … re=related
youtube.com/watch?v=LoTtpxfq … re=relatedHey Carryfast you saying I was a bad Guvnor ■■ I’ll have you know we always had a loyal long serving set of drivers !! the only ones that didn’t last were probably the ones with your attitude to work !! and believe me we soon sorted out those that didn’t make the grade !! We also never had any complaints about the type or quality of our fleet and finally Carryfast I always had good relations with the T&G union as in their books we were classed as good employers !! So there my son pick the bones out of that . Cheers Bewick.
No bewick it’s just that there’s probably no such thing as good guvnor that’s why they need unions in the first place.
So are you saying that you would have given all of your drivers the choice between a Gardner powered British heap or a decent big power Scandinavian,Euro,or yank type used by many owner drivers or all those drivers who were lucky enough to work for firms where their guvnors were the exceptions which proved the rule?
As usual Carryfast you are talking B******s !! No properly managed outfit can give the drivers “carte blanch” to choose their own motor !( the mind boggles as to how you can make the suggestion in the first place ) If the course of action you propose was followed you would have firms trying to run every type of motor under the sun !! All that would be achieved would be dozens of firms going out of business every week !! Just imagine if I’d have had a dozen Carryfast’s on the team all wanting and been given god knows what kind of exotic spec of American truck !!! I think I would end up climbing over the fence and putting my head on the Railway line !! You never cease to amaze Carryfast !! Keep taking the tablets !! you may vary the dose from time to time !! Cheers Bewick.
It’s your type of thinking which wrecked the British truck manufacturing industry and gave it to the foreign manufacturers instead.
OK Carryfast you cretin if you can only respond with one line of verbal diorrea I think us sensible ex hauliers/drivers have obviously won the argument !!! I can tell you that the last UK built tractors that joined our fleet were 2 Sed Atk 401in 1984 and yes my old son they were 8LXB 265s/Fuller/Rockwell !! We did try to continue to buy UK built tractors but I will admitt that Gardners did lose their way as did the fuel consumption on ■■■■■■■ , Rolls Royce ( in my opinion ) were bags of S**t so never ever figured in our requirements !! There now Carryfast I’ve 'fessed up so how about you owning up to being the only man in the regiment that is marching in time — go on nobody will ridicule you for accepting that you are 100% wrong about DDs go on admitt it !!! Bewick.
No because the only thing I liked (almost) as much as a Detroit powered beasty was a DAF powered by a turbocharged Leyland engine which was put in a motor which most guvnors thought was too good for new drivers like me except for the firm which I was lucky enough to get started on.But guess what happened in the years which followed?.They decided to have a mixed fleet of mostly lesser,so called more economical,less powerful,wagons and guess who got first choice and which ones the older senior drivers wanted?.
Hello Carryfast look when you are young and wet behind the ears ( which you still are ) you can’t expect to jump in front of the older reliable drivers can you ? I would have put you put you on a Transit flat or similar ( You could have kitted it out like a 38 tonner – we would have allowed you !!) I would have loved to have seen you parked up amongs’t our artics at a Truck Stop boy would you have got some Wellie off some of our Star men !! Good night and God Bless my little fella Bewick.
But hold on bewick you’ve been trying to make the case that it should be the gutless,so called economical wagons which are/were the lifeblood of the British road transport industry but when it comes down to the choice it’s those so called reliable senior drivers who get the most thirsty overpowered motors on the fleet which end up breaking the firm and then put the new drivers with the transits out of work.
Carryfast:
Dave the Renegade:
yappie:
dennis it was 8LXC 265 COME ON BOSS !!! i know you are losing the will to live but dont let carryfast grind you down with his slaver!!![]()
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Hi yappie,
Keep your head down mate,its a bit like the OK corral on this thread,you don’t know when the gunfights going to start.![]()
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Cheers Dave.But just like Wyatt Earp I’m using a shot gun instead of a Colt revolver
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Yea Carryfast but I’ll be down behind the 8LXB/C its a bigger lump than a DD Cheers Bewick.
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
3300John:
A bit on GM twostrokesHow about this for a bit of classic American trucking history? Yes it’s a GMC ‘Crackerbox’ and I am most grateful to ‘Crackerbox Jimmie’ who originally sent me this e-mail saying: “I drove two ‘Crackerboxes’ in the late 60s, a '61 and then a '64. The '61 had a V6 Detroit Diesel, rated as I remember at 218hp, pushing a single screw through a five-speed Eaton with a two-speed axle. The '64 has a 238hp Detroit, single screw with a ten-speed Fuller Roadranger. These trucks were very basic, with a narrow bunk, wider at the passenger end of the cab. Leg room was extremely limited and instumentation was mimimal. no aircon and heaters were weak. The '61 was a piece of junk, nothing but trouble with it. The '64 was a good truck for its day. The 238 was a strong engine and I hauled household goods all over the eastern US, west to Colorado and New Mexico.” Well BLB naturally asked Jimmie if he had any shots of his trucks and he’s come back with this absolute ‘cracker!’ for which I am most grateful. Now click through for more from the man himself…
This is on Big lorry Blog
John3300 John
It looks like he could’nt find a decent firm to work for running something like this instead.Or it just proves again that it does’nt matter where you are in the world or when it’s better to work as an owner driver than an employed one especially if you ended up with a guvnor like bewick and put on one of those GM heaps or a Gardner powered one.![]()
By the way check out the comments from modern day 60 series fans who don’t seem to have a clue that the motor that they’re looking at is a 14 Litre V12 with around 500 horses but unlike the 60 series it has’nt got a turbocharger.So what would the 60 series do without a turbo and what would be the fuel consumption of two 240 Gardners fitted in one truck and what would be the the weight?.
youtube.com/watch?v=R1FnUfPP … re=related
youtube.com/watch?v=LoTtpxfq … re=relatedHey Carryfast you saying I was a bad Guvnor ■■ I’ll have you know we always had a loyal long serving set of drivers !! the only ones that didn’t last were probably the ones with your attitude to work !! and believe me we soon sorted out those that didn’t make the grade !! We also never had any complaints about the type or quality of our fleet and finally Carryfast I always had good relations with the T&G union as in their books we were classed as good employers !! So there my son pick the bones out of that . Cheers Bewick.
No bewick it’s just that there’s probably no such thing as good guvnor that’s why they need unions in the first place.
So are you saying that you would have given all of your drivers the choice between a Gardner powered British heap or a decent big power Scandinavian,Euro,or yank type used by many owner drivers or all those drivers who were lucky enough to work for firms where their guvnors were the exceptions which proved the rule?
As usual Carryfast you are talking B******s !! No properly managed outfit can give the drivers “carte blanch” to choose their own motor !( the mind boggles as to how you can make the suggestion in the first place ) If the course of action you propose was followed you would have firms trying to run every type of motor under the sun !! All that would be achieved would be dozens of firms going out of business every week !! Just imagine if I’d have had a dozen Carryfast’s on the team all wanting and been given god knows what kind of exotic spec of American truck !!! I think I would end up climbing over the fence and putting my head on the Railway line !! You never cease to amaze Carryfast !! Keep taking the tablets !! you may vary the dose from time to time !! Cheers Bewick.
It’s your type of thinking which wrecked the British truck manufacturing industry and gave it to the foreign manufacturers instead.
OK Carryfast you cretin if you can only respond with one line of verbal diorrea I think us sensible ex hauliers/drivers have obviously won the argument !!! I can tell you that the last UK built tractors that joined our fleet were 2 Sed Atk 401in 1984 and yes my old son they were 8LXB 265s/Fuller/Rockwell !! We did try to continue to buy UK built tractors but I will admitt that Gardners did lose their way as did the fuel consumption on ■■■■■■■ , Rolls Royce ( in my opinion ) were bags of S**t so never ever figured in our requirements !! There now Carryfast I’ve 'fessed up so how about you owning up to being the only man in the regiment that is marching in time — go on nobody will ridicule you for accepting that you are 100% wrong about DDs go on admitt it !!! Bewick.
No because the only thing I liked (almost) as much as a Detroit powered beasty was a DAF powered by a turbocharged Leyland engine which was put in a motor which most guvnors thought was too good for new drivers like me except for the firm which I was lucky enough to get started on.But guess what happened in the years which followed?.They decided to have a mixed fleet of mostly lesser,so called more economical,less powerful,wagons and guess who got first choice and which ones the older senior drivers wanted?.
Hello Carryfast look when you are young and wet behind the ears ( which you still are ) you can’t expect to jump in front of the older reliable drivers can you ? I would have put you put you on a Transit flat or similar ( You could have kitted it out like a 38 tonner – we would have allowed you !!) I would have loved to have seen you parked up amongs’t our artics at a Truck Stop boy would you have got some Wellie off some of our Star men !! Good night and God Bless my little fella Bewick.
But hold on bewick you’ve been trying to make the case that it should be the gutless,so called economical wagons which are/were the lifeblood of the British road transport industry but when it comes down to the choice it’s those so called reliable senior drivers who get the most thirsty overpowered motors on the fleet which end up breaking the firm and then put the new drivers with the transits out of work.
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Shows how out of touch you are Carryfast ! if you did but understand it was the experienced drivers who could be trusted !! I couldn’t even contemplate putting a "cab happy youth " such as you no doubt were and still probably are I think onto a premium tractor. Unless of course I had suicidal tendancies where the firm was concerned !! PS isn’t it past your bedtime by now ? Bewick.
Dave the Renegade:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
3300John:
A bit on GM twostrokesHi Dennis,
Not wishing to start a big debate,the Tilcon drivers at the Gore Quarry here had several Fodens with 265 Rolls in them,and Woody if he comes on will confirm this,they would pull like hell,and those blokes gave them some clog,it was only when Clarence Griffiths bought a new Foden eight legger with a 300 cat that any eight legger around this way could keep with them.
Cheers Dave.
Hi Dave, and Dennis! Off topic I know but we had around 30+ eight leggers with either 265 L’s or Li’s. The one in my avatar I had new in May 1986 and was then given another new motor in November 1996, in those ten years it never had an injector changed or any other work done on the engine apart from a couple of compressors under warranty. When new it ran at 2100 rpm but Fodens cut it down to 1900 rpm when it had the compressor done, fuel consumption was pretty good for saying the area we worked in. Towards the end we were running tarmac from Ashbourne, Derby’s to St Clears which was a full ten hours (plus!) driving and I had to take 5 gallon of fuel with me in the cab plus a gallon of engine oil! The old gal never let me down though, best truck that I ever had. It was sold to an O/D who re engined it and ran it for a few more years.
Pete.
3300John:
Hiya I’ve just seen this on the night heater site.It relates to DD two strokes. FUEL IS SO CHEAP OVER IN THE STATES NOBODY CARES ABOUT LEAVING THERE
ENGINE RUNNING(500hp)ALL NIGHT TO KEEP WARM.dose that mean diesel is not £5.17p per gallon in dd country.
Re: Nightheaters.
by newmercman » Sun Jan 24, 2010In Canada & the Northern States it is, it gets too cold in the winter to turn the thing off, some trucks have night heaters & an engine block heater but even those are no good when it gets below -20c, the batteries can’t take it.
Fuel has been so cheap over there until recently that nobody cared about it, it’s the same in the summer, everyone runs the truck with the A/C on to keep
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cool, you should hear the noise in a truckstop at night.orld countries.
John
Bit of a bodge on the quoting there mate, also as the author of that I don’t recall any mention of Detroit Diesels, my Peterbilt has a CAT engine, which, by the way, has done 750000miles since January 05, as well as that the lifetime idle time of this particular truck (that’s what they call lorries over there ) is over 30%, that’s a hell of a lot of revolutions & let me tell you running from Western Canada to the East Coast of the USA is not easy work either, in August of last year I did a trip from Houston Texas to Calgary Alberta, in Texas I saw it get as hot as 48c, in November I did the same run & the needle had dropped nearly 90degrees, in Alberta it was -42c, you can’t turn your engine off in 43c or you will fry, in -42c if you turn it off for 5mins you’ll be lucky if it starts again, the oil will turn to grease, the batteries will not have enough in them to turn the engine over & you’re in serious trouble, that’s cold enough to kill you in a short time.
But to actually give this post some DD input as the quoter said, my company only runs CATs because Peterbilt no longer offer the Detroit Diesel engines, we have 15 or more peterbilts with the Detroit & everyone of them has covered over a million miles without major engine work, their idle times are similar to mine, so when all’s said & done, they ain’t a bad bit of plant are they
Carryfast, I am pleased to see that you at last seem to agree with me that DD two strokes are supercharged, and I have to agree with you that the V12 in your youtube links is going very well, but just think how much better it would go if it only had one diff to turn.
I know one thing for certain, Guy definitely didn’t put a 12V71 in the Big J.
acd1202:
Carryfast, I am pleased to see that you at last seem to agree with me that DD two strokes are supercharged, and I have to agree with you that the V12 in your youtube links is going very well, but just think how much better it would go if it only had one diff to turn.I know one thing for certain, Guy definitely didn’t put a 12V71 in the Big J.
Carryfast:
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Forgive my igronance ive heard of two stroke trucks but way before my time. Do you have to mix oil in the fuel like a two stroke mortorbike.il take that as a no. But theres no need to try and ridicule me im not a mechanic and as ive only been driving for 10 years ive never come across a two stroke truck. Although when i first passed my test i briefly drove a e reg foden tipper with a 300 gardner must have have been one of the last of them. It was ok but i found the revs died a lot slower than the cat and ■■■■■■■ powered ones i have driven which didnt realy suit the fuller gearbox
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Exactly that’s one of the old fashioned characteristics of the typical British heap and it can reach the stage where you’re caught between gears with an engine on the guvnor in one gear but it’ll come to a grinding halt on a hill before the revs fall enough for the next gear and it was one of the advantages of the Detroit that it can lose revs as fast as a fuller can shift and makes the ■■■■■■■ look like a Gardner in most respects.
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But I was’nt a mechanic either at 16 but I had enough interest in the job to find out as much as I could about it but that was never good enough for guvnors like bewick.
im not here trying to say the british trucks were best. The only brits i have driven were a foden 4000 leyland constructor and an erf ec10 they done the job but were 10 years behind the scania volvo mercs etc i have driven. I do take an intrest in trucks and there technology i read the truck magazines and use the net for resarch. I know erf fitted some detroit engines in the 90s but have never been round one and im unlikley to move to the usa or get a job driving a bedford tm so have never had the need to look in to two stroke trucks. You moan you never got the breaks doing the best jobs driving the best trucks when you started. I passed my test at 21 the only job i could get was driving a tipper for a cowboy after six months i got offered a tipper job by a good company who we subbed work from but starting at the bottom with an older truck and not getting the best work. I kept my head down and got a better truck then was given a chance on an artic doing bulk rubbish for that firm and had a new scania artic at 24. After 4 years i finished when my boss retired and started on another firm doing the same work and was given a new man which im still driving. So i resent someone trying to belittle me because i ask a question.
Yes ERF did offer a DD at one time, but I believe only one was ever sold which was supposed to be a good but not exceptional performer, and later had to be re-engined after blowing up, and Carryfast, can’t change gear behind a Gardner, dear oh dear! you young un’s should’nt play with proper tackle…Tony.
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Forgive my igronance ive heard of two stroke trucks but way before my time. Do you have to mix oil in the fuel like a two stroke mortorbike.il take that as a no. But theres no need to try and ridicule me im not a mechanic and as ive only been driving for 10 years ive never come across a two stroke truck. Although when i first passed my test i briefly drove a e reg foden tipper with a 300 gardner must have have been one of the last of them. It was ok but i found the revs died a lot slower than the cat and ■■■■■■■ powered ones i have driven which didnt realy suit the fuller gearbox
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Exactly that’s one of the old fashioned characteristics of the typical British heap and it can reach the stage where you’re caught between gears with an engine on the guvnor in one gear but it’ll come to a grinding halt on a hill before the revs fall enough for the next gear and it was one of the advantages of the Detroit that it can lose revs as fast as a fuller can shift and makes the ■■■■■■■ look like a Gardner in most respects.
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But I was’nt a mechanic either at 16 but I had enough interest in the job to find out as much as I could about it but that was never good enough for guvnors like bewick.
im not here trying to say the british trucks were best. The only brits i have driven were a foden 4000 leyland constructor and an erf ec10 they done the job but were 10 years behind the scania volvo mercs etc i have driven. I do take an intrest in trucks and there technology i read the truck magazines and use the net for resarch. I know erf fitted some detroit engines in the 90s but have never been round one and im unlikley to move to the usa or get a job driving a bedford tm so have never had the need to look in to two stroke trucks. You moan you never got the breaks doing the best jobs driving the best trucks when you started. I passed my test at 21 the only job i could get was driving a tipper for a cowboy after six months i got offered a tipper job by a good company who we subbed work from but starting at the bottom with an older truck and not getting the best work. I kept my head down and got a better truck then was given a chance on an artic doing bulk rubbish for that firm and had a new scania artic at 24. After 4 years i finished when my boss retired and started on another firm doing the same work and was given a new man which im still driving. So i resent someone trying to belittle me because i ask a question.
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Forgive my igronance ive heard of two stroke trucks but way before my time. Do you have to mix oil in the fuel like a two stroke mortorbike.il take that as a no. But theres no need to try and ridicule me im not a mechanic and as ive only been driving for 10 years ive never come across a two stroke truck. Although when i first passed my test i briefly drove a e reg foden tipper with a 300 gardner must have have been one of the last of them. It was ok but i found the revs died a lot slower than the cat and ■■■■■■■ powered ones i have driven which didnt realy suit the fuller gearbox
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Exactly that’s one of the old fashioned characteristics of the typical British heap and it can reach the stage where you’re caught between gears with an engine on the guvnor in one gear but it’ll come to a grinding halt on a hill before the revs fall enough for the next gear and it was one of the advantages of the Detroit that it can lose revs as fast as a fuller can shift and makes the ■■■■■■■ look like a Gardner in most respects.
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But I was’nt a mechanic either at 16 but I had enough interest in the job to find out as much as I could about it but that was never good enough for guvnors like bewick.
im not here trying to say the british trucks were best. The only brits i have driven were a foden 4000 leyland constructor and an erf ec10 they done the job but were 10 years behind the scania volvo mercs etc i have driven. I do take an intrest in trucks and there technology i read the truck magazines and use the net for resarch. I know erf fitted some detroit engines in the 90s but have never been round one and im unlikley to move to the usa or get a job driving a bedford tm so have never had the need to look in to two stroke trucks. You moan you never got the breaks doing the best jobs driving the best trucks when you started. I passed my test at 21 the only job i could get was driving a tipper for a cowboy after six months i got offered a tipper job by a good company who we subbed work from but starting at the bottom with an older truck and not getting the best work. I kept my head down and got a better truck then was given a chance on an artic doing bulk rubbish for that firm and had a new scania artic at 24. After 4 years i finished when my boss retired and started on another firm doing the same work and was given a new man which im still driving. So i resent someone trying to belittle me because i ask a question.
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Forgive my igronance ive heard of two stroke trucks but way before my time. Do you have to mix oil in the fuel like a two stroke mortorbike.il take that as a no. But theres no need to try and ridicule me im not a mechanic and as ive only been driving for 10 years ive never come across a two stroke truck. Although when i first passed my test i briefly drove a e reg foden tipper with a 300 gardner must have have been one of the last of them. It was ok but i found the revs died a lot slower than the cat and ■■■■■■■ powered ones i have driven which didnt realy suit the fuller gearbox
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Exactly that’s one of the old fashioned characteristics of the typical British heap and it can reach the stage where you’re caught between gears with an engine on the guvnor in one gear but it’ll come to a grinding halt on a hill before the revs fall enough for the next gear and it was one of the advantages of the Detroit that it can lose revs as fast as a fuller can shift and makes the ■■■■■■■ look like a Gardner in most respects.
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But I was’nt a mechanic either at 16 but I had enough interest in the job to find out as much as I could about it but that was never good enough for guvnors like bewick.
im not here trying to say the british trucks were best. The only brits i have driven were a foden 4000 leyland constructor and an erf ec10 they done the job but were 10 years behind the scania volvo mercs etc i have driven. I do take an intrest in trucks and there technology i read the truck magazines and use the net for resarch. I know erf fitted some detroit engines in the 90s but have never been round one and im unlikley to move to the usa or get a job driving a bedford tm so have never had the need to look in to two stroke trucks. You moan you never got the breaks doing the best jobs driving the best trucks when you started. I passed my test at 21 the only job i could get was driving a tipper for a cowboy after six months i got offered a tipper job by a good company who we subbed work from but starting at the bottom with an older truck and not getting the best work. I kept my head down and got a better truck then was given a chance on an artic doing bulk rubbish for that firm and had a new scania artic at 24. After 4 years i finished when my boss retired and started on another firm doing the same work and was given a new man which im still driving. So i resent someone trying to belittle me because i ask a question.
Look Carryfast I was only ever a “Bad Guvnor” in the eyes of "Bad Drivers !! Good drivers never had anything to fear from me and there will be plenty of them up and down the country who I believe would agree with me !!We never had many bad drivers as we could usually sus the bad apples out before we started them !! I wonder what we might have made of your B******t if we could turn the clock back !! No doubt you would have interviewed me and our manager and not the other way round !!! Cheers Bewick.
Suttons Tony:
Carryfast, can’t change gear behind a Gardner, dear oh dear! you young un’s should’nt play with proper tackle…Tony.
He’s probably trying to use the clutch