21yo grandson wants to follow in granpa’s boots and be a driver. What will (1 week ?) course cost, medical, cpc. how do we get someone else to pay for it?
Going from car to cat C and onto CE will cost around £3K-£4K.
My standard advice would be keep well away and to spend the money on whiskey and Whores, then at least he’ll have something to show for the money
Optimum:
21yo grandson wants to follow in granpa’s boots and be a driver. What will (1 week ?) course cost, medical, cpc. how do we get someone else to pay for it?
Seriously?
Would you want to go into it today after all your experience, I’m ■■■■ ed if I would.
He can do a lot better investing his/your money into something as a better career move than this over regulated, excessive hours underpaid crock of sh.
Tell him to go on a plumbers course, or get his tickets on road machines or something.
So he wants to have no life outside of work on any day he works and be so knackered on a weekend he’ll want to do nowt, suffer issues from lack of sleep and a wide range of muscular and skeletal problems from all the hammer you give your body and from being sat on your arse 8+hrs a day and should he already have or in the future have kids miss out on them growing up assuming that you manage to live that long doing one of the 10 most dangerous jobs in the UK?
My lad followed in my footsteps, really wish he’d done something else. He’s a tramper and is missing out on everything with the kids, his back is already showing problems and he’s not even 30 yet.
These drivers who have nothing but disdain for the modern job arn’t rushing out to find an alternative for themselves, one notes.
There’s decent jobs still to be found within the industry, location as with many industries plays its part in whats to be had, ie you don’t find many oil rigs just outside the north circular with besuited riggers commuting on the bus to and from work, and you won’t find the best paying truck jobs for reasonable hours in more remote parts of the country.
The lad may have to accept what he’s offered to get some miles under his belt, as most of have done, but if he avoids the hire and reward and agency sectors once he’s skilled up then no reason why he can’t have a decent work life balance.
Juddian:
These drivers who have nothing but disdain for the modern job arn’t rushing out to find an alternative for themselves, one notes.There’s decent jobs still to be found within the industry .
C’mon Juddian mate, you know the score…That was my whole point.
Sure I ain’t looking for another type of job,.I’ve managed to find something that suits me, despite the type of firm I work for, but I try and counteract that aspect of the job by being on the ball, fielding all the b/s and by achieving being left alone on the actual operation of my job because they know that I know what I’m doing…ie experience. 
So how will a young lad, green as grass, going to cope with all the arse wipes and d/heads who run the job today with.all the b/s they chuck at him.
In yours and my day we were just left to get on with it, they could not contact you, nowadays not only are they 2 seconds away from ■■■■ ing up your day,.they know exactly to the nearest metre wher you are ffs !
So Juddian knowing what you know and have learned over the years, if you were a fresh faced 21 yr old, lamb to the slaughter and shark bait, how keen would you be to get into it. …and more importantly would you sit back and watch your grandson go into it?
■■■■ ed if I would mate,.the world is his lobster Terry my son 
…so why go into all this?
And don’t forget about being micro managed,camera in cabs. Fault blaming.
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Can’t really think why any youngster would want to become a trucker, but each to their own.The new hierarchy of the roads should tell anyone we are at the bottom of the crap heap and there to stay.
Unless you get with a very good company and are treat like a human being rather than something that the planner just stood in then I would definitely seek a different career.
The nonsenses in this industry are well documented but the CPC comes out as the clear winner. If you don’t mind being treated like a school kid once again and think it’s a valid and enhancing use of your time to make you a truly professional driver when all you have to do is…turn up, then go for it.
Optimum:
21yo grandson wants to follow in granpa’s boots and be a driver. What will (1 week ?) course cost, medical, cpc. how do we get someone else to pay for it?
Check the New and Wannabe Drivers Loads of info there.
Colingl:
Optimum:
21yo grandson wants to follow in granpa’s boots and be a driver. What will (1 week ?) course cost, medical, cpc. how do we get someone else to pay for it?Check the New and Wannabe Drivers Loads of info there.
Rather than checking out with a load of arsey grumpy old ■■■■ s who know the score and see the job for what it is eh? 
It would put anybody off…Good point.
Tesco “warehouse to wheels” but he’ll need to work in a Tesco store/DC first and not sure how long before can apply for
“W to Ws”.
You can earn a decent living driving trucks for Tesco,
Great T&Cs/great pension/share discounts etc and NOT mega stupid hours.
The 15% store discount card (10% other times) on the pay-day weekend would be nice to enjoy for the “beer tokens” alone!!!
Job for life too.
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robroy:
Juddian:
So Juddian knowing what you know and have learned over the years, if you were a fresh faced 21 yr old, lamb to the slaughter and shark bait, how keen would you be to get into it.
[zb] ed if I would mate,.the world is his lobster Terry my son
Yes i would encourage him, but i’d guide him as to what sectors to avoid and teach him how to make himself as indispensible as possible…however i’d suggest to him to get a job driving vans or small lorries long distance first (like many of us did) where he’ll find out if its the job for him before ■■■■■■■ lots of wonga up the wall.
Lots of alternative careers are going to be automated or AI’d out of existence, lorry driving particularly specialist stuff isn’t going anywhere despite the self driving ■■■■■■■■ we keep hearing, its also something you can do right up to and past retirement age and where the better sectors of the industry itself do their best to keep the worthwhile drivers happy.
Where else can you earn nearly £50k for confortably under a 50 hour week sitting on your arse in air conditioned comfort watching the world go by…ok the scenery benefits of the job aint what they used to be ie the fair maidens now look like blokes but you can’t have it all 
Big Truck:
Tesco “warehouse to wheels” but he’ll need to work in a Tesco store/DC first and not sure how long before can apply for
“W to Ws”.You can earn a decent living driving trucks for Tesco,
Great T&Cs/great pension/share discounts etc and NOT mega stupid hours.
The 15% store discount card (10% other times) on the pay-day weekend would be nice to enjoy for the “beer tokens” alone!!!
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Job for life , tell them who were at balborough , Harlow , Doncaster , Middleton , middlewich etc , never mind the stores they’ve shut ,it’s a laughable statement
Juddian:
robroy:
Juddian:
So Juddian knowing what you know and have learned over the years, if you were a fresh faced 21 yr old, lamb to the slaughter and shark bait, how keen would you be to get into it.
[zb] ed if I would mate,.the world is his lobster Terry my sonYes i would encourage him, but i’d guide him as to what sectors to avoid and teach him how to make himself as indispensible as possible…however i’d suggest to him to get a job driving vans or small lorries long distance first (like many of us did) where he’ll find out if its the job for him before ■■■■■■■ lots of wonga up the wall.
Lots of alternative careers are going to be automated or AI’d out of existence, lorry driving particularly specialist stuff isn’t going anywhere despite the self driving ■■■■■■■■ we keep hearing, its also something you can do right up to and past retirement age and where the better sectors of the industry itself do their best to keep the worthwhile drivers happy.
Where else can you earn nearly £50k for confortably under a 50 hour week sitting on your arse in air conditioned comfort watching the world go by…ok the scenery benefits of the job aint what they used to be ie the fair maidens now look like blokes but you can’t have it all
Ok so we’ll.agree to disagree.
I’m proud of the fact that I talked both my lads out of it after them being attracted to it after coming with me all over the UK and Europe as kids, they both have far better jobs than me, on more money for less hours,.so that was a result.
As for my little Grandson, I’ll do the same with him…anyhoo I’ve got plans for his future, Newcastle’s future no 9. 
I done it now for over 30 years and still enjoy it. Call me a sado but after a couple of days off I’m ready to get back to work.
As said you can have a work-home life balance just avoid general haulage and tramping, but it of course where you live. If as juddian said you come from rural parts it be difficult to find decent paid day work but midlands shouldn’t be a problem.
Yes you going to be mico managed and h&s overload but what industry isn’t? Far better than having to crawl all over the load roping and sheeting in the pouring rain like the good old days 
As for bad backs and stuff Connor on about, there are plenty of industries you get that, I broke mine falling off a straw stack, you can bugger your spine up sitting all-day infront of a pc.
Can’t help with advice about costs but if its his dream go for it. I glad I did and would I do it again yes.
Optimum:
21yo grandson wants to follow in granpa’s boots and be a driver. What will (1 week ?) course cost, medical, cpc. how do we get someone else to pay for it?
Tell him to research the psychometric tests and become a train driver. That’s where the money is.
Here we go again…
Bring out the violins…
Poor, poor hard done by truckers…
Most of you would not last 5 minutes in any other job. Try working in a warehouse or factory. Not only constantly monitored, but your supervisor is stood right behind you. All the time.
You are told when you must take a break, not take it where and when you want.
You get queried why, and how long you use the toilet.
You work, actually physically work, for 8 or 11 hours, not sit on your behind, or lay in your bunk.
You are constantly surrounded by colleagues, and have to listen to whatever crap radio station they pipe through the P.A.system…
I’m not even starting about rolling shifts or zero hour contracts.
If you are “forced” to work 80 hours a week, being micro managed, and hate the job so much, that’s YOUR fault. Deal with it.
As for bad backs and stuff Connor on about, there are plenty of industries you get that,
I ruined my back 30 years ago on a tarmac co. My job was to load the 16 ton of tarmac, shot on the floor, into wheelbarrows with a shovel.
the nodding donkey:
Here we go again…Bring out the violins…
Poor, poor hard done by truckers…
Most of you would not last 5 minutes in any other job. Try working in a warehouse or factory. Not only constantly monitored, but your supervisor is stood right behind you. All the time.
You are told when you must take a break, not take it where and when you want.
You get queried why, and how long you use the toilet.
You work, actually physically work, for 8 or 11 hours, not sit on your behind, or lay in your bunk.
You are constantly surrounded by colleagues, and have to listen to whatever crap radio station they pipe through the P.A.system…I’m not even starting about rolling shifts or zero hour contracts.
If you are “forced” to work 80 hours a week, being micro managed, and hate the job so much, that’s YOUR fault. Deal with it.
You’re dead right about warehouses and factories but nobody mentioned them except you. 
You obviously have a decent job you are content with, as I have, but on the whole I think we are maybe in a minority, or to put it another way MOST run of the mill mundane jobs in most industries, but especially this one, are crap, with all the things you list.
As for your last paragraph, …
First point…I ain’t.
Second point…I ain’t…
Third point…I don’t (as I said)
Fourth point…I do.
But that was my point, the advice is coming off seasoned long time drivers,.who can usually run rings around the perpetrators of such crap.
Most experienced drivers with a brain and a bit of nous refuse to be treated as such,.(or at least go a long with it in their own way, and mostly run rings around em) where as a wet behind the ears new kid sure as hell will be.treated as such in most of todays industry like a bambi among lions. .
Hence I would not want my kids/grandkids doing it as the o/p asked.
But rather get a decent trade with much more money and far better T:s and C s… as my own 2 boys got
Or as I said road machine tickets, train driver, fire service,.forces …even the Old Bill ffs !. 
Hope that explains ND me old mate.
robroy:
Optimum:
21yo grandson wants to follow in granpa’s boots and be a driver. What will (1 week ?) course cost, medical, cpc. how do we get someone else to pay for it?Seriously?
Would you want to go into it today after all your experience, I’m [zb] ed if I would.
He can do a lot better investing his/your money into something as a better career move than this over regulated, excessive hours underpaid crock of sh.
Tell him to go on a plumbers course, or get his tickets on road machines or something.
Conor:
So he wants to have no life outside of work on any day he works and be so knackered on a weekend he’ll want to do nowt, suffer issues from lack of sleep and a wide range of muscular and skeletal problems from all the hammer you give your body and from being sat on your arse 8+hrs a day and should he already have or in the future have kids miss out on them growing up assuming that you manage to live that long doing one of the 10 most dangerous jobs in the UK?My lad followed in my footsteps, really wish he’d done something else. He’s a tramper and is missing out on everything with the kids, his back is already showing problems and he’s not even 30 yet.
peirre:
Going from car to cat C and onto CE will cost around £3K-£4K.
My standard advice would be keep well away and to spend the money on whiskey and Whores, then at least he’ll have something to show for the money
^^^This^^^
Listen to wisdom. Alternatives migth not be rosier, but don’t fool yourself, this is often a place where you “end up”, not a good first choice
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