andrew.s:
IndigoJo:
F-reds:
I wouldn’t bother Bobbya quite simply because 50% will be total turd, such as you can’t unzip your fly without PPE. A further 45% would be stuff that Nathan as an experienced plant operator will pick up quickly. The last 5%? Well perhaps he could be a bit proactive and find a local trainer that does an “experienced HIAB” day course and get 7 hours dCPC in as well…
Although the course isn’t a legal requirement to operate grabs, it’s an insurance requirement which is why his boss is offering it. You also need to learn how to operate the levers or remote control, as well as the safety necessities. And if the truck is changing to a grab, he’ll need to learn how to use it or find another job.
as F-reds says above,nathan will be fine as he is a plant op. takes a bit of getting used to though-its quite funny when I let a machine driver have a go on my grab!!
and all the ■■■■■■■■ about pulling the legs right out blah blah-I only pull the leg out(only on the side i’m lifting from) and put a pad under if I’m on unmade ground or a footpath(or someones driveway lol),if youre grabbing from the road you’ll be fine.
I drove grabs for years never pulled the legs out.
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the new epsilon grabs have fixed legs that don’t pull out at all -but you have to extend them right down to get the crane to work ffs.my 2011 model would lift 30 percent less if the leg wasn’t pulled right out(soon disabled that sensor 
).they want to make their bloody minds up lol
I cant stand all the “safety” nonsense -some of the sensors make it bloody hard to use and less safe in my opinion.first thing I do is disable them when I get a new motor.
Anyone have an on board weigher on their grab? Wondered do they have the bodies raised like normal, or do they weigh with the body down? Weighing with body up would be a PITA surely?
andrew.s:
the new epsilon grabs have fixed legs that don’t pull out at all -but you have to extend them right down to get the crane to work ffs.my 2011 model would lift 30 percent less if the leg wasn’t pulled right out(soon disabled that sensor ).they want to make their bloody minds up lol
I cant stand all the “safety” nonsense -some of the sensors make it bloody hard to use and less safe in my opinion.first thing I do is disable them when I get a new motor.
Agreed! Forget all the forcefields etc, that’s what a yearly test is for!
I’m not surprised they fixed them, who has ever managed to turn a truck over using a grab bucket■■? 
Bad one with sticking cables disconected them on mine so if carnt get to where i can get at the load it stays where it is. If your just starting on grabs working off your cabel levers is not fun. Just got mine back today having had 110% test done first things i did disconect all the sensors other than raised alarm and overload sensor. Having worked for hire company renting grabs understand the reasons for all
the alarms drivers bringing boom down there heads trying to work over the cab and crushing that too %@@$ing dicks.
We have a few with weighers some you have to lift the body but we have some that give all axel weights too but very rare to get asked to see the weight on.
Most the people we work for no the crack and no what a load is and pay up no worrrys, but you get some that think if theres space in the body and its not piled up over the sides you can take more and have no concept of weights. So if they funny over paying the body just goes up where the truck is. The look on their face is priceless. Love working on grabs get to meet great people who you look after them they take care of you and they moneys way better than most other driving jobs.
Not had anybody complain re how much we take yet, the beauty of a 6w grab is that many of our customers are small builders and landscape gardeners who might only have a skipfull of muck to send away. We did think of putting an extra floor or plate in the bottom of the body to make it shallower but then we’d lose payload.
Our landlord (farmer) has a weighbridge a stones’ throw away from us so we check weights on that if needs be. If I want to load say 12t of type 1 it’s 6 bucketfulls with our JCB and it’s not far out. Last time I was 20kg underweight. 
Anyone have any problems with having an easysheet on a grab? Ours hasn’t got one but now all the quarries we collect from have sheeting rules, hence we rely on the 8w for stock work. Do they get in the way? Ours (the grab) has the tapered half headboard so would a retro fitted sheet cause any problems?
Also, anyone have a weighloader on one? Are these the normal “lift the body off the floor” type or are they axle load cells?