theres a firm near me that pays there class 1 drivers £6.35 an hour
some of the drivers have been there for years as well {15+}
so i would say £9 or so is very good
chaversdad:
theres a firm near me that pays there class 1 drivers £6.35 an hour
some of the drivers have been there for years as well {15+}
so i would say £9 or so is very good
Begs the question WTF for■■? Any firm that pays class 1 that rate are a bunch of utter ■■■■■…
And the drivers that tolerate it aren’t much better… 
Maybe they have an extremely good bonus scheme 
do yourself a favour get your class 1 then you get
SOC Code:8211
Wage£600 Per DayHours5 or 6 days from 7
LocationROCHESTER, Kent ME1
DurationPermanent
Date posted19 July 2012
Closing date16 September 2012
Pension detailsNo details held
Description
Previous experience and knowledge of building materials is an advantage. Must have knowledge of local area especially the West London. Must have a full, clean relevant licence, and be able to use ratchet straps. Your duties will be to carry out multi-drop deliveries of various products. Must have a digital taco card. Please call now.
How to apply
You can apply for this job by telephoning 020 85089555 and asking for Paul Davis.
Employer
Paradigm Services Ltd
dar1976:
Maybe they have an extremely good bonus scheme
It would have to be to make working for ■■■■ like that worthwhile!! 
chaversdad:
theres a firm near me that pays there class 1 drivers £6.35 an hour
some of the drivers have been there for years as well {15+}
so i would say £9 or so is very good
Another firm in Middlesborough pays £6.30 per hour for the first 50 hours.
I guess that those out there that wont get out of bed for less than £15 per hour dont live on Teesside.
limeyphil:
it’s an hourly rate. so it’s demeaning.
any company that offers hourly pay don’t respect their staff.
Nor do staff (drivers) tend to respect the co. There will be a tendency to drag the job out as long as possible.
I guarantee that if you had 2 haulage co’s, both same kit, same size fleet, doing the same work. Co. 1 pays hourly, Co.2 pays day rate + bonus scheme. (Can be on loads moved, truck earnings, co. profit, whatever) that Co.2 will move a lot more loads in a year & make more profit than Co.1.
OP that is a very good rate for C2 let alone a newbie, grab it quick.
Thats the way I see it Driver 1 (and I speak as both employee and gaffer).
If you pay per shift, what happens when the drivers hours per shift exceed the normal contracted shift? = The driver gets disgruntled.
What happens when the driver does less hours than their contracted shift? = The company get disgruntled.
If you pay an hourly rate, the driver gets paid for what they actually do - fair on the driver- fair on the company.
cieranc:
Thats the way I see it Driver 1 (and I speak as both employee and gaffer).
If you pay per shift, what happens when the drivers hours per shift exceed the normal contracted shift? = The driver gets disgruntled.
What happens when the driver does less hours than their contracted shift? = The company get disgruntled.If you pay an hourly rate, the driver gets paid for what they actually do - fair on the driver- fair on the company.
The problem I’ve always found is where they were on hourly then go salaried it never works out because they still want to work to rule and don’t really get that’s not how it works otherwise you’d have just given them a higher hourly rate.
It seems to work with workshop/transport manager etc. as they know the score that the buck’s going to stop with them in keeping the fleet/workshop running.
unfortunately where i live, the mass influx of foreign drivers willing to work for minimum wage means class one drivers on days where i work get £6.40 p/h, thats less than the local McDonalds.
I`m doing nites atm which is trip money, around £120 per night for roughly 11-13 hours work. However, most of the other local firms pay between £6.70-£7.50 p/h for day work class 1!!!
cieranc:
What happens then when you have a breakdown, get stuck in a jam or held up on a job/site, and you don’t get finished when you expect to?Say, you’re contracted to a 12 hour day, on salary, but due to circumstances out of your control, you do a 15 hour day.
How do you get paid the extra? Hourly rate? Or not at all?
Been there, seen that, done that, never again.
Ken.
Quinny:
cieranc:
What happens then when you have a breakdown, get stuck in a jam or held up on a job/site, and you don’t get finished when you expect to?Say, you’re contracted to a 12 hour day, on salary, but due to circumstances out of your control, you do a 15 hour day.
How do you get paid the extra? Hourly rate? Or not at all?Been there, seen that, done that, never again.
Ken.
I was on for a subby of Maritime years ago, and I was on £ per day rate + night out money and parking.
The boss then decided he could make more money by having the truck do a night trunk for TNT, so I had to be back at the yard by 5pm, still a decent shift though.
Then he decided he’d have to drop my rate because the truck isn’t earning as much as it was, so I told him that we’d agreed a day rate no matter the hours, he was happy enough when I was doing 15hrs for under minimum wage, but now I’m getting an average hourly rate equivelent, he wants to drop it and told him to do one.
The only time I’ve ever worked for a day rate, as soon as you hear those words, you KNOW you’re going to be working max hours all the time, and if that changes, they’ll try and wriggle out of the agreement.
Fairest wage in my opinion is hourly rate with guarenteed minimum hours, and overtime after those hours. Say 8hrs guarenteed, if you can do the job in 7hrs, you’re not going to drag it out till 9hrs just to get an hours overtime in.
Trip pay’s ok depending on who decides the trip etc, ie, if you’re on tip work and you’re getting trip rate and you always end up going through the roadworks, and as soon as they’re clear your job changes, it’s time to give someone a smack 
Even when I was on day rate, I still drove to the rules, 40mph on singles etc, it was container work so most of my breaks were took on the doors, the same as when I was on hourly rate.
waynedl:
Quinny:
cieranc:
What happens then when you have a breakdown, get stuck in a jam or held up on a job/site, and you don’t get finished when you expect to?Say, you’re contracted to a 12 hour day, on salary, but due to circumstances out of your control, you do a 15 hour day.
How do you get paid the extra? Hourly rate? Or not at all?Been there, seen that, done that, never again.
Ken.
I was on for a subby of Maritime years ago, and I was on £ per day rate + night out money and parking.
The boss then decided he could make more money by having the truck do a night trunk for TNT, so I had to be back at the yard by 5pm, still a decent shift though.
Then he decided he’d have to drop my rate because the truck isn’t earning as much as it was, so I told him that we’d agreed a day rate no matter the hours, he was happy enough when I was doing 15hrs for under minimum wage, but now I’m getting an average hourly rate equivelent, he wants to drop it and told him to do one.The only time I’ve ever worked for a day rate, as soon as you hear those words, you KNOW you’re going to be working max hours all the time, and if that changes, they’ll try and wriggle out of the agreement.
Fairest wage in my opinion is hourly rate with guarenteed minimum hours, and overtime after those hours. Say 8hrs guarenteed, if you can do the job in 7hrs, you’re not going to drag it out till 9hrs just to get an hours overtime in.
Trip pay’s ok depending on who decides the trip etc, ie, if you’re on tip work and you’re getting trip rate and you always end up going through the roadworks, and as soon as they’re clear your job changes, it’s time to give someone a smack
Even when I was on day rate, I still drove to the rules, 40mph on singles etc, it was container work so most of my breaks were took on the doors, the same as when I was on hourly rate.
I worked for a small haulier on boxes that was like that. Wanted the toffee and ha’penny. When doing shorter runs he wanted to pay hourly. When he thought the runs were going to push 14 hours it was a ‘job rate’. I agreed to a job rate on the basis that he pays the equivalent of at least 14 hours…he declined and we went back to hourly+o/time…some want it both ways… 