Going Self Employed - Advice?

Since I’ve had my class 1 (actually before that, since my days as a humble 7.5t driver) I’ve wanted to go down the self employed route. Having to day spoken to an Umbrella, due to the fact that an agency I’m using neglected to tell me they pay this way, and realising what a rip off it is, I’d like to give going self employed a try. Instead of filling a thread with a 100 and 1 questions, and opening myself up to the tales of woe from certain members, is there anyone that’s self employed who’d be willing to help me out via pm in filling in some of the blanks over the weekend?

Thanks in advance,

SuffolkLad

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Have a look at a currently running thread mate: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=105597

Without being biased
The 1st questions I`d ask the OP is which type of S/E scheme he wants to operate??
Limited Co?
sole trader?
or under an umbrella scheme?
does he want to be VAT registered? (full fat or small rate scheme?)
With the answers to the questions he may get more targeted answers

peirre:
Without being biased
The 1st questions I`d ask the OP is which type of S/E scheme he wants to operate??
Limited Co?
sole trader?
or under an umbrella scheme?
does he want to be VAT registered? (full fat or small rate scheme?)
With the answers to the questions he may get more targeted answers

Ok, to answer some of those points, and hopefully get the more targeted answers, from speaking to the 2 agencies I’ve been working for (I don’t plan to work solely for agencies when s/e, but it’s a start) they will only pay their ‘self employed’ rates to those working as Ltd and not sole trader. And there will be no umbrella scheme involved, I refuse to pay 5% of my gross to someone in order to get what I’ve earned. As for VAT registered, I was going to investigate that option at a later date.

The best place to get advice is an accountant who can go through it all & give you examples, projections etc and help you along the way; ring around a few local firms, ask if they are experienced with this industry (ie do they know all the claims you can make) Don’t forget the more the accountant does, the more you pay!! So do some bits yourself.

Limited Co very quick & easy to set up online (£25); vat reg via HMRC website, plus flat rate scheme.

VAT earns you money and most agencies / transport co’s will expect it on your invoice.

If you go Ltd Company then you should go Vat registered on the flat rate scheme you will Benefit from it

Go and see an accountant.

If you had a problem with your eyes, or your legs stopped working, would you ask on here or go to a doctor?

See a specialist, some of the advice on here regarding self employment is ‘debatable’ when it comes to such issues. (Though not on this particular thread). :sunglasses:

A couple of questions. Those that are working as Ltd, is your ‘company’ trading as your name, ie, Joe Bloggs Driver, or under a business name?

Is any kind of insurance required?

Your trading name can be anything you want, but I would recommend not putting ‘driving’ or anything that defines the job as you can always use the company name to move into other areas in the future if you wanted to.

Insurance is always a grey area - personally speaking I would say you want Public Liability insurance (under £100 a year for a decent level of cover) as a minimum, after that it depends on if the person you are contracting to demands anything in the small print.

I personally feel though your entitled to use it, that its NOT a good idea to use your name in the company, keeping its ID separate for yours so that IF things go south you can put some distance between you & it. Besides if you do a search on the Companies house website youll understand what I mean, especially with dozens of smith or Jones Ltd listed on there. So long as its not rude or lewd its legal to name a Ltd Co what you want. Being a pig headed sort of guy, I actually did ALL the registrations, corporate, VAT, HMRC & more myself. But doing them all separately took me best part of 2 weeks & gave me a big headache in the process. A good accountant will do them in around 30mins but will charge you £200-£300 for the privilege, they can also register your company . On the subject of accountants, not all accountants will be familiar with S/E driver scenario, some specialise in builders, shopkeepers etc. So you may have to ring around and speak to them and explain the scenario. Then if you feel that accountant understands the way you want to operate, theyre the one for you.

Once you have all the info you think you`ll need to register the company (online or via accountant) & get the company No, get a company bank account, then go see the accountant with the Ltd Co No & bank account No.
Soon after speaking to the accountant the following will follow:
registration for corporation tax
registration for VAT (if you choose to)
registration for NI/PAYE contributions (this has become compulsory this year, usually NIL contributions via accountant)

The accountant will also ask you to authorise them to act as your agent, so they can file forms online, accounts etc

I can emphasis how good doing a couple of those free HMRC 2hr business courses are, as they make certain tax processes less daunting

once youve got the above in place, take a copy of the company registration certificate, VAT registration certificate, insurance (if required) to whoever you work for (agy or direct) and (if agy) go through the sign up process as you would with a new agency as a driver, but instead youll sign up your company as a sub contractor. But unless its specifically asked for, don`t show, or tell them about the insurance (PLI etc)

The simplest form of accounting is to get yourself an A4 day to a page diary, & stick all receipts in it. Each receipt stuck to the page/date you got it.
Keeping duplicate copies of bank statements I find useful, with online banking its easy to print 2 copies of statements, even if you only wanted 1, so you keep a copy & you save 1 for the accountant.
ANY files for the business that you store on your computer, keep at least 1 spare copy of them elsewhere (HDD/memory stick & regularly back it up) so that IF you computer goes ■■■■ up you don`t loose the files.

IF your familiar with spread sheets, its easy to keep your accounts, generate timesheets, invoices & much more.
My spread sheet is setup to simplify various processes such as VAT rtns, as it adds up the numbers in various columns (for that quarter) and tells me to put the total figure show in box no 1 etc into the same No box on the tax form

I know someone whose just gone down the ltd route, earnt about £680 first week. What would he expect to clear out of this after all expenses? Not travelling more than ten miles a day. Can he claim food etc?