Going over my driving hours

I went over my driving house yesterday by 15mins my boss said do a print out and write on back article 12 carrying valuable goods would this work or am I getting the ■■■■ taken out of me?

Be fine mate, just don’t make a habit of it

Do as boss says

If you keep a diary make a not in there as well with all info on

Now go to church & confess with 3 hail mary’s

LeeRoy84:
I went over my driving house yesterday by 15mins my boss said do a print out and write on back article 12 carrying valuable goods would this work or am I getting the ■■■■ taken out of me?

I think you should be shot at the earliest opportunity! :smiley:

I’d get a application into McDonald’s straight away if I was you…

Evil8Beezle:

LeeRoy84:
I went over my driving house yesterday by 15mins my boss said do a print out and write on back article 12 carrying valuable goods would this work or am I getting the ■■■■ taken out of me?

I think you should be shot at the earliest opportunity! :smiley:

Why Beez? Was he driving a rigid?

You’d never catch me even remotely getting close to my hours [emoji6]

Always make sure I’m parked up and comfy with plenty of time to spare!

PaulNowak:

Evil8Beezle:

LeeRoy84:
I went over my driving house yesterday by 15mins my boss said do a print out and write on back article 12 carrying valuable goods would this work or am I getting the ■■■■ taken out of me?

I think you should be shot at the earliest opportunity! :smiley:

Why Beez? Was he driving a rigid?

You’d never catch me even remotely getting close to my hours [emoji6]

Always make sure I’m parked up and comfy with plenty of time to spare!

Rigid? Like us glorifies van driver could max our drivers hours out, as we do some REAL work during the shift! :smiley:

And I’m sure you have never come close to maxing your hours out, and can’t even remember the last time you even came close! :grimacing:

Evil8Beezle:

PaulNowak:

Evil8Beezle:

LeeRoy84:
I went over my driving house yesterday by 15mins my boss said do a print out and write on back article 12 carrying valuable goods would this work or am I getting the ■■■■ taken out of me?

I think you should be shot at the earliest opportunity! :smiley:

Why Beez? Was he driving a rigid?

You’d never catch me even remotely getting close to my hours [emoji6]

Always make sure I’m parked up and comfy with plenty of time to spare!

Rigid? Like us glorifies van driver could max our drivers hours out, as we do some REAL work during the shift! :smiley:

And I’m sure you have never come close to maxing your hours out, and can’t even remember the last time you even came close! :grimacing:

Absolutely no idea dude.

I’m sure you’re semi confident in your van. But Mr Beaver will more than compensate for that. I commented to him the other day, some random guff about sunglasses.

Apparently he needs them, due to his celebrity status.

That would suggest coolness

But to hear him talk you’d think his backside was on fire

Leeroy84, there is no such thing as article 12 relating to going over driving hours with high value goods, the law only allows going over hours in circumstances beyond your control, such has bad weather, stuck in a road closure due to an accident, you are then allowed to find the next suitable parking place and do the print out to explain the reasons.
For example, you are stuck on the motorway due to snow or ice, the gritter comes along to clear the route, but by this time you have driven too many hours, you could not park on the motorway all night, so you move on to find a parking place.
Having high value does not mean you can do what you want with the driving hours, if stopped by the police or the DVSA they would not care what cargo you have or had on in the last 28 days of your tacho records.
Your boss does not know he is talking about, ask him to show you article 12, it is the driver that pays the fine.

I was near my works yard I was off the motorway when I realised I was near my hours no where safe to park an artic up plus my unit was going out on a night run so boss said I had to be back they why he say write what I did on the back.

LeeRoy84:
no where safe to park an artic up plus my unit was going out on a night run

First bit is a legal reason but second bit is not

Don’t make a habit of it, if you get tugged and you are getting one infringement a week then the VOSA man is going to have a field day with you.

I said before I set off id be close to the limit they said let us know if you are and we will sort it so I thought they would send another driver to meet me in a van to swap over if I’d have known they were going to do that I wouldn’t have set off I’m quite new to the company so think there taking the ■■■■ a bit one of the other drivers warned me not to let them bully me with the hours.

At the end of the day, it’s your licence that you paid a lot of money for. Don’t let the office push you around. If you are running close tell the office that either they need to send another driver out or you’re parking it up and taking 11/9 off and will run it in the next day. Any planner worth a pinch of salt will be able to deal with that.

Yes mate thats what I will do if it happens again just park up run in next day and pocket the night out money.

toby1234abc:
Leeroy84, there is no such thing as article 12 relating to going over driving hours with high value goods, the law only allows going over hours in circumstances beyond your control, such has bad weather, stuck in a road closure due to an accident, you are then allowed to find the next suitable parking place and do the print out to explain the reasons.
For example, you are stuck on the motorway due to snow or ice, the gritter comes along to clear the route, but by this time you have driven too many hours, you could not park on the motorway all night, so you move on to find a parking place.
Having high value does not mean you can do what you want with the driving hours, if stopped by the police or the DVSA they would not care what cargo you have or had on in the last 28 days of your tacho records.
Your boss does not know he is talking about, ask him to show you article 12, it is the driver that pays the fine.

Yes, there is such a thing. OK, It doesn’t give the driver carte blanche to ignore driving hours limits, but it does allow a little more leeway when it comes to selecting “suitable stopping places” for those carrying high value loads when delayed on the road by “unforeseen circumstances”. The Dept for Transport’s own published guidance specifically states that drivers with such loads may need to choose a location where the load can be secured (rather than take the first available layby). Meant to add - and if the nearest “suitable place” is back at the yard (which it may well be, if he’s only 15 minutes from base) then so be it.

Roymondo:

toby1234abc:
Leeroy84, there is no such thing as article 12 relating to going over driving hours with high value goods, the law only allows going over hours in circumstances beyond your control, such has bad weather, stuck in a road closure due to an accident, you are then allowed to find the next suitable parking place and do the print out to explain the reasons.
For example, you are stuck on the motorway due to snow or ice, the gritter comes along to clear the route, but by this time you have driven too many hours, you could not park on the motorway all night, so you move on to find a parking place.
Having high value does not mean you can do what you want with the driving hours, if stopped by the police or the DVSA they would not care what cargo you have or had on in the last 28 days of your tacho records.
Your boss does not know he is talking about, ask him to show you article 12, it is the driver that pays the fine.

Yes, there is such a thing. OK, It doesn’t give the driver carte blanche to ignore driving hours limits, but it does allow a little more leeway when it comes to selecting “suitable stopping places” for those carrying high value loads when delayed on the road by “unforeseen circumstances”. The Dept for Transport’s own published guidance specifically states that drivers with such loads may need to choose a location where the load can be secured (rather than take the first available layby).

We covered this in my cpc training actually, and you are correct! I also thought this applies for dangerous goods aswell??

‘Article 12’ or whatever you want to call it allows for ‘unforeseen circumstances’. The OP appears to have indicated it was known to be a close run thing on time - that is not unforeseen - that is planned.

As has been said, the rules being broken are ‘drivers hours’ rules - it’s the driver faces the main consequences.

However - for 15m and an infrequent event don’t worry. Print out, write what happened and relax.