Hello all as anyone done any class 1 work with glass bottles i,m due to start a job what requires me to strap and secure glass bottles is it just a matter of strapping with ratchet straps straight over the 2 pallets from one side to the other or with glass do you guys use different methods,not sure if they just use internal straps already on the trailer
Thanks all
Dean
Used to run a curtainsider out of a Polish bottle works in Normanton (Ferrybridge way) empty whiskey bottles for the Scottish whisky trade. We used to use internal straps only & then every 2nd double pallet cross strap ( X).
We do them out of Doncaster and Knottingley…They should show you how they want them strapped.But we use internals on doubled up pallets…Cross strap every 4th row.But the straps are fed through the bottom of the top pallet and then out the side and along the bottom pallet at a 45 degree angle.Might be different method where you loading out of though.So best to ask.Take it easy over speed bumps and the lile though…
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There’s a set procedure for each type of load.
Make sure you know how to do it,or they’ll probably refuse to load you.
Unless you’re xpo…of course
Same as daftvader used to load out of Doncaster & knottingley.
The pallets are very slippery when double stacked & the firm I used to sub for had quite a few loads go over, so no racing on roundabouts or as one driver did after missing his turning tried to do a u turn, stuck his drive axle wheel into a gulley and the whole lot tipped over 
Used to do Quinn glass at Elton regular for Downonyourluckton’s.
As above really, double stacked pallets with the straps fed through and across every other pallet. (Airbags and a couple of vertical pallets at the back).
Crappy job, but right next door to my favourite coffee stop (Chester services) 
Every cloud…
How come we used to do double pallet loads of glass on flat trailers with ropes and sheets and survived.
peterm:
How come we used to do double pallet loads of glass on flat trailers with ropes and sheets and survived.
Maybe it was because you had Eaton twin splitters and no night heaters!!
As others…
Have pointed out. Ask how they want it done but, the usual procedure involves pulling the strap through the top corner of the top pallet and forward tightening up at a 45 degree angle.
WH Malcolms were still using dolly knots to tighten the pallets down. The rear pallets were kept tight with two pallets placed on top of another two pallets and ratchet strapped up.
Sweep the trailer clean. They’re really picky about dusty litter strewn trailers and depending on which factory you load from, they sometimes refused to let you use their own brush.
I found the double stacked glass (loaded in blocks of four) was for some reason more stable than the large single pallet loads that regularly used to collapse going into John Smiths at Tadcaster. Almost every week there was a trailer in Malcolms yard that looked liked a pregnant hippo with the whole lot collapsed inside.
daftvader:
We do them out of Doncaster and Knottingley…They should show you how they want them strapped.But we use internals on doubled up pallets…Cross strap every 4th row.But the straps are fed through the bottom of the top pallet and then out the side and along the bottom pallet at a 45 degree angle.Might be different method where you loading out of though.So best to ask.Take it easy over speed bumps and the lile though…Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
agree with this, but we used to do every 2nd pallet… and be aware of how the forkies load/unload… they usually have double forks on that job… so you don’t want your straps trapped in the wrong pallets…
I did a load out of Knottingley with a ferry trailer. Me and the forkie stacked 4 pallets on the back, upright then fed some ratchet straps through them.
Captain Caveman 76:
peterm:
How come we used to do double pallet loads of glass on flat trailers with ropes and sheets and survived.Maybe it was because you had Eaton twin splitters and no night heaters!!
We were 'ard in those days.
peterm:
Captain Caveman 76:
peterm:
How come we used to do double pallet loads of glass on flat trailers with ropes and sheets and survived.Maybe it was because you had Eaton twin splitters and no night heaters!!
An we was allowed to stand on top the load to kick out the sheets 
Bottles into Savilles and Harvey’s wine in Whitchurch some place in Kingswood and the spice place by Bristol Temple Meads all on a flat.
Optrex at Greenford and Kennington, pickle factory in Deptford, Sarsons Vinegar at Vauxhall, Watneys Brewery at Enfield and others I can’t remember. We also did double pallet loads of empty coffee cans to Nestles at Hayes (middlesex) I think it was.
Forkies would usually give you a lift up and down if you were nice to them. You get your first sheet in place and before you have a chance to do anything, the wind blows it off. Down you go, roll it up and start again. 
Don’t get me started on cardboard and plywood, chip board etc.
peterm:
Optrex at Greenford and Kennington, pickle factory in Deptford, Sarsons Vinegar at Vauxhall, Watneys Brewery at Enfield and others I can’t remember. We also did double pallet loads of empty coffee cans to Nestles at Hayes (middlesex) I think it was.Forkies would usually give you a lift up and down if you were nice to them. You get your first sheet in place and before you have a chance to do anything, the wind blows it off. Down you go, roll it up and start again.
Don’t get me started on cardboard and plywood, chip board etc.
Lafarge plaster board out of Portishead. Board out of Newport docks. A double stacked load of chicken wire and barbed wire from Aberystwyth…
No, I really don’t miss “the good old days”.
eagerbeaver:
Used to do Quinn glass at Elton regular for Downonyourluckton’s.As above really, double stacked pallets with the straps fed through and across every other pallet. (Airbags and a couple of vertical pallets at the back).
Crappy job, but right next door to my favourite coffee stop (Chester services)
Only up that one once. I can’t think why you fell out with your planner. Such a nice man.
We get quite a few glass loads in at our place ( well, we would…) , and there are a lot of shot loads, ranging from one or two pallets shot, to the whole trailer load looking like “a pregnant hippo”…
Follow your forkies instructions, and take your time. No tearing around corners, and no sudden, hard braking.
Makes me laugh doing these glass loads as everyone is not properly secured… If you go by DVSA/VOSA guidelines and if you did get a pull and they checked the load then if they wanted could do us for insecure load. Just how are 2 internal straps through the top pallets and down the side efficient for 4 pallets double stacked of glass?
Before anyone pipes up I do the glass myself out of Ardargh depots and Allied glass depots been doing it for about 8 year. The only way I think you’d have a secure load with the glass is if they used the trailers they use on brewery work with the mesh curtain inside the trailer.
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
Makes me laugh doing these glass loads as everyone is not properly secured.
I agree…
The reason it’s done like this is to save money. The safest way to load double stacked pallets would be in a box trailer but, how many hauliers use box trailers? Plus they’d have to install loading ramps or loading bays and that costs money.
Whilst NDs advice about driving slow and steady is good, it made no difference to the load that fell to bits in the yard at Barnsley. All the driver had done was couple up and pull away, within 100 meters it had collapsed.
As long as (for arguments sake) 95% of what’s loaded gets to it’s destination intact then, as far as they’re concerned sod the other 5%.
Or, if not a box van, a ferry trailer with boards.