Garriby hill a166

i was following a tipper on tuesday he was heavy and we were crawling up at 10 mph anyway he must of missed a gear and we ended up stopped he managed to set off straight away, im left sat there with 17 ton of steel on and nothing but wheelspin had to engage diff lock to set off again anybody else been in this situation?

Garrowby Hill is a nasty one but if you are not tight behind another who maybe ■■■■■ up you have time to back off or get round him, modern clutches don’t like those kind of hill starts, mind you neither did asbestos faced plates :stuck_out_tongue:

Wheel Nut:
Garrowby Hill is a nasty one but if you are not tight behind another who maybe ■■■■■ up you have time to back off or get round him, modern clutches don’t like those kind of hill starts, mind you neither did asbestos faced plates :stuck_out_tongue:

Nowt man. You wanna try Crawleysides. Was gonna post the same about being too close. If I remember correctly Garrowby’s one of them that levels out, and then goes steep again, like Blue bank, and Sutton Bank, to name but two

renaultman:

Wheel Nut:
Garrowby Hill is a nasty one but if you are not tight behind another who maybe ■■■■■ up you have time to back off or get round him, modern clutches don’t like those kind of hill starts, mind you neither did asbestos faced plates :stuck_out_tongue:

Nowt man. You wanna try Crawleysides. Was gonna post the same about being too close. If I remember correctly Garrowby’s one of them that levels out, and then goes steep again, like Blue bank, and Sutton Bank, to name but two

Yes, like Staxton, the ■■■■■■ is only really bad in one bit, it improved when they used that non slip macadam

hyper26:
im left sat there with 17 ton of steel on and nothing but wheelspin had to engage diff lock to set off again anybody else been in this situation?

Four reasons I can think of (off hand) why that happened.
(1) you could have lifted your twin steer axel.
(2) or your sliding fifth wheel is in the wrong position.
(3) or your load was too far back and it’s wight unevenly distributed.
(4) or you gave it too much whelly in too low a gear.

don’t travel so close. i’m not having a pop at you. but some time back i stopped before a hill and spoke to a car driver.
i told him not to set off until i’m at the top of a very steep hill on the a684. and i’ll let him past as soon as possible.
i was carrying two 13 ton rocks. if the chains broke he’d be flattened, if i had to stop, i could have slid backwards.
so if you travel too close, then you have much less chance of avoiding a nasty bump.

They get stuck on there all the time. I helped one up there a few years back as I was heading that way in my Land Rover and he couldn’t get up without losing traction even after using all the normal tricks. The extra 4 driven wheels of the Landy were enough to get it up the hill.

Paul

i live at the bottom of garrowby and trucks getting stuck is a daily occurence, think some try and fly up and then as said get to close to whats in front and then stuck,

I help out on some farms in that area, and you have no option but to go up there in a tractor which also slows things down abit…

the worse one i saw was earlier this year where a fully loaded artic tipper got stuck about halfway, decided to try a 3 point turn, my mate ended up with the side of the trailer chained to his tractor in an attempt to stop it rolling over and down the hill… we ended up with pulling truck back so it was facing uphill and then pulling it up to a less steep bit where he got going on his own again

I got stuck this week in the ■■■■■■■ rain. Going up back roads, up a steep hill, i then had a left turn which was up a steeper hill into the farm. I swang out into the right hand lane or else you wont get round, as it’s a single track road, and it’s more than 90 degree turn, surrounded by trees and bushes so you cant realy see anything, and if you do stop, you’re pretty screwed. midway through the turn, a car comes down the hill i was turning into. I eased off incase she didnt stop, and promply got stuck with my unit in one road, and my trailer blocking both lanes of the road i was turning out of :laughing: Couldn’t lift the axle because i was in a 4x2 and had no diff lock :laughing:

After 15 minutes of trying, i ended up getting out, telling all the cars to reverse, so i could reverse out, back down the hill, and take another run up at it. I wouldn’t mind if i was loaded, but i was empty :confused:

I’m dreading winter :laughing:

Tanker work is notorious for this sort of problem.30,000 litre one compartment tank loaded with 15000 litres of product(acid normally,very heavy),all weight on trailer rear axles.Texaco Pembroke and Marchon works Whitehaven were deadly.Pembroke now has a new access and Marchon is shut.When I was on fridges we used to load at St Ivel,Hemyock,think the gradient was 1in6 and very narrow.Luckily all the local inhabitants knew the problem ascending fully loaded and would wait at the top if they saw a 38ton artic fully freighted on it’s way up.

The one difference between Garrowby and the others in the area (Sutton Bank, Blue Bank, Chimney Bank, Whitwell and Staxton) is that its wide. You can go around summat without going too far over the other side of the road. So you must have been close. I don’t know that Garrowby flattens out anywhere, you must be thinking of somewhere else.

I guess I use Sutton Bank the most out of the others and I’ve had to turn round on there twice. Thing was I used to come back from Scotland regular with an empty flat trailer and I knew I could get up Sutton Bank if the road was dry. The problem is that it can be dry in Thirsk and at Bagby lane end (the last possible turn off with an artic) but not dry at the top :unamused: . Mind you turning round is a piece of ■■■■ lol I dunno how they get stuck. Once I turned in the designated turning area, and once I reversed into the farm lane on the hairpin and simply went down to Bagby Lane again.

hyper26:
i was following a tipper on tuesday he was heavy and we were crawling up at 10 mph anyway he must of missed a gear and we ended up stopped he managed to set off straight away, im left sat there with 17 ton of steel on and nothing but wheelspin had to engage diff lock to set off again anybody else been in this situation?

I was in that very situation this week. I was travelling along the B5303 (just off the M6) on my way to Wigton. I almost stopped but not quite, the car behind me obviously knew the road better than me and he waited at the bottom until i had cleared it :smiley:

i had the same on garriby hill a couple of years ago.
driving a renault premium draw bar with fixed tag axle on the unit(which slightly takes weight off the drive axle) and 1 car positioned over the drive axle.it was a winters day,road was greasy/wet,i did everything as i usually do heading up towards it,then half wway up i missed the gear.standstill.,no diff lock fitted to this tub i was using.selecting crawler and bouncing away from a standing start,i managed to get to the top at 1 mph.i"ve had a fear of this hill ever since. :laughing:
you cant get a good enough run at garrowby thanks to the chicane just before the climb. :cry:

Old trick learnt many may moons ago; if you’re in a truck with a manual box and you find yourself coming to a standstill on a steep hill select 1st gear, switch engine off, let your foot off the clutch and let the gearbox “hold” the truck, then keeping off the clutch turn the ignition and voila. This not only saves killing your clutch it also prevents turning your halfshafts into cornettos.

Mike-C:

hyper26:
i was following a tipper on tuesday he was heavy and we were crawling up at 10 mph anyway he must of missed a gear and we ended up stopped he managed to set off straight away, im left sat there with 17 ton of steel on and nothing but wheelspin had to engage diff lock to set off again anybody else been in this situation?

I was in that very situation this week. I was travelling along the B5303 (just off the M6) on my way to Wigton. I almost stopped but not quite, the car behind me obviously knew the road better than me and he waited at the bottom until i had cleared it :smiley:

Seberham bank?
Used to go up it 2 or 3 times a week, at 44t
Used to hit it flat out in about 6th, then 1 straight change down to 3rd, always tried to get loaded front end heavy. When it was wet I had to ease right off to get slow enough to get the midlift to lift :laughing:

hyper26:
i was following a tipper on tuesday he was heavy and we were crawling up at 10 mph anyway he must of missed a gear and we ended up stopped he managed to set off straight away, im left sat there with 17 ton of steel on and nothing but wheelspin had to engage diff lock to set off again anybody else been in this situation?

Worse. Driving for Reed Boardall with a badly loaded fridge with most of the weight at the back running back to Bridlington. It was raining. Climbed up Garrowby and when I got to the bit where it widened, the truck just span its wheels. Had to reverse all the way down to the bottom in the rain, stick it in 1st and crawl up. Reversing down Garrowby on your blindside is definitely interesting.

Conor:

hyper26:
i was following a tipper on tuesday he was heavy and we were crawling up at 10 mph anyway he must of missed a gear and we ended up stopped he managed to set off straight away, im left sat there with 17 ton of steel on and nothing but wheelspin had to engage diff lock to set off again anybody else been in this situation?

Worse. Driving for Reed Boardall with a badly loaded fridge with most of the weight at the back running back to Bridlington. It was raining. Climbed up Garrowby and when I got to the bit where it widened, the truck just span its wheels. Had to reverse all the way down to the bottom in the rain, stick it in 1st and crawl up. Reversing down Garrowby on your blindside is definitely interesting.

yes same happened to me i was on the a166 on way back to fridaythorpe & the weather was fine until i got about a mile off garrowby then the heavens opened up so i had no choice to carry on & i got most of the way up then the wheels started to spin so i had to reverse back down then i took the right turn at the bottom & cut across country which only adds about 5-10 minutes on journey.

youve got drivers & drivers …i used to go up there fully freighted all the time for warcups drop suspension on unit(this will give you more traction ) go like zb not to many gear changes keeping your distance not a problem :smiley: :smiley:

Theres a hill in a place called Downley nr High Wycombe called Plomer Hill, probrably tame compared to the ones mentioned (14%) but the first time i tackled this hill in my old Scania 4 series 380 with a full load of tiles on it had just rained and the road was slippy due to fallen leaves. Got about halfway up when my wheels starting spinning and i started to slip back, tried to set off again and slipped back even further. So i put the handbrake on, hazards, then got out and started to walk back down the hill to see if i could turn round and try another route, as i walk back past the trailer am suprised to find a little old lady in her renault 5 wedged in the back of my trailer, she’d been tailgating me up the hill cos i was going slower and slower and when i rolled back she couldnt get out the way :laughing:

gorby1:
youve got drivers & drivers …i used to go up there fully freighted all the time for warcups drop suspension on unit(this will give you more traction ) go like zb not to many gear changes keeping your distance not a problem :smiley: :smiley:

go like zb in one of warcups trucks :laughing: i think not.a few of my mates work for them & when i see them i just laugh at the sheds they drive,ive seen better trucks going for export.