Maybe an interesting topic for the UK drivers/enthusiasts. A lot of Continental built lorries were powered by British engines and running gear.
As a starter two Belgian Miesse with Gardner engine from the hauler Transports Troisfontaines SA of Yvoz-Ramet (Liege).
N°59 in Heffen (Mechelen) with Cannaerts Co (Gardner service center)
N°58 on the road
cabine builder unknown 
Good idea for discussion, this. Did Miesse ever use any 8LXB240 engines?
Yep, some Miesse lorries had the 8LX engine.
Bernard had also Gardner licensed engines.
Also Latil had Gardner licensed engines.
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anorak:
Good idea for discussion, this. Did Miesse ever use any 8LXB240 engines?
Where’s Dennis, he’ll want proof.
Dieseldog66:
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anorak:
Good idea for discussion, this. Did Miesse ever use any 8LXB240 engines?Where’s Dennis, he’ll want proof.
mandator:
Yep, some Miesse lorries had the 8LX engine.
If I recall the recent discussions regarding Miesse, they stopped building lorries in the early 1970s. 8LXB-engined examples would be rare indeed.
Thinking about the threads on ERF’s European foray, I wonder Miesse or ERF considered a merger/joint effort of some sort? On the face of it, it seems like a good bit of business for both.
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anorak:mandator:
Yep, some Miesse lorries had the 8LX engine.If I recall the recent discussions regarding Miesse, they stopped building lorries in the early 1970s. 8LXB-engined examples would be rare indeed.
Thinking about the threads on ERF’s European foray, I wonder Miesse or ERF considered a merger/joint effort of some sort? On the face of it, it seems like a good bit of business for both.
Hey Anorak, the 240 Gardner don’t think. Because as they offered for more power Büssing Detroit and ■■■■■■■■
Gardner was surely not bad and some old drivers and mechanics praized them talking too me in the early days.
But it’s like a Fuller you love or hate it,lots said Daf had a bad box, but they couldn’t drive them and were not willing to learn. As I am,don’t like pre-chambre diesel and never will. In those days AEC fired up immediately and an ID was glowing and arrived with flat batteries in winter. in those days it wasn’t gowing fast change them but pulling and without breaks no air too. And the greenhorn was happy with straighten the bended rods.
In the beginning I started off with an old one and was used to a younger and pedal to the floor and the handbrake forget it.
But Miesse had a flirt with Atkinson for a bus chassis too,if sold ever■■?
So many have tried together look at the French and German marques.
bye Eric,
mandator:
Yep, some Miesse lorries had the 8LX engine.
Why I stated this, was because I remember talks at Cannaerts that the 8 cylinder was used in Miesses. Maybe not ex. factory but later on by swapping Bussing or Detroit engines…
Evening all, Miesse and Foden sold new chassis with the 8LW as standard in Belgium, never the 8LXB far too late!!
Cheerio for now.
They used Gardner engines in White Trucks in Australia who put them in Road Commanders, even a Mack had a Gardner fitted in 1945 
Bonjour Saviem, you just beat me to it, the 8 cylinder engines for Miesse were all 8LW’s. I must admit that in my formative years, in the early 60’s, many of the ‘bus’ engines produced at Patricroft went to Miesse, along with a lesser number of truck derivatives. Pre War, Cannaerts in Mechelen operated many Gardner powered Miesse vehicles. I got involved with Jo Cannaerts in the early 80’s when we jointly spent time working on Van Hool and Jonckheere to introduce Gardner back into the Belgian Market, a number of vehicles were built with 6HLXT’s but the Hawker saga was just kicking off and we had Bus Dereg in the UK which made SNCF, ( the Belgian equivalent of NBC Bus in the UK) hold fire, just when we were on the point of a potential order for 30+ Van Hool buses for SNCF.
The one success we did have, in Belgium, Was via Jo who ordered a High floor single deck Spaceliner Coach from Neoplan for his Fleet. Irrespective of the bus side of the business we had also been trying to get Van Hool to fit the 6LYT into their DD Coaches, we had already got them specified for the DD Neoplan Skyliner but the VH sales people were not playing ball. We decided to get the Spaceliner built in time for the Kortrijk ( Bus and Coach) Show in autumn 1985. I ‘leaned’ on engine test to give me " A good 350 BHP" for this engine, the ZF 6HP600 auto box was just ‘in’ ,for maximum engine torque from the 6LYT, so we kept a low profile with ZF regarding this engines true rating.At Kortrijk they have a series of performance tests plus a concours that Manufacturers can partake in, the winner then becomes Coach of the Year. Being Belgium VH or Jonckheere always seemed to alternate as the winners, but, this time round the Neoplan won hands down. A MAN 360HP powered coach was dropped from the competition halfway through for “Back Smoke” seemingly they had been fidling with the fuel pump to try and meet the 6LYT’s performance on the runway ‘Sprint’ and up the ‘Hill Climb’ test, Oops! Neoplan were over the moon, Van Hool were not. We became very good friends with Neoplan from then on!!!
5Valve:
Bonjour Saviem, you just beat me to it, the 8 cylinder engines for Miesse were all 8LW’s. I must admit that in my formative years, in the early 60’s, many of the ‘bus’ engines produced at Patricroft went to Miesse, along with a lesser number of truck derivatives. Pre War, Cannaerts in Mechelen operated many Gardner powered Miesse vehicles. I got involved with Jo Cannaerts in the early 80’s when we jointly spent time working on Van Hool and Jonckheere to introduce Gardner back into the Belgian Market, a number of vehicles were built with 6HLXT’s but the Hawker saga was just kicking off and we had Bus Dereg in the UK which made SNCF, ( the Belgian equivalent of NBC Bus in the UK) hold fire, just when we were on the point of a potential order for 30+ Van Hool buses for SNCF.
The one success we did have, in Belgium, Was via Jo who ordered a High floor single deck Spaceliner Coach from Neoplan for his Fleet. Irrespective of the bus side of the business we had also been trying to get Van Hool to fit the 6LYT into their DD Coaches, we had already got them specified for the DD Neoplan Skyliner but the VH sales people were not playing ball. We decided to get the Spaceliner built in time for the Kortrijk ( Bus and Coach) Show in autumn 1985. I ‘leaned’ on engine test to give me " A good 350 BHP" for this engine, the ZF 6HP600 auto box was just ‘in’ ,for maximum engine torque from the 6LYT, so we kept a low profile with ZF regarding this engines true rating.At Kortrijk they have a series of performance tests plus a concours that Manufacturers can partake in, the winner then becomes Coach of the Year. Being Belgium VH or Jonckheere always seemed to alternate as the winners, but, this time round the Neoplan won hands down. A MAN 360HP powered coach was dropped from the competition halfway through for “Back Smoke” seemingly they had been fidling with the fuel pump to try and meet the 6LYT’s performance on the runway ‘Sprint’ and up the ‘Hill Climb’ test, Oops! Neoplan were over the moon, Van Hool were not. We became very good friends with Neoplan from then on!!!
5Valve:
Bonjour Saviem, you just beat me to it, the 8 cylinder engines for Miesse were all 8LW’s. I must admit that in my formative years, in the early 60’s, many of the ‘bus’ engines produced at Patricroft went to Miesse, along with a lesser number of truck derivatives. Pre War, Cannaerts in Mechelen operated many Gardner powered Miesse vehicles. I got involved with Jo Cannaerts in the early 80’s when we jointly spent time working on Van Hool and Jonckheere to introduce Gardner back into the Belgian Market, a number of vehicles were built with 6HLXT’s but the Hawker saga was just kicking off and we had Bus Dereg in the UK which made SNCF, ( the Belgian equivalent of NBC Bus in the UK) hold fire, just when we were on the point of a potential order for 30+ Van Hool buses for SNCF.
The one success we did have, in Belgium, Was via Jo who ordered a High floor single deck Spaceliner Coach from Neoplan for his Fleet. Irrespective of the bus side of the business we had also been trying to get Van Hool to fit the 6LYT into their DD Coaches, we had already got them specified for the DD Neoplan Skyliner but the VH sales people were not playing ball. We decided to get the Spaceliner built in time for the Kortrijk ( Bus and Coach) Show in autumn 1985. I ‘leaned’ on engine test to give me " A good 350 BHP" for this engine, the ZF 6HP600 auto box was just ‘in’ ,for maximum engine torque from the 6LYT, so we kept a low profile with ZF regarding this engines true rating.At Kortrijk they have a series of performance tests plus a concours that Manufacturers can partake in, the winner then becomes Coach of the Year. Being Belgium VH or Jonckheere always seemed to alternate as the winners, but, this time round the Neoplan won hands down. A MAN 360HP powered coach was dropped from the competition halfway through for “Back Smoke” seemingly they had been fidling with the fuel pump to try and meet the 6LYT’s performance on the runway ‘Sprint’ and up the ‘Hill Climb’ test, Oops! Neoplan were over the moon, Van Hool were not. We became very good friends with Neoplan from then on!!!
Just read this.Kelvin Fowler eh! Sounds like a new engine merger.Are you he ?
Tony Smith
Sorry, meant to put this on the ■■■■■■■ discussion
Tony
OK, how about Gardner in North America? Which famous marque from across the Atlantic fitted Gardner engines?
Mack Trucks fitted Gardners