Can someone tell me whether there are any special requirements regarding the parking of fuel tanker trailers on what has previously been a non-hazardous site?
From time to time, these trailers are left in a yard used for food distribution, sometimes full, sometimes empty.
What’s the legal requirements? For example, should the area be secure? Spill kits? extra fire extinguishers? Should there be a DGSA on site?
I don’t know anything about hazardous regs, and i’m asking this on behalf of my dad.
Not sure. But thinking about it. Is it any more hazardous than parking at an MSA or a truckstop?
Probably safer.
Not too sure but
I know an empty tanker is more dangerous than a full one, and we do servicing for fuel tanker tractor units, And in there yard they are not allowed to leave a loaded trailer without having a unit under it,
Not sure if this is just the site policy or the proper procedures but the idea is that if there is a problem onsite the takers can be moved out of harms way quickly,
I would imagine a spill kit is a must and a few fire extinguishers but the trailer should have its own extinguishers on it (these are for tyre fires only by the way)
Also i would think fuel tankers and food stuffs close together are a big no no
Hope this helps
i would check on that from an official source. fuel tankers are a big thing at the moment. the police see them as a terrorist threat considering they are a convenient mobile bomb. i believe their are all sorts of new regulations and i would assume their parking procedures would be different to a non hazardous load
If you spot one, I am happy to help empty it a bit 
Just done the ADR so - had it drummed into me … …
Prefered parking place for ANYTHING covered by ADR is in a secured depot (not necessarily a fuel / hazard depot), after which the general advice was to ensure that you parked away from places that joe public and his pals would congregate. As far as fire extinguishers requirements go I understand that is for the unit and trailer as a combination - so they could all be on the unit rather than at the back of the trailer behind the wheels - really useful if you get a nearside tyre fire on the motorway… … … (Not sure about the spill kit, not standard requirement for ADR in general - may be in the written instructions or standard kit for the carrier)…
As for parking in the same yard as fuel distribution I can’t see a problem for that (since there is nothing to stop food distributors having diesel tanks onsite !?!)… finally, if it is general tankers rather than a fuel specialist - what is to say that the tanker won’t be carrying some sort of food / drink on it’s next trip… … … the guy that took us for the ADR told us of times when he would be carrying diesel on one trip, wash out, then load with beer !!!..
If there is any doubt then I would contact the carrier since they cannot give you duff advice on DG (honest - it is against the law !!)…
G
. the guy that took us for the ADR told us of times when he would be carrying diesel on one trip, wash out, then load with beer !!!..
Nice!
carrying diesel then beer 
i think hes telling porkies 
dave:
carrying diesel then beer
i think hes telling porkies
I was sceptical, but couldn’t see why he would make something like that up… … I guess that anyone doing general tanker work would be in a better position to comment… … …
Edit:
Just did a trawl on the net: cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/juicgui8.html Ok it is US based, and about Juice rather than beer… …
An example of an agreement with a transporter that both the producer and user should consider is an agreement regarding the transporter’s cleaning and sanitizing protocol. The provisions of a cleaning and sanitizing protocol will depend on the configuration of the container and the previous load. A cleaning and sanitizing protocol for a complex container such as a tanker that has many removable parts and a venting system will differ from a cleaning and sanitizing protocol for a 55-gallon reusable drum. A cleaning and sanitizing protocol for a tanker with a previous load that was oil-based should include a degreasing step, but if the previous load was a water-based food, the degreasing step should not be used. An example of a cleaning and sanitizing protocol for a tanker is set out below:"
Oil then Juice concentrate ■■? Makes you wonder about more unsavoury chemicals… Concentrated Sulphuric Acid anyone ■■
it would take too long to completely clean the tank out. never mind the pump and the filters and all the hoses etc. i have drove petrol/diesel and aviation fuel tankers before (admittedly in the military) but i cant for the life believe this to be correct.
beer would come under food stuffs and as you see on the back of tankers that carry such goods it says “foodstuffs” only.
i do smell a rat here
the oil based product in this case is more likely to be a food based product ie) cooking oil etc. an edible oil.
im not saying impossible but improbable due to the time it would need to clean properly.
Ok, last try since I am out of time, this one might do the job … …
Look long enough and you will probably find better sources for this sort of information… … … …
… … Big quote from: tuberose.com/Chemicals_in_Food.html
Out of 3.5 million truck drivers, four from the Northwest broke a code of silence in the industry, and told members of a House Public Works and Transportation Subcommittee in July, 1989 that it is common practice to use the same refrigerated trailers to haul food and garbage. The truckers described how loads of food are taken from farm states to Eastern cities and then exchanged for loads of urban waste that are “back-hauled” to landfills in the South and Midwest. Then the process is repeated, with the trucks again hauling food eastward. “It actually pays more to haul garbage than food,” testified one trucker. For example, Indian River, a nationally recognized Florida tank company that regularly hauls liquid foods, with a fleet of more than 300 tank trucks, was regularly hauling a non-food-grade chemical for Nyacol Products, of Ashland, Mass. The substance is colloidal antimony, a pentoxide used as a flame proofing agent in textiles and plastics (shown to cause acute congestion of the heart, liver and kidneys, according to the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists). One of the tankers, owned by a nationally known carrier with a large fleet of tankers, had previously carried ethylene glycol (also known as antifreeze; it is in the family of solvents, and also is used as hydraulic fluid and as a chemical intermediate in the production of polyesters), then carried cooking oil. Another Midwest owned tanker previously had carried latex emulsion that had dried on the inside of the tanker a half-inch thick, and then carried apple juice. Robert DeLashmit heard truckers tell how they hauled engine oil, resin and formaldehyde in tankers that next carried refined cooking oils for his firm, Premier Edible Oils of which he is executive vice president. The truckers testified that Premium Transport supplied the Portland refinery with false information that they were hauling only juice. Yet, his company continues to use the company to haul refined kosher oils used by the baking, salad oil, margarine and the confectionery industries.
An official with a nationally known carrier that operates a fleet of more than 2,000 tankers, said the bottom line is cheap freight rates. He told a Yakima Valley, Washington, juice processor that tankers were hauling their juice South but backhauling asphalt emulsion North. “They just didn’t want to hear that,” he said. Don Roberts, a trucker from Kansas City, says he alternated food loads such as juice with chemicals more dangerous than those reported by the Northwest tank truck drivers. Roberts has hauled insecticides to the Yakima Valley, then loaded apple juice. He took a load of highly toxic phenolic resin to Oregon, after which he took on a load of kosher cooking oil. Other times, Roberts said, he dropped off a load of the wood preservative, Pentachlorophenol, containing the potent carcinogen dioxin, in North Dakota and then drove to Yakima to pick up apple juice. “Other tank companies were doing the same thing,” Roberts says. “We hauled anything that was liquid. It was legal. There was no reason not to.” The drivers who came forward to expose some of the hauling practices said they lied or falsified paperwork to hide the fact they had just hauled a chemical. Food companies, they said, never tried to verify the information. “If people are telling you this is not widespread, it’s a blatant, outright lie,” says a cleaning specialist at a large tank wash facility on the West Coast. This man cleans hundreds of tankers for carriers around the country, and he says many of them are hauling chemicals before going on to load a food-grade commodity.
Some of this has been against the law in the states (there is more US stuff on the net than Euro stuff) since 1990: wtvt.com/investreptr/oj.html … although the law relates to WASTE products and not industrial chemical products / oils…
… obviously some food producers will have their own rules so I am not suggesting that it happens with EVERY product.
G
only in american
now i understand.
thats why the beer in america tastes like wee. 
also nothing to sayt he beer was actually going to be drunk.
Some of it is used in the chemical industry, hair shampoos for example
In that case rinsing it out with some detergent and water would be enough.
dave:
carrying diesel then beer
i think hes telling porkies
I know he is telling porkies