From DVSA themselves, loose bubble wrap needs strapping

This is the reply I got about loose rolls of bubble wrap, loose light boxes etc in a curtainsider with a load bearing curtain. They say they would consider it a insecure load with no further restraint. This is the second reply I got after asking for clarification as I couldn’t believe it…

Good Afternoon the load would still require restraining even when in a load bearing trailer, for a load to be acceptable in this type of structure it would have to be a positive fit whereas the material you have is flexible and likely to move therefore as per my colleagues email the best suggestion is some form of cargo netting restraint

I used to do a bit of agency work for mcfarlane and we would have 40/50 giant rolls and never strapped them down.

westermant:
I used to do a bit of agency work for mcfarlane and we would have 40/50 giant rolls and never strapped them down.

Never strapped and never got pulled?

Strap them up so tight that you burst all the bubbles.

It’s getting to the point where you may aswell not bother complying because whatever you do won’t satisfy DVSA and their opinions based rules.

Just worked out what DVSA stands for, Definitely Very Stupid ■■■■■■■■, when it comes to load restraint, what the ■■■■ do they know? They’ve never driven a lorry in there lives, they need some serious training, whats the average age of a DVSA Inspector? How can they possibly critisise an old time driver, who has had 30 years or more of driving in all conditions with so many different loads and road conditions and they are going to tell them it’s wrong?, ■■■■■■■ health and safety ■■■■.
Sappr

What about a greased up giant balloon that would only fit in a trailer.
Would that require strapping?
I know this is not a typical load but it is possible.

toonsy:
It’s getting to the point where you may aswell not bother complying because whatever you do won’t satisfy DVSA and their opinions based rules.

Must admit, I have never had a problem with them, the problem with alot of drivers is they don’t make the effort.

giant greased up balloon, would that be the bag of wine in a container, lets see you strap that before your overcome by the fumes.

rambo19:

toonsy:
It’s getting to the point where you may aswell not bother complying because whatever you do won’t satisfy DVSA and their opinions based rules.

Must admit, I have never had a problem with them, the problem with alot of drivers is they don’t make the effort.

I agree and honestly I’ve never had an issue with DVSA here, or French/German/Spanish/Dutch equivalents, but the difference over there is the rules are the rules as written as opposed to over here it appears to be edging towards an officer’s interpretation of rules on any given day…

DickyNick:
This is the reply I got about loose rolls of bubble wrap, loose light boxes etc in a curtainsider with a load bearing curtain. They say they would consider it a insecure load with no further restraint. This is the second reply I got after asking for clarification as I couldn’t believe it…

Good Afternoon the load would still require restraining even when in a load bearing trailer, for a load to be acceptable in this type of structure it would have to be a positive fit whereas the material you have is flexible and likely to move therefore as per my colleagues email the best suggestion is some form of cargo netting restraint

Perhaps the real issue is the mentality.

The question you should be asking is “what do I need to ensure this load doesn’t move in transit (including under any shocks or sharp maneouvers)?”

The fact that this is an unusual load that probably cannot escape the curtain isn’t the question. The question is what is needed to secure it to the trailer bed.

If you start from the question of “what do I need to secure this to the bed?”, then the response from the DVSA doesn’t seem so absurd.

The dispensation for load-bearing curtains only applies where the goods are effectively secured on all 4 sides, the bottom is secure obviously by virtue of the bed, and top secured by gravity and the fact that the weight, integrity, and other qualities of the load will prevent movement in all circumstances except a total overturn onto the roof (in which case the trailer itself is unlikely to survive).

If a load-bearing trailer is only part-full, then the back side of the goods items still needs to be secure.

Typica DVSA always trying to burst the drivers bubble!
Sorry couldnt help myself there

DickyNick:

westermant:
I used to do a bit of agency work for mcfarlane and we would have 40/50 giant rolls and never strapped them down.

Never strapped and never got pulled?

Never strapped and luckily never pulled

westermant:

DickyNick:

westermant:
I used to do a bit of agency work for mcfarlane and we would have 40/50 giant rolls and never strapped them down.

Never strapped and never got pulled?

Never strapped and luckily never pulled

Never ■■■■■■■■ a curtainsider unless i feel load has a chance of going over should i need to brake suddenly.
Never been pulled in over 20 years touchwood


Looks like they got a wurzel

I wonder if the driver will get Bale :laughing: - taxi ordered !

Pennineman:
I wonder if the driver will get Bale :laughing: - taxi ordered !

Cab operated rear marauder ( iirc that’s what they’re called ? ) and away !

Pennineman:
I wonder if the driver will get Bale :laughing: - taxi ordered !

I heard he baled on foot.

^^^^^^^^^
You three are clutching at straws :slight_smile:

I’m sure that’s the last straw for that farmer!