Further to the tragic death of the 39 migrants, is there any way you could get out of a locked trailer? I guess that the walls comprise aluminium sheet, insulation and external layer (ali). Could you carve an air hole with a pen knife?
Where are you planning on going?
ScaniaUltimate:
Where are you planning on going?
Come again?
I don’t think you would have any chance at all with a pen knife to be honest. They are very well built. The doors normally close very tight as well so no way of leveraging them from inside either i reckon
If you had someting like a steel bar you could batter your way through the side once you puncture the skin it wouldn’t take a lot to get through the insulation but highly unlikely to be able to force the back doors.
Optimum:
Further to the tragic death of the 39 migrants, is there any way you could get out of a locked trailer? I guess that the walls comprise aluminium sheet, insulation and external layer (ali). Could you carve an air hole with a pen knife?
I am wondering did you see the tv programme too?
I’d of thought you would be better off educating people not to get in them in the first place , rather than educating them how to get out after they’d got in
drover:
I don’t think you would have any chance at all with a pen knife to be honest. They are very well built. The doors normally close very tight as well so no way of leveraging them from inside either i reckon
Depends on the spec of the fridge usually the aluminium lining is only about a foot up to protect the skin from pallet damage, normally the sides are a type of composite plastic, the insulation is a foam type substance and the outer layer again a type of plastic if you were in with a load and there were fridge bars in you could possibly puncture it to make a breathing hole, however by the time the occupants realise the air is running out it is probably to late for them to do anything about it.
Reefer rigids often have kick release switches inside the back with a protective cover.
However, it does depend on whether we have a Tuckaway tail lift on it, or a fold up.
On the back of an Artic trailer, I don’t expect there to be any need for one.
Any “breathing” hole would let different temp air in and compromise the load
Load locking bar probably the better weapon.
Strong men should be able to batter the sides enough to puncture a breathing hole even given the angle required to get enough battering ram velocity going on the bar.
Now i’ve never tried this obviouly but would the fridge unit inlet be a possible attack point assuming no controls inside, it would be my first point especially if the fridge was running or the cold blast would reduce you to useless before you suffocated, hoping here to smash the fan drive…however i’m no fridge engineer (do we have one here on the books 
) so don’t know if smashing through the inlet would allow the bar to jam the fans up…if you could do that maybe the fridge alarm would go off.
Not something i’m about to try… but there should be some way of opening up the door from the inside, not without the realms of possibility some poor driver could be in there moving cages about after the present delivery point has gone back to their other work and the shutter cable snaps allowing the shutter to slam down the recoil of which could possibly send the locking handle into a stuck fast position…obviously if you were deliberately locked in there’s going to be a manual padlock or bolt seal on the outside.
As you can tell i’m not up to speed on modern fridge trailers, the last fridges i used were multi temp compartmentalised trailers on supermarket distribution work, not trailers meant for international work.
The roofs are usually the weakest point. But I’d agree with Juddian
Juddian:
Load locking bar probably the better weapon.
Strong men should be able to batter the sides enough to puncture a breathing hole even given the angle required to get enough battering ram velocity going on the bar.Now i’ve never tried this obviouly but would the fridge unit inlet be a possible attack point assuming no controls inside, it would be my first point especially if the fridge was running or the cold blast would reduce you to useless before you suffocated, hoping here to smash the fan drive…however i’m no fridge engineer (do we have one here on the books
Not something i’m about to try… but there should be some way of opening up the door from the inside, not without the realms of possibility some poor driver could be in there moving cages about after the present delivery point has gone back to their other work and the shutter cable snaps allowing the shutter to slam down the recoil of which could possibly send the locking handle into a stuck fast position…obviously if you were deliberately locked in there’s going to be a manual padlock or bolt seal on the outside.
As you can tell i’m not up to speed on modern fridge trailers, the last fridges i used were multi temp compartmentalised trailers on supermarket distribution work, not trailers meant for international work.
Stopping the cooling cycle might attract attention, but smash into the condenser in a fridge and you’ll release the refrigerant fluid into the enclosed compartment won’t you? Not healthy stuff at all I believe.
There is likely to be unseen reinforcement around the cooling plant, doors, corners etc so if you did have to smash anything, then just an open panel might be the place?
One person in an empty trailer would have a lot of air, but if there was a load bar…
The situation for multiple people is different since the trailer may be loaded with very little floor space available.
Sand Fisher:
Optimum:
Further to the tragic death of the 39 migrants, is there any way you could get out of a locked trailer? I guess that the walls comprise aluminium sheet, insulation and external layer (ali). Could you carve an air hole with a pen knife?I am wondering did you see the tv programme too?
What programme was that?
Optimum:
Sand Fisher:
Optimum:
Further to the tragic death of the 39 migrants, is there any way you could get out of a locked trailer? I guess that the walls comprise aluminium sheet, insulation and external layer (ali). Could you carve an air hole with a pen knife?I am wondering did you see the tv programme too?
What programme was that?
Hunting the Essex lorry killers was on BBC2 and is still available on the iplayer
dozy:
I’d of thought you would be better off educating people not to get in them in the first place , rather than educating them how to get out after they’d got in
How are you supposed to load them, without entering them? What if someone closes the door behind you?
Ok, I get that backed up to a loading dock the doors are held open.
I know loaders are a bit dim, but wouldn’t they notice people in the trailer while it’s being loaded…
stu675:
dozy:
I’d of thought you would be better off educating people not to get in them in the first place , rather than educating them how to get out after they’d got inHow are you supposed to load them, without entering them? What if someone closes the door behind you?
Ok, I get that backed up to a loading dock the doors are held open.
These people weren’t loading them though were they , they were being transported in them
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I know loaders are a bit dim, but wouldn’t they notice people in the trailer while it’s being loaded…
What if they’ve really fallen out with you?
Dont give people any ideas here some may lock in the shunters they hate