FRENCH BORDERS CLOSED, STATE OF EMERGENCY

The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!

Don’t think sending professional soldiers in to deal with murdering rebels is OTT Snowman mate. :open_mouth:

robroy:
I certainly aint an apologist for Muslims mate by any stretch, but keep things in perspective ffs, they aint ALL bad, it’s the brainwashed radicals that are the problem.
A lot of outrages and atrocities throughout history have also been perpetrated in the name of Christianity.

They ain’t all bad. Christians did XYZ a few centuries ago. Religion of peace etc. It’s just words mate, won’t achieve anything.

It’s not a knee jerk reaction, not on my part anyway. A knee jerk reaction is something you come up with on the spot when triggered to do so by a particular event. I’ve always thought muslims are a blight on the west and that won’t be changing any time soon. They need us more than we need them, that’s why they come here in droves rather than the other way round.

The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!

+1
I recall a few years ago when this sort of bombing & killing happened here, the British Isles, on a regular basis, we didn’t nuke anyone then & I don’t see it happening here. Just as well as some on here really like Ireland & the Irish.

I have to agree with a lot of above posts. Its about time Muslims are held responsible for their attitude to this country.

They seem to love all the capitalism, flash cars, cash etc etc but hate us ’ Kufar '. Arranged marriages and Sharia law (amongst other issues), are not our way.

I think its about time that we as a Country grew a pair. Get out of this bloody EU ■■■■■■■■ for a start, and begin to throw EVERY family member of any person connected with terrorism in any way, shape or form, out of Britain.

These Muslims are quick to close ranks. Maybe if you know you will ruin things for your WHOLE family, you may think twice.

robroy:
I certainly aint an apologist for Muslims mate by any stretch, but keep things in perspective ffs, they aint ALL bad, it’s the brainwashed radicals that are the problem.
A lot of outrages and atrocities throughout history have also been perpetrated in the name of Christianity.

In my broad opinion ALL religion is ■■■■■■■■, a superstition acting as a cushion to deal with the fear, and unknown quantity of death. :bulb:

As for dealing with the problem in the UK, we need strong leadership that prioritises in the safety and welfare of the indigenous population, rather than pussyfooting and skirting around the minorities in case they are ‘‘offended’’.
I couldn’t imagine old leaders such as Churchill, or even Thatcher [zb] ing about as they do today.

As for ISIS send in a combined force of Paras and US Airborne forces in a surprise mass parachute operation, WW2 Market Garden style, and sort the [zb] out, they are totally out of order and are taking the ■■■■.
The rag tag type trigger happy rebel types would be no match for real pro soldiers.

You’ve contradicted yourself because it would actually take the idea of calling a spade a spade,in the form of a definition of nationality that is based on ethnicity not place of birth,to fix the problem of the home grown element.

As for seperating the so called good Muslims from the so called bad we don’t really have that luxury.Just as would have been the case in deporting the Irish sleeper cell problem and it’s real,or perceived,support here ‘if’ it had turned to suicide bombing without warning and hostage taking and deliberate massacres of the general population.Bearing mind that we are dealing with a potential mass threat in this case.In which deceiving their enemies into a false sense of security is all part of the Jihadist cause.

As for religion the difference is that Islam is based on an ideology of violent,oppressive and expansionist takeover and rule that doesn’t allow for any dissent.Good luck with finding any so called ‘good’ in that. :unamused:

Terry T:

robroy:
I certainly aint an apologist for Muslims mate by any stretch, but keep things in perspective ffs, they aint ALL bad, it’s the brainwashed radicals that are the problem.
A lot of outrages and atrocities throughout history have also been perpetrated in the name of Christianity.

They ain’t all bad. Christians did XYZ a few centuries ago. Religion of peace etc. It’s just words mate, won’t achieve anything.

It’s not a knee jerk reaction, not on my part anyway. A knee jerk reaction is something you come up with on the spot when triggered to do so by a particular event. I’ve always thought muslims are a blight on the west and that won’t be changing any time soon. They need us more than we need them, that’s why they come here in droves rather than the other way round.

You appear to have edited out my opinion on all religions which has the effect of putting my post in a different context :bulb:
I also never mentioned the words ‘knee jerk reaction’ you seem to imply I did :neutral_face:

I’m sick of hearing about immigrants and there human rights etc… The poor people who lost their lifes yesterday was shown no mercy, so F**k them all, I actually thought Putin would of stood up and made a stand after the recent plane incident…

This will end up with the public taking action into their own hands, as the political world just bends over and accepts this nonsense called ‘IS’

robroy:

The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!

Don’t think sending professional soldiers in to deal with murdering rebels is OTT Snowman mate. :open_mouth:

It was more the “get rid of all muslims and make it an illegal religion” bit I was meaning. Plus some of the other stuff on this thread borders on lunacy. Its not ALL muslims who are the problem
Im all for sending the full force of the western military over there. The sooner the better. IMO the west can wipe out ISIS in about a week if they really go for it.

BillyHunt:

The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!

+1
I recall a few years ago when this sort of bombing & killing happened here, the British Isles, on a regular basis, we didn’t nuke anyone then & I don’t see it happening here. Just as well as some on here really like Ireland & the Irish.

Save us the pro immigration apologist bs.The Irish troubles were/are all about a small localised misguided faction that didn’t want to accept the Anglo Irish treaty concerning the North South border.Who actually applied rules and restraint in what they did.Whereas Jihad is a totally different threat based on invasion and takeover by whatever means without rules.As we’ve seen in Israel,London,New York and Paris among other examples. :unamused:

The-Snowman:

robroy:

The-Snowman:
You can always rely on trucknet not to go for any knee jerk reactions or go OTT on the solutions!

Don’t think sending professional soldiers in to deal with murdering rebels is OTT Snowman mate. :open_mouth:

It was more the “get rid of all muslims and make it an illegal religion” bit I was meaning. Plus some of the other stuff on this thread borders on lunacy. Its not ALL muslims who are the problem
Im all for sending the full force of the western military over there. The sooner the better. IMO the west can wipe out ISIS in about a week if they really go for it.

How do you know who and how many Muslims support Jihad.Bearing in mind that the idea of forcible conversion or takeover is one of the religion’s aims and duties on its followers.Let alone the fact that deceiving their ‘enemies’ ( non believers or apostates ) is part of that.IE a Jihadist would happily behead someone having called them their ‘friend’ up to the point they did it.As any Israeli would have ( rightly ) been taught from the earliest age.On that note stuff the PC bs.I’d prefer to take the Israeli view of how to deal with the Islamic problem. :unamused:

robroy:
I also never mentioned the words ‘knee jerk reaction’ you seem to imply I did :neutral_face:

Nope. Sorry if you thought that. Was a reply to others who had suggested it.

I think the frozen chap was just trying to add some balance to the discussion, in all fairness.

For any home grown Jihadis or those that took those citizenship courses, I say bring back hanging for high treason. My barbaric self really wants hanging drawing and quartering, with the spiking of heads in a prominent public place you understand.
Those thick religious preachers need a bit of the old burning at the stake for heresy while we’re at it. Sometimes the oldest methods are the best. :wink:

wont do any good closing the borders,they have in their country[I am assuming]what was known to us during the northern Ireland troubles as lillywhites [I think I am right]muslim extremists who were born in france or moved there years ago as wardaddy states,home grown jihadies,probably don’t even know how many reside there,they will just keep popping up commiting atrocities,and slinking back to their little rat holes if they survive,its a no win situation for the French,the French will have to do something really drastic now to safeguard their citizens

Carryfast:
the idea of forcible conversion or takeover is one of the religion’s aims and duties on its followers
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Carryfast mate, I know you are an authority on…well every ■■■■ thing, so is this the ‘‘Koran according to Carryfast’’ or an actual fact?

eagerbeaver:
I think the frozen chap was just trying to add some balance to the discussion, in all fairness.

We’ve had enough ‘balance’ already on the pro immigration side.which has so far let in people like Abu Hamza and Emwazi etc and had the nerve to call them ‘British’.In addition to now having caused the latest example.As it stands we need to arrest people like zb Merkel and Hollande and sideline all their supporters and then take the Israeli type line on the Islamist cause.

I don’t think the Israeli’s are doing that well on the peace side of things though CF.

robroy:

Carryfast:
the idea of forcible conversion or takeover is one of the religion’s aims and duties on its followers
:

Carryfast mate, I know you are an authority on…well every [zb] thing, so is this the ‘‘Koran according to Carryfast’’ or an actual fact?

I’d guess that’s a reasonable description of the IDF’s take on the definition of ‘Jihad’ which sounds good enough to me.As I said the apologist line is getting so old it’s starting to stink. :imp: :unamused:

eagerbeaver:
I don’t think the Israeli’s are doing that well on the peace side of things though CF.

But they are doing a better job of defending their people and controlling their national borders.All on the basis of a jus sanguinis definition of nationality. :bulb:

Wardaddy:
For any home grown Jihadis or those that took those citizenship courses, I say bring back hanging for high treason. My barbaric self really wants hanging drawing and quartering, with the spiking of heads in a prominent public place you understand.
Those thick religious preachers need a bit of the old burning at the stake for heresy while we’re at it. Sometimes the oldest methods are the best. :wink:

Yeh, then that makes us as bad as them.
Part of their problem is that they still have values more at home with the times of the Crusades…it’s what seperates us from them.