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nick2008:

GORDON 50:
it really was an eye opener, we went out for the morning on bikes, bearing in mind that bikes do not have indicators, mirrors, rain protection, we all (well most of us) realised just
how difficult it can be to cycle in busy streets PROPERLY (looking behind, indicating, road positioning, avoiding potholes and manhole covers etc) things that I just never thought about, and I can now see why some cyclists do the things that they do.

what like undertake when a bus or truck is turning LEFT :unamused:

No, they’re the suicide idiots, what I meant was things like changing course suddenly to avoid manhole s etc and why they might seem to ‘hog’ the middle of the road in order to turn right in the next few yards.
I’m not defending cyclists suicidal actions in any way, just saying that there’s a lot that we may not understand about their riding needs, just as they may not understand about ours.