We continue to provide these free driver CPC courses but demand is lower than expected, even though we are giving them away for free! Could anyone here advise me on which magazines would be a good place for us to advertise, ie industry mags read by lorry drivers and operators, fleet managers etc.
many thanks if you can help
Richard Evans
Richard Evans:
We continue to provide these free driver CPC courses but demand is lower than expected, even though we are giving them away for free! Could anyone here advise me on which magazines would be a good place for us to advertise, ie industry mags read by lorry drivers and operators, fleet managers etc.many thanks if you can help
Richard Evans
The vast majority of drivers will be working on the days you are running the courses Richard, that will be a major factor in the low uptake I think.
44 Tonne Ton:
The vast majority of drivers will be working on the days you are running the courses Richard, that will be a major factor in the low uptake I think.
fair point although we did offer a Saturday course recently and had to cancel it due to lack of interest… we can train on any day of the week if there is the demand for it, and we can even take the course to you if you can fill it with 20 drivers
Richard Evans:
44 Tonne Ton:
The vast majority of drivers will be working on the days you are running the courses Richard, that will be a major factor in the low uptake I think.fair point although we did offer a Saturday course recently and had to cancel it due to lack of interest… we can train on any day of the week if there is the demand for it, and we can even take the course to you if you can fill it with 20 drivers
I didn’t know you did one at the weekend. All I can say is some people don’t know a bargain when they see one! I have made enquiries for one of the days on offer. I think different classes of road users have to understand each others needs a bit better.
44 Tonne Ton:
I think different classes of road users have to understand each others needs a bit better.
I totally agree, and that is the whole point of our course, I look forward to meeting you.
RE
another so called driver trainer being funded through TFL and boris, cant even give it away so funding will stop
Our free driver CPC offer is still available in Fulham and we now have training dates set through to March 2013/14.
Click here for further details
I look forward to taking your bookings.
Richard Evans:
Our free driver CPC offer is still available in Fulham and we now have training dates set through to March 2013/14.Click here for further details
I look forward to taking your bookings.
I have sent the link to our firm, hope they take you up on this great offer.
yuppie:
I have sent the link to our firm, hope they take you up on this great offer.
thanks, and you are welcome to put yourself onto the course, you do not have to do it through the firm you work for
shep532:
trucks are needed, the cyclists aren’t.
I need my bicycle to get to my truck! I wish that some of my local councils were as enlightened as Hammersmith and Fulham.
Including actual cycling sounds interesting has to be more interesting than the Vulnerable Road Users thingy I have just undertaken and I trust you will have adequate insurance
to cover any lorry driver squashed flat by a fellow lorry driver while out cycling.Transport mags are not the most popular rag on the newstand you might want to save your money,word of
mouth might work and being on here is a start.Stick a poster on lamposts around London might be another option…
If a lorry driver cycling on the course is killed in an accident with a lorry then it is likely that either or both of the lorry drivers will be to blame.
Im sure the course organisers will not tell anyone to ride under a lorry, and anyone who holds an LGV licence should be capable of handling a pushbike unless there’s something physically or mentally wrong with them
Don’t worry, cycling is relatively safe, even safer than walking or using the bathroom 
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Hexhome:
Don’t worry, cycling is relatively safe, even safer than walking or using the bathroom
very true that, reminds me of this short piece on risk I kept from The Guardian some years ago…
How to be Safe
by Guy Browning
It’s a dangerous world out there and safety should be our number one priority. Always take a few moments to familiarise yourself with the nearest emergency exits, even when you are travelling by bicycle.
Nature is a born killer – ice, floods and volcanoes are a continual threat. Even a stiff wind can dessicate you like a coconut. These risks can be much reduced by telling people where you’re going and wearing a reflective band.
Stalkers are another modern danger. The person on the other side of this newspaper could have been following you around for years, going through your laundry and opening your letters (okay, they may be married to you, but that’s just a good cover).
Driving is incredibly dangerous, as almost all deaths on the road involve a car. If you insist on driving, pre-inflate all airbags, wear a cycle helmet and drive defensively, preferably on the pavement. Whether you have a baby on board or not, have a sticker in the back window as these can substantially reduce the impact of being rear-ended by a 40-ton truck.
In safety terms, it is obviously extremely foolhardy to live on, or anywhere near, the edge. Life is a like a platform – if you get too close to the edge you’re likely to be hit by someone opening their door. Stand well behind the yellow line of life, or preferably in the designated waiting area.
Ideally, wear a cycle helmet and adopt a brace position. Normally, you’d be better off staying at home were it not for the fact that most deaths occur in the home. Remember that water and electricity don’t mix, so turn off the lights when you’re in the bath and don’t buy electricity from your water company. Wear a cycle helmet in the bath.
The average garden shed is chock full of instruments of death. If you buy a lawnmower, insist on airbags, roll-bars and side-impact protection. When mowing, wear a cycle helmet.
All domestic animals are stiff with rabies, tetanus and lasser fever. Keep them under observation for six months before letting them into the house. Remember, too, that animals are essentially savage, and in the wild a hamster is an attack animal. Before petting, wear a chain mail/biological warfare suit.
One of the main risks to life these days is death. By taking a few sensible precautions, this unnecessary risk can be avoided; check the nearest available exits, wear a cycle helmet, and assume the brace position.
© Guy Browning
The Guardian, April 22, 2000
Our interest is getting as many lorry drivers who are either based or drive regularly in Hammersmith & Fulham to take this training course, and ultimately to cut the terrible death toll in London arising from lorry/cyclist collisions. We have already run successful courses for the Serco drivers who drive our refuse lorries.
4 deaths last year involved Buses / coach’s
Boris Johnson has shrugged off calls for an urgent review of cycling safety in London after a man killed on Wednesday night became the fifth cyclist to die in the capital in nine days. The London mayor said that unless people obeyed the laws of the road, “there’s no amount of traffic engineering that we invest in that is going to save people’s lives”.
Discussing the deaths in a radio interview on Thursday morning, Johnson said that while there could be “no question of blame or finger-pointing”, cyclists had a duty to obey the laws of the road and heed signals.
The London assembly member Darren Johnson, of the Green party, accused the mayor of “dodging responsibility” for the recent deaths and trying to blame cyclists.
“Four out of the five deaths of cyclists in the last nine days have involved either his blue paint or his red buses,” said Johnson, in a reference to the blue-painted cycle superhighways.
“The mayor’s comments this morning which targeted cyclists breaking the law as the primary cause of death and serious injury is an attempt to blame the victims, rather than tackling the real problem of HGVs, buses and dangerous junctions.”
rather than tackling the real problem of HGVs, buses and dangerous junctions.
This last part is of interest … If your cycling in London or almost any city I assume it would be fair to say you cycle the same route on a regular basis… therefor it should be reasonable to expect the cyclist should know the dangers of junctions but still ignore the LAW of the road … having a green or blue what ever cycle lane is NOT going to protect anyone much the same as driving down the M1 at 70 in thick fog with your fog lights on will prevent you from having an accident …
It seams that as quoted in the article from November 2013
theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 … perhighway
Cyclists are the group of road users that need the educating after all its the CYCLIST that’s in danger and its only when the dirty stinking big Lorry or Bus is involved the news picks up on this…
I would like to see the figures for accidents involving cyclists as to What vehicles were involved and who was to blame IE actual prosecutions …
Armagedon:
here is a start.Stick a poster on lamposts around London might be another option…
More crap causing blind spots at junctions yeah carry on ( sarcasm ) 
I did this course yesterday, with all the usual preconceptions about “it won’t do any good to me, I’m an experienced driver, what can it teach me” etc.
But it really was an eye opener, we went out for the morning on bikes, bearing in mind that bikes do not have indicators, mirrors, rain protection, we all (well most of us) realised just
how difficult it can be to cycle in busy streets PROPERLY (looking behind, indicating, road positioning, avoiding potholes and manhole covers etc) things that I just never thought about, and I can now see why some cyclists do the things that they do.
There’s no doubt that a lot of drivers on here are also cyclists and they’ll understand what I’m on about, and there will always be the dodgey cyclists who will always put themselves in danger by going between trucks and railings and ducking and diving etc, but we ALL have to use the roads, cyclists are not going to go away, and neither will trucks, so we just have to all share the roads as best as we can without killing anyone, and I honestly think that yesterdays course is a step in the right direction, although I would like to see some sort of compulsory training/ educating for cyclists as well, but that would be difficult as bikes are not registered so enforcing anything on them is practically impossible.
The other half of the day was spent in the classroom, usual stuff about urban driving which we mostly knew anyway but still kind of interesting, good instructor, plenty of laughs, good banter etc.
And because I’m self employed it’s down to me to pay for my own DCPC so from a value for money point of view it was 100%.
Thanks to all involved, from H & F council to instructors and other participants, a day well spent.
GORDON 50:
it really was an eye opener, we went out for the morning on bikes, bearing in mind that bikes do not have indicators, mirrors, rain protection, we all (well most of us) realised just
how difficult it can be to cycle in busy streets PROPERLY (looking behind, indicating, road positioning, avoiding potholes and manhole covers etc) things that I just never thought about, and I can now see why some cyclists do the things that they do.
what like undertake when a bus or truck is turning LEFT 
GORDON 50:
I did this course yesterday, with all the usual preconceptions about “it won’t do any good to me, I’m an experienced driver, what can it teach me” etc… Thanks to all involved, from H & F council to instructors and other participants, a day well spent.
Thanks Gordon that’s really good to hear that feedback. We have just got our funding allocation for 2014/15 SUD courses, I’m glad to say that others too think we are doing good work and we can fund a further 30 courses at our base in Fulham. In anticipation of high demand before the September deadline we are running 4 per month until September, then one per month after that. All the dates are listed on this website, then phone with credit card ready to book, still just £8.75 - including free lunch!