just a couple of questions , can you run france on a sunday with exhibition goods on or do you need a permit and also can you go into department 75 in paris in an artic is there any time restrictions or permits for this
mad monk:
just a couple of questions , can you run france on a sunday with exhibition goods on
No.
mad monk:
or do you need a permit
For vehicles carrying goods that don’t come within the scope of the permanent derogations, permits are normally only issued for a transport operation that is considered ‘indispensable and urgent.’ Exhibitions are built up over a period of several days, if not weeks, so I doubt it would be considered urgent.
mad monk:
and also can you go into department 75 in paris in an artic is there any time restrictions or permits for this
With the exception of the Peripherique and the Boulevard des Marechaux where there are no restriction, except dangerous goods, access to and the transit of Paris by trucks are restricted as follows.
Main roads from 07:30 - 09:30 and 16:30 - 19:30
All other roads form 07:30 - 19:30 for vehicles with a floor area > 24m2
from 16:30 - 19:30 for vehicles with a floor area between 16m2 to 24m2
The floor area for an artic is that of the trailer.
In the past I have done several deliveries of telecoms equipment or computer systems into area 75 in an artic, we usually
had a permit to allow this, organised by the client.
thanks for that mate . have been told that with exhibition goods on you can do virtually anything you like . i know that i occasionally do airfreight on a sunday to or from charles de gaulle and for that we run on a permit , a few of the things ive been told about running expos are you can run in any ban , you do not need a cmr as the goods come under fairground rules whatever that means …
mad monk:
have been told that with exhibition goods on you can do virtually anything you like.
Not true.
mad monk:
a few of the things ive been told about running expos are you can run in any ban
There is no mention of exhibition goods the list of exemptions in any of the information regarding truck restrictions I have. I’ve lost count of the amount of exhibition work I have done over the last 17 years and I have never heard of it being exempt.
mad monk:
you do not need a cmr as the goods come under fairground rules whatever that means …
It would depend on whether the transporter was doing it for hire and reward or not. If the goods are their own and they are taking them to the exhibition for their own stand then no CMR would be needed, as is normal for any own account operation. If it is someone else’s goods, then they would. There are only three types of transport for hire and reward to which the CMR Convention doesn’t apply.
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Carriage performed under the terms of any international postal convention.
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Funeral consignments.
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Furniture removals.
You do not want to get caught in France without a CMR, they treat it as a very serious offence with very large fines.
I do a fair bit of expo work and there is no exemption for running on sundays (although you tend to get away with it if you put it in a fridge trailer
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the trouble with this job is you hear so many rumours and so much crap on ferries or weekended wherever , i allways make out a cmr for the goods if one is not supplied the only exception being i used to drive for an international vehicle recovery firm collecting accident or stolen recovered vehicles from all over and we never used cmrs or t docs or anything but thats because we were re patriating them to the uk . picked up a crashed car in romania and got stuck on the border for 2 days because the owner of the car flew home with the log book , was nearly arrested for refusing to sign a hungarian document but i NEVER sign anything i dont understand or cant translate . in the end after a change of shift the new customs official was helpfull after sampling scottish whiskey