muckles:
Hammer, I haven’t seen anything from the media saying. They believe the 2 men were racing.
After the incident the dvsa and the police went into the company premisises to check the records kept by the company. No doubt both maintenance and drive hours records have examined, they’ve now arrested both men, one the driver the other the company owner. No doubt to get on record answers to questions arising from the incident and subsequent investigation.
Carryfast. we don’t know what happened, why the brakes failed, or if it was a manual or auto, but you’ve gone on about this for pages without any knowledge of the actual incident or any knowledge of using modern auto transmissions, and using no more evidence than you own prejudice. Give it a rest please.
Assuming they’ve found any incriminating evidence regards the truck’s maintenance and use then why not just charge the possible defendants at that point so everyone knows where they stand.If not then surely it is all at the same point as the Scottish dump truck situation was.In which case no need for the arrests and naming and shaming agenda in the media.
As for modern autos assuming no engine braking facility ( doubtful ) then as I said charge the defendants and then at least the driver’s defence representation can also put that to the court depending on information regarding why the thing actually ran away.
You’ve spent most of the best part of 14 pages, telling us your views on modern training and braking, we’ve read it, we get your point. No more to say until there is more information.
muckles:
Hammer, I haven’t seen anything from the media saying. They believe the 2 men were racing.
After the incident the dvsa and the police went into the company premisises to check the records kept by the company. No doubt both maintenance and drive hours records have examined, they’ve now arrested both men, one the driver the other the company owner. No doubt to get on record answers to questions arising from the incident and subsequent investigation.
Carryfast. we don’t know what happened, why the brakes failed, or if it was a manual or auto, but you’ve gone on about this for pages without any knowledge of the actual incident or any knowledge of using modern auto transmissions, and using no more evidence than you own prejudice. Give it a rest please.
Assuming they’ve found any incriminating evidence regards the truck’s maintenance and use then why not just charge the possible defendants at that point so everyone knows where they stand.If not then surely it is all at the same point as the Scottish dump truck situation was.In which case no need for the arrests and naming and shaming agenda in the media.
As for modern autos assuming no engine braking facility ( doubtful ) then as I said charge the defendants and then at least the driver’s defence representation can also put that to the court depending on information regarding why the thing actually ran away.
You’ve spent most of the best part of 14 pages, telling us your views on modern training and braking, we’ve read it, we get your point. No more to say until there is more information.
Great so the law and media should obviously be working to the same agenda.IE no one actually knows conclusively why the thing ran away yet.So obviously no need for any accusations by the law and media of potential criminality.
muckles:
Hammer, I haven’t seen anything from the media saying. They believe the 2 men were racing.
After the incident the dvsa and the police went into the company premisises to check the records kept by the company. No doubt both maintenance and drive hours records have examined, they’ve now arrested both men, one the driver the other the company owner. No doubt to get on record answers to questions arising from the incident and subsequent investigation.
Carryfast. we don’t know what happened, why the brakes failed, or if it was a manual or auto, but you’ve gone on about this for pages without any knowledge of the actual incident or any knowledge of using modern auto transmissions, and using no more evidence than you own prejudice. Give it a rest please.
Assuming they’ve found any incriminating evidence regards the truck’s maintenance and use then why not just charge the possible defendants at that point so everyone knows where they stand.If not then surely it is all at the same point as the Scottish dump truck situation was.In which case no need for the arrests and naming and shaming agenda in the media.
As for modern autos assuming no engine braking facility ( doubtful ) then as I said charge the defendants and then at least the driver’s defence representation can also put that to the court depending on information regarding why the thing actually ran away.
You’ve spent most of the best part of 14 pages, telling us your views on modern training and braking, we’ve read it, we get your point. No more to say until there is more information.
I’d love to hear more. I dont think I got it in the brief few posts. Ignore them CF, tell me more. You hold back too much son. Explain gears to sow, brakes to bake again?
Freight Dog:
I’d love to hear more. I dont think I got it in the brief few posts. Ignore them CF, tell me more. You hold back too much son. Explain gears to sow, brakes to bake again?
If I’ve read it right you fly a heavy plane ? so think of it a bit like being instructed not to use reverse thrust after landing and just use the brakes based on the idea that modern linings have magic abilities and you’ve got ABS.
Freight Dog:
I’d love to hear more. I dont think I got it in the brief few posts. Ignore them CF, tell me more. You hold back too much son. Explain gears to sow, brakes to bake again?
If I’ve read it right you fly a heavy plane ? so think of it a bit like being instructed not to use reverse thrust after landing and just use the brakes based on the idea that modern linings have magic abilities and you’ve got ABS.
Sorry CF, I was just teasing. I do know what you’re saying, just bantering with your persistance in putting the point across.
puntabrava:
It seems strange that on the radio news all they seem to mention is the death of the four year old girl and in some reports nothing of the three Welsh men.
If the tipper did not come to a stop where it did, it could of ended up in the city centre, with more fatalities.
Cue CF and 22 pages on brakes and an Erf twin splitter gear box, with a man with a wooden leg who drove on Middle Eastern work 150 years ago.
Dvsa would now know how the tipper failed, we won’t know why until the court case, which could be a year away yet.
Cue CF on braking systems and the Dsa.
You are getting boring now CF.
toby1234abc:
Why the gross negligence ? He used the horn to warn people, and didn’t wake up that
morning intending to mow everyone down on purpose.
Maybe the gross negligence is because his steering was supposedly perfectly fine and yet managed to killed a wee lassie on the pavement.
It needs like some sort of computer model reconstruction of the event to see if he could have avoided that.
You don’t wake in the morning intending to kill anyone but if your direct actions or in-actions lead to the deaths of people that could have been otherwise avoided then that is negligence, manslaughter whatever you want to call it.
