Fork lift accident

It was on Bbc 1 Helicopter Heroes.A supermarket staff member was run over by a fork lift.
Her legs were trapped.
When the air ambulance landed in the car park,the security guard approached the rotor blades,unaware that when the blades slow down they dip to head height.
Not sure why the fire brigade did not use another fork lift to lift the other one up?
Over to TNUKCSI.

The guard probably wanted to make sure the pilot had steel toe caps and a high viz vest on, and was going to hand in the keys to the chopper and sit in the drivers’ waiting room while the Supermarket staff got around to loading the helicopter.

Whenever possible we use our own equipment, and on that occasion by using an airbag either side of the forklift, could guarantee an even steady lift.

It’s only a matter of time until we all have to dress like medieval knights then if this H&S carries on.

When happened to the man approaching the helicopter? You’d think somebody would wait for them anyway.

Good point Cracker Bar.I did wonder how the shop lady did not see the fork lift.
And it appeared she was wearing in-store uniform and no hiviz,so why was she in the goods in yard ?
No reversing beeper on the fork lift.?
When limbs get trapped,toxins build up and when released the toxins give the victim a heart attack.
A fireman told me a man was trapped under a car when a ramp collapsed.
With severe injuries,the only dangerous part is when they pull you out.
As the ramp on the body acted like a block to stop the blood coming out.

The medic in the left seat of the chopper waved his hands and arms to warn the guard to stay away from the rotating blades.
The guard took no notice and kept walking.
The medic had to open the side window and fire a round of [zb]s in to the thick guard.
But he was wearing a hiviz which prevents getting beheaded by blades.
The chopper did not pay the parking charges.
The pilot was told to wait four hours for his paperwork,i made that bit up!

Ok then…

I’m afraid the days of the fire service using firemanship skills to carry out rescues has long gone. It’s all H&S and standard operating procedures these days.

There were several fork lifts in the goods in yard.Or they had flat batteries or the fire brigade have no certificate to be qualified to operate one.?She was wedged under it behind the wheels.Artery damage and flesh bursting wounds.
The chopper is still there.Not tipped yet.It was Morrisons. :smiley:

smokinbarrels:
I’m afraid the days of the fire service using firemanship skills to carry out rescues has long gone. It’s all H&S and standard operating procedures these days.

I have to take issue with you on that SB. Yes we do sometimes get hamstrung by h&s ■■■■■■■■ but, unless a life is literally hanging in the balance, a measured response with considered actions is the best way to deal with most situations. In the example given above, the forklift was of the twinned central steer wheel type, had that been dude lifted by another forklift it would have most likely toppled over, potentially injuring yet more people, and causing damage to equipment.

I was pointing out that what people expect from the fire service and what the fire service actually does are two different things. Even when a life is hanging in the balance the fire service gets caught up in all that H&S rubbish.

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cracker-bar:

smokinbarrels:
I’m afraid the days of the fire service using firemanship skills to carry out rescues has long gone. It’s all H&S and standard operating procedures these days.

I have to take issue with you on that SB. Yes we do sometimes get hamstrung by h&s ■■■■■■■■ but, unless a life is literally hanging in the balance, a measured response with considered actions is the best way to deal with most situations.

As I’m sure that poor Scottish lady who fell down that hole would testify. If only she were alive to do so.

There was a report that the Police could not jump in to a pond or lake, because they had not carried out a risk assesment or got trained for water rescues.
If somebody was drowning.Tough.

i suppose the emergency services train it out of you, not to rush in regardless , such as when you come across a person screaming for help from a burning building . it would be interesting to see how they do this , im thinking they likely use psychological techniques in the training period . however i do believe that some rescues could be done using speed and quick thinking /the daredevil mindset ,but from what i see on tv this is not how its done now

i know in the military they use sleep deprevation to break down the mind,and then it allows them to brainwash recruits to accept without question orders to obey ,to imprint it deeply in the mind

The problem would come if vosa waded in to add their high viz hat wearing self important spoke. The heli pilot would be buggered for setting his tacho on break whilst clearly doing other work waving people away from the blades. They’d all have to all sit the whilst he has his fifteen, or is that a thirty? Maybe technically he’s on a bay and has to hover 50 years away to be off site and take it.

cracker-bar:
Whenever possible we use our own equipment, and on that occasion by using an airbag either side of the forklift, could guarantee an even steady lift.

I dont care how you do it Cracker-bar because your colleagues saved
my life after a bad accident so just keep doing what your doing.
A big thumbs up and an even bigger thank you from me.

The fire brigade are a unique bunch.Calm and cool.Years ago a road fuel tanker was forced to mount the kerb on a pavement to avoid an oncoming overtaking car.
The tanker tipped over and crushed a car killing a young lad.His Mum and brother survived.
When you see a priest at a Rtc/Rta, you know that is not good.At farm fires,the fire station land rover would ferry takeways to the crews working all night at a barn fire.Thumbs up to them.
Another fatal Rtc/Rta,was a French motorcyclist who had overtaken a car but forgot which side of the road he was on and crashed in to a National Express coach.Being buried under the coach,the biker was hosed down as there was not much left of him.
In France,the fire engine is also an ambulance.
Sapiers Pompiers.
A large long wheel base van full of rescue kit,fire kit and a fully equiped ambulance with stretchers.This will never happen in the UK.It must save money.

I wouldn’t be too sure on that Toby, we’re already hearing noises about how the govt would like to see a single blue light service. I have no idea how it would work though, as we all work so differently.

It’s looking more like the privatisation of the fire service is on it’s way.