For those who moan about self tipping

graemem106:
The worst I’ve had was an amazon rdc near Birmingham 26 pallets to come off stuck in a scabby drivers room with a broken vending machine for 7 hours no food only some luke warm water and a TV with jerremy kyle on and of course I had decided to lock my cab before handing my keys in its an absolute joke of a place I couldn’t believe a company could treat workers as badly as that if I ever and up doing another amazon again the can will be staying unlocked and I will be hoping for a site ban for waiting in my cab! !

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Frankly, a situation like that should be against the law…

TiredAndEmotional:

graemem106:
The worst I’ve had was an amazon rdc near Birmingham 26 pallets to come off stuck in a scabby drivers room with a broken vending machine for 7 hours no food only some luke warm water and a TV with jerremy kyle on and of course I had decided to lock my cab before handing my keys in its an absolute joke of a place I couldn’t believe a company could treat workers as badly as that if I ever and up doing another amazon again the can will be staying unlocked and I will be hoping for a site ban for waiting in my cab! !

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Frankly, a situation like that should be against the law…

Why, it’s only half a shift? :laughing:

graemem106:
The worst I’ve had was an amazon rdc near Birmingham 26 pallets to come off stuck in a scabby drivers room with a broken vending machine for 7 hours no food only some luke warm water and a TV with jerremy kyle on and of course I had decided to lock my cab before handing my keys in its an absolute joke of a place I couldn’t believe a company could treat workers as badly as that if I ever and up doing another amazon again the can will be staying unlocked and I will be hoping for a site ban for waiting in my cab! !

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I do a lot of Amazon sites, and I can confirm 3 hours is often the norm if tipping and reloading. Those waiting rooms stink of toilets, and unwashed Johhny flip flop trampers, and the chairs are cheap uncomfortable plastic ones, and there is an increase of drivers thinking it’s ok to watch films and tv loudly on their phones without earphones. Soul destroying to say the least. Luckily, a few sites don’t notice if you slope off back to your cab. One or two of them know, but don’t care. The site at Hemel (which is now fulfilled by a new one at Dunstable) had (and still has) a portakabin with 4 broken chairs, and 2 stinking toilet cubicles inside it. I used to wait outside, even in -5 degrees. The waiting room round the back at Weybridge is a collection of cheap plastic chairs in the warehouse (signed “driver holding area”), next to a speaker stolen from a nightclub being played at full volume by the kids that run the place.

I often ask if I can tip myself at their sites, or help tip, and always get told “my supervisor’s in, and won’t allow it, he’s a bit funny”. So I’m often sitting for an hour waiting for 3 pallets to come off.

To get an idea of how soul destroying Amazon waiting rooms are, if I’m on Tesco RDC work for a night, I feel a sense of relief, as if I’ve won a perverse jackpot,because their waiting rooms are a tad comfier and nicer than Amazon’s. How sad is that?

ezydriver:

graemem106:
The worst I’ve had was an amazon rdc near Birmingham 26 pallets to come off stuck in a scabby drivers room with a broken vending machine for 7 hours no food only some luke warm water and a TV with jerremy kyle on and of course I had decided to lock my cab before handing my keys in its an absolute joke of a place I couldn’t believe a company could treat workers as badly as that if I ever and up doing another amazon again the can will be staying unlocked and I will be hoping for a site ban for waiting in my cab! !

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I do a lot of Amazon sites, and I can confirm 3 hours is often the norm if tipping and reloading. Those waiting rooms stink of toilets, and unwashed Johhny flip flop trampers, and the chairs are cheap uncomfortable plastic ones, and there is an increase of drivers thinking it’s ok to watch films and tv loudly on their phones without earphones. Soul destroying to say the least. Luckily, a few sites don’t notice if you slope off back to your cab. One or two of them know, but don’t care. The site at Hemel (which is now fulfilled by a new one at Dunstable) had (and still has) a portakabin with 4 broken chairs, and 2 stinking toilet cubicles inside it. I used to wait outside, even in -5 degrees. The waiting room round the back at Weybridge is a collection of cheap plastic chairs in the warehouse (signed “driver holding area”), next to a speaker stolen from a nightclub being played at full volume by the kids that run the place.

I often ask if I can tip myself at their sites, or help tip, and always get told “my supervisor’s in, and won’t allow it, he’s a bit funny”. So I’m often sitting for an hour waiting for 3 pallets to come off.

To get an idea of how soul destroying Amazon waiting rooms are, if I’m on Tesco RDC work for a night, I feel a sense of relief, as if I’ve won a perverse jackpot,because their waiting rooms are a tad comfier and nicer than Amazon’s. How sad is that?

Maybe lie by telling them you’re taking a split daily rest anyway so stuff the driver’s ‘holding area’ and if needed dropping the trailer.Then if they finish the job sooner than at least the three hours then tell them you won’t be needing it after all. :bulb: :smiling_imp:

ezydriver:

graemem106:
The worst I’ve had was an amazon rdc near Birmingham 26 pallets to come off stuck in a scabby drivers room with a broken vending machine for 7 hours no food only some luke warm water and a TV with jerremy kyle on and of course I had decided to lock my cab before handing my keys in its an absolute joke of a place I couldn’t believe a company could treat workers as badly as that if I ever and up doing another amazon again the can will be staying unlocked and I will be hoping for a site ban for waiting in my cab! !

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I do a lot of Amazon sites, and I can confirm 3 hours is often the norm if tipping and reloading. Those waiting rooms stink of toilets, and unwashed Johhny flip flop trampers, and the chairs are cheap uncomfortable plastic ones, and there is an increase of drivers thinking it’s ok to watch films and tv loudly on their phones without earphones. Soul destroying to say the least. Luckily, a few sites don’t notice if you slope off back to your cab. One or two of them know, but don’t care. The site at Hemel (which is now fulfilled by a new one at Dunstable) had (and still has) a portakabin with 4 broken chairs, and 2 stinking toilet cubicles inside it. I used to wait outside, even in -5 degrees. The waiting room round the back at Weybridge is a collection of cheap plastic chairs in the warehouse (signed “driver holding area”), next to a speaker stolen from a nightclub being played at full volume by the kids that run the place.

I often ask if I can tip myself at their sites, or help tip, and always get told “my supervisor’s in, and won’t allow it, he’s a bit funny”. So I’m often sitting for an hour waiting for 3 pallets to come off.

To get an idea of how soul destroying Amazon waiting rooms are, if I’m on Tesco RDC work for a night, I feel a sense of relief, as if I’ve won a perverse jackpot,because their waiting rooms are a tad comfier and nicer than Amazon’s. How sad is that?

Joke isn’t it.

Again though, I’d rather self tip than have to sit in conditions like that!

I rather self tip, I get bored easy and it helps keep the fat off :laughing:

Rowley010:
Last Saturday morning I tipped at aldi, booked for 6am but got on a bay at 05:30am, tipped my self, out and home.

Now sat at Argos, 14:30 booking, arrived at 13:53, been sat on a bay since 14:20 and it’s now 17:15 and the only thing goods in will tell me is that it will be a while yet. Mid week it wouldnt bother me as much but when your wanting to get home, I know which id rather do. Tip myself as quick as I can rather than wait over 3 hours for someone else to do it!

Argos was one of my regular drops back on Matchbox, I would spend all day or at least the afternoon as they took their time, I got to know some of the staff very well over the years and learned that they took their time in a deliberate effort to make sure the load took them to the end of each shift and they wouldn’t have to start another load.

Come over here and see how it’s done … You get to a distribution centre, you are given a bay then they expect you to pay them to unload your trailer, if you complain you will get treated in various ways, you either get turned away , they will threaten you and as most of the groups of unloaders (lumpers) are run and protected by organized crime they mean what they say or they will just leave you on the bay until you give in. The charge can be over $400.00 :astonished:

ezydriver:

graemem106:
The worst I’ve had was an amazon rdc near Birmingham 26 pallets to come off stuck in a scabby drivers room with a broken vending machine for 7 hours no food only some luke warm water and a TV with jerremy kyle on and of course I had decided to lock my cab before handing my keys in its an absolute joke of a place I couldn’t believe a company could treat workers as badly as that if I ever and up doing another amazon again the can will be staying unlocked and I will be hoping for a site ban for waiting in my cab! !

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I do a lot of Amazon sites, and I can confirm 3 hours is often the norm if tipping and reloading. Those waiting rooms stink of toilets, and unwashed Johhny flip flop trampers, and the chairs are cheap uncomfortable plastic ones, and there is an increase of drivers thinking it’s ok to watch films and tv loudly on their phones without earphones. Soul destroying to say the least. Luckily, a few sites don’t notice if you slope off back to your cab. One or two of them know, but don’t care. The site at Hemel (which is now fulfilled by a new one at Dunstable) had (and still has) a portakabin with 4 broken chairs, and 2 stinking toilet cubicles inside it. I used to wait outside, even in -5 degrees. The waiting room round the back at Weybridge is a collection of cheap plastic chairs in the warehouse (signed “driver holding area”), next to a speaker stolen from a nightclub being played at full volume by the kids that run the place.

I often ask if I can tip myself at their sites, or help tip, and always get told “my supervisor’s in, and won’t allow it, he’s a bit funny”. So I’m often sitting for an hour waiting for 3 pallets to come off.

To get an idea of how soul destroying Amazon waiting rooms are, if I’m on Tesco RDC work for a night, I feel a sense of relief, as if I’ve won a perverse jackpot,because their waiting rooms are a tad comfier and nicer than Amazon’s. How sad is that?

As far as I remember I have done an Amazon only once, about 10 yrs ago, …Burton on Trent area? or it could have been around Oxford,.can’t remember, who knows…who cares :smiley: .

Anyway I remember some ■■■■ cage effect waiting room, I thought sod this and sneaked back to my cab for a kip.
Woke up an hour or so later just as this officious little ■■■■ with a hi viz was walking past.
I got the ‘’ Company rules’’ routine off him, and I replied with my usual disinterested ‘‘Yeh, just whatever mate’’

On return to waiting room you would have thought a major crime had been committed , and they were having some kind of public enquiry based inquest with each other, chaired by this hi viz ■■■■■■ :laughing: .

After being tipped (eventually) I was told that my firm was being informed, (as if that was supposed to phase me :unamused: ) I just said ‘‘Do whatever makes you happy mate, but just give me my keys so I can get to ■■■■ out of this ■■■■ hole’’
As far as I know my co was not contacted, nor would they have been bothered anyway tbh.
Goes to show how far these pricks are up their own arses with their illusions of importance, blisfully unaware that no one really gives a ■■■■.

As for unhospitable waiting rooms, why do bodies such as the RHA or whoever not step in and complain, or driver’s unions.
Maybe some display of displeasure with these arse hole types might trigger some minimal improvements off? Or maybe not.

Several TV programmes recently showing what a hard time warehouse operatives have at companies such as Amazon.Maybe the producers should be pointed towards the "rest areas"that delivery drivers are expected to use.

The places that seem to take the longest to tip you - are those places where the drivers are not even allowed inside. Leave the loading to indoor staff assigned to “loaders” - and one runs the risk always of turning up "just as they are going for a break/changing shift/unloading another “more important” consignment.

There would be no such thing as a hard drive - if computer code were written in a similar way to proverbally “tip data” of a disk.

This leads me to believe that a better way to organize tipping of incoming vehicles would be to tip them upon arrival on a dedicated bay that under no circumstances are you allowed to take a break on. Not even a quick 15 minute one… That way, the longest one can ever wait when arriving “Outside the window time” which foreign trucks in particular are notorious for - is 15 mins!

3-4 hour tip waits - bad organization put in place by bad management listening to daft EU H&S rules that they have given priority to, without thinking how much a bad implementation of those rules - will lose the company.

Big firms are a money pit. No one cares.

Even at Aldi - it’s left to the driver to do any caring. Self-tip works then, providing you don’t find yourself in a jammed-packed unloading dock with nowhere to put the stuff you’re trying to tip… No staff about to ask anything of, and a tight window to get to your next drop/knocking off time/out of hours threshold. :frowning:

Winseer:
3-4 hour tip waits - bad organization put in place by bad management listening to daft EU H&S rules that they have given priority to, without thinking how much a bad implementation of those rules - will lose the company.

Please tell us exactly which H&S rules that are related to tipping trailers have been introduced as a result of the UK’s membership of the EU.

Rowley010:
All I’m getting at is that there are pros and cons to self tip. There’s the whole not my job argument which I’m not getting in to. Then there’s the point I’m making that SOMETIMES self tip can be a pro because it puts you in control of doing it rather than waiting on others and not getting any answers from an office when your battling against the clock. This Friday I would have preferred to just crack on and self tip and get home rather than waiting 3 hours for someone else to do it who doesn’t care that I want to go home.

what about loading? Do they give you a hand strapping. :unamused: they won’t even let you stand on the bed in some places. :imp: good job you’ve not got a flat, fly sheets and sheets then rope it up! WOULD they give you a hand? :bulb: nope. :open_mouth: self tips aka Lidl and Aldi take the pish! Morrisons, come in drive and split the load. Nope :grimacing:

Olog Hai:

Winseer:
3-4 hour tip waits - bad organization put in place by bad management listening to daft EU H&S rules that they have given priority to, without thinking how much a bad implementation of those rules - will lose the company.

Please tell us exactly which H&S rules that are related to tipping trailers have been introduced as a result of the UK’s membership of the EU.

POA :grimacing:

I had some fat manager bellend at Waitrose say to me I HAD to come an help split a pallet down and it’ll take less than an hour or it’ll be a 2 hour wait whilst they do it. Ha ha ha!

Took them half an hour on their own. Less time in fact for me to stop laughing inside my cab.

Just to annoy them I them took a thirty min extra break across from the bay with my feet up eating my noodles watching television.

Olog Hai:

Winseer:
3-4 hour tip waits - bad organization put in place by bad management listening to daft EU H&S rules that they have given priority to, without thinking how much a bad implementation of those rules - will lose the company.

Please tell us exactly which H&S rules that are related to tipping trailers have been introduced as a result of the UK’s membership of the EU.

How about “can’t work more than 10 hours on nights” or “can’t work more than a 48 hour week” which strangely seems to be claimed by Dock Loading staff when you arrive at their store around 22:00 hours on a friday night… Basically, it’s a skivers charter. “Gotta comply, EU rules” I get told. “You can tip yourself.” “No can do” say I, “It’s also against EU driving law to self-tip whilst on Break, and alas, I’m on 4hrs 25 right now…” :stuck_out_tongue: :smiling_imp:

So I sit there for about 90 minutes, and await the night crew to start their shift, and they are always as ■■■■■■ off as hell to find themselves “carrying the last couple of hours of day late shift workers stuff” as usual.

Seen this happen at Sainsburys stores once too often. It’s bad enough at the other supermarkets, but Sainsburys really take the ■■■■ on their interpretation of “EU Law”.

As for “H&S” law - Apparently a driver blows up if he opts to do 11 hours on a night shift, because “There is no opt-out” I get told. So how do you get a 12x4 perfect working week on nights then, when I’m the only bugger prepared to work over 10 hours to start with, and it’s only me that doesn’t get a 4 day week?

The EU laws are so loosely worded, that interpreting them has become a kind of “Game of Thrones Intrigue” for drivers to take advantage of the junior staff… Count Agency as “The most Junior of All” of course. :unamused:

Winseer:
The places that seem to take the longest to tip you - are those places where the drivers are not even allowed inside. Leave the loading to indoor staff assigned to “loaders” - and one runs the risk always of turning up "just as they are going for a break/changing shift/unloading another “more important” consignment.

There would be no such thing as a hard drive - if computer code were written in a similar way to proverbally “tip data” of a disk.

This leads me to believe that a better way to organize tipping of incoming vehicles would be to tip them upon arrival on a dedicated bay that under no circumstances are you allowed to take a break on. Not even a quick 15 minute one… That way, the longest one can ever wait when arriving “Outside the window time” which foreign trucks in particular are notorious for - is 15 mins!

3-4 hour tip waits - bad organization put in place by bad management listening to daft EU H&S rules that they have given priority to, without thinking how much a bad implementation of those rules - will lose the company.

Big firms are a money pit. No one cares.

Even at Aldi - it’s left to the driver to do any caring. Self-tip works then, providing you don’t find yourself in a jammed-packed unloading dock with nowhere to put the stuff you’re trying to tip… No staff about to ask anything of, and a tight window to get to your next drop/knocking off time/out of hours threshold. :frowning:

I came off the road in '07 but at that time, here in Oz, Aldi tipped you and you were on the concrete with fork lifts etc running around. You were allowed on the back if you wanted to get up and it was all easy going stuff. Never heard of anyone getting killed on the way to or from the office with paperwork. This was at Aldi, Stapylton, Qld. Might have changed now, but everything just went smoothly.

2 hrs at lidl , still waiting for pager too go off to go on a bay !!!

Anyone at a lidl should really just get out of there as soon a possible. For safety sake leave in case the next man using an electric truck is dozy. A disaster is guaranteed.

Got banned from Lidl Gravesend on Saturday morning. My heinous crime? I backed onto the bay before asking for permission to open the rear doors! The guy in there asked “why have you got your doors open?” To which I replied that I found it a tad easier to tip that way, he then started bleating on about temperature issues and how it could potentially cost a lot of money. I told him that as it was 22 pallets of Lidl stock there wouldn’t be much over £30 on the whole load.

He then threatened to ban me to which I replied “fine, do it now to save me tipping your tat, and it’ll give me an early finish too”. Needless to say he “allowed” me to tip. I then went for my paperwork only to be informed that I’m banned from site!

I actually drove back to the freezer bays as I was genuinely going to thank the guy, he mistook my intentions and ran off when he saw me! Hey ho, next Lidl I go to I may just have to sign in under my real name as Jack Meoff is now banned.