Radar19:
maybe if I’m feeling really naughty I don’t wear my Hi-Vis!
Maniac
This thread caught my eye for two reasons. First, not so long ago a ran the batteries down using the tail lift after taking out a truck that had sat there a while and quite early in day had lots to load. Had to string two sets of car jump leads together to another truck to get her started again. I remember thinking the the H&S brigade better not be watching. I since learned the ABS lead trick which would have been easier!
2nd reason - I had the embarrassment of falling off the back when I loaded a palette with a bouncy castle on the back and a sack barrow was in the way, so I stepped backwards onto the tail lift with the barrow and my mate had been a bit quick putting the lift down. First I knew about it I was flat on my back wondering when the sack barrow was going to land on top of me, which turned out to be never as my mate managed to deflect it. Now my wife introduces me as someone who fell off the back of a lorry… and I’l never live it down!
matt4500:
I took a DD to a store in a pouplar West Country holiday area last night and got talking to the kid in the back door and he did infact confirm that the Fire Brigade issued a fine of 700 pounds. So I’m guessing that’s where the incident occurredAlso something about a complaint being made that the scissor lift was to loud because it hurt said drivers delicate ears.
He has also heard stories of the worlds best lorry driver so we had a right giggle tipping that one
If anyone has a camera phone snap of the incident they ought to see if a newspaper is prepared to get their chequebook out to then run a story on this sorry tale. It’s certainly got the health and safety gone mad element.
5 pages for this 
mind you it would probably be only 2 if the unnecessary repeated quotes wasn’t there 
th2013:
I since learned the ABS lead trick which would have been easier!
What’s that th2013?
dri-diddly-iver:
if the unnecessary repeated quotes wasn’t there
Yes indeed, they never think to shorten it (allowed in this forum but not at all) to the relevant bits. 
Driveroneuk:
th2013:
I since learned the ABS lead trick which would have been easier!What’s that th2013?
Basically take the ABS lead off and connect it between two units and start the engine on the working one. Give it a few minutes and it will have charged the dead one enough for a couple of starting attempts. Best to disconnect before try to start up, as it isn’t rated for starting current.
Yep, only suitable if there’s signs of life like dash and cab lights and some slight effort to turn over. If it’s proper flat then jump leads are going to be needed as will take quite a long while otherwise.
You can touch the coils and check it’s not getting too warm.
Guess everybody knows that if there’s almost but not quite enough in the batteries to start it, a truck can be jumped from a 12v car. (with jump leads)
This level of jobsworthness qualifies somebody for being a nonhuman.
Just a robot, not a person, undeserving of respect or acknowledgment. I usually figure these ones out quick, and if they start trying to project their childish behaviour onto me, they get responded with “Yep”, “Yeah”, “Yes” etc as I continue to do it my way.
They soon be quiet.
On his return to the yard he would be told your going to do traction work out of Belfast for Interland / Norfolk Line /DFDS or whatever they are calling themselves this year .A good six months of it should cure him …
I don’t know that I would go to the extreme of calling the Fire Brigade, but if the H&S nut jobs had a procedure in place for this event, I would follow it to the letter.
The sensible thing to do would be to jump down, even if that meant stripping down a cage, but sensible is not allowed.
I would also try to encourage the battery saver to kick in and trap me in the trailer on days that I didn’t fancy a 2nd run, or wanted some overtime. It would make sense to put a cage of soft stuff to one side, so I could get comfy and ■■■■ about on my phone as I wait to be rescued.
It goes against every principle I have to act like that, but ■■■■ em, principles don’t pay the bills.
Driveroneuk:
Guess everybody knows that if there’s almost but not quite enough in the batteries to start it, a truck can be jumped from a 12v car. (with jump leads)
True, it’s not voltage that starts an engine, it’s amps.
I seriously hope that Fireman sam not only gave him & tossco a bollocking as well as charging them upto £200 per hour (possibly more now) as i fail to see how this was in the public interest, Tesco are wasting local tax payers money on non emergency call outs, as well as diverting a valuable resource to something that they should not be needed to attend, ELF and safety & some bs EU directive no doubt ZB idiots
newmercman:
Driveroneuk:
Guess everybody knows that if there’s almost but not quite enough in the batteries to start it, a truck can be jumped from a 12v car. (with jump leads)True, it’s not voltage that starts an engine, it’s amps.
Is it not Watts that actually does the work?
Rjan:
newmercman:
Driveroneuk:
Guess everybody knows that if there’s almost but not quite enough in the batteries to start it, a truck can be jumped from a 12v car. (with jump leads)True, it’s not voltage that starts an engine, it’s amps.
Is it not Watts that actually does the work?
I know batteries are rated by cold cranking amps, watts are a mystery to me, I was looking out of the window the day we did them in physics lol
newmercman:
Rjan:
newmercman:
True, it’s not voltage that starts an engine, it’s amps.Is it not Watts that actually does the work?
I know batteries are rated by cold cranking amps, watts are a mystery to me, I was looking out of the window the day we did them in physics lol
Watts are just volts x amps the volts in this case are ( should be ) a given.Which just leaves amps as the only variable.Which is why load testing a battery is effectively just a measure of it’s ability to maintain its amperage output.On that note it’s possible to have a battery that reads the full 12.5 or 25 volts but which has no longer even got the capacity to run a headlight let alone a starter motor. 
another thread resurrection - someone must be bored 
dri-diddly-iver:
:roll: another thread resurrection - someone must be bored
Only resurrected due to the other Tesco thread about getting a fitter out to change a bulb
Carryfast:
newmercman:
Rjan:
newmercman:
True, it’s not voltage that starts an engine, it’s amps.Is it not Watts that actually does the work?
I know batteries are rated by cold cranking amps, watts are a mystery to me, I was looking out of the window the day we did them in physics lol
Watts are just volts x amps the volts in this case are ( should be ) a given.Which just leaves amps as the only variable.Which is why load testing a battery is effectively just a measure of it’s ability to maintain its amperage output.On that note it’s possible to have a battery that reads the full 12.5 or 25 volts but which has no longer even got the capacity to run a headlight let alone a starter motor.
Long time since I’ve done this, but IIRC a battery unable to supply sufficient ampage will generally show less than 12V due to the internal impedance of the cells.
Captain Caveman 76:
Carryfast:
Watts are just volts x amps the volts in this case are ( should be ) a given.Which just leaves amps as the only variable.Which is why load testing a battery is effectively just a measure of it’s ability to maintain its amperage output.On that note it’s possible to have a battery that reads the full 12.5 or 25 volts but which has no longer even got the capacity to run a headlight let alone a starter motor.Long time since I’ve done this, but IIRC a battery unable to supply sufficient ampage will generally show less than 12V due to the internal impedance of the cells.
The voltage drop under load isn’t the same thing as OCV which is what the battery shows without any load on it which is what I was referring to.The definition of a ‘load test’ is all about testing the ability of a battery to sustain the rated amperage output.