Flashing lights on overtaking

We all flash when long artic overtakes and want to come back in the lane then we get "thank you"with indicators :slight_smile: is it always necessary? Some drivers even wait to be flashed even when it’s lots of room.what if on single carriageway you flash to a lorry which overtakes you and a car who want to join the traffic(some granny ) understand it as a ivite to join the same lane as artic.sometimes it’s just unnecessary?. What you think?

Only flash if its appropriate, eg never flash a work colleague on the opposite carriageway if your being simultaineously overtaken…

joker83:
What you think?

I think you worry to much and have too much time on your hands

I wouldn’t do it. Would hate feeling responsible if something went wrong after I give the go ahead flash!! Leave it up to the other driver to know when to come back in etc. Not only that but from my time as a traffic police officer I know of at least 2 instances where a driver has been found guilty of causing an accident by flashing their lights

Be interested to read more about those cases.

chaversdad:

joker83:
What you think?

I think you worry to much and have too much time on your hands

I agree a lot of people on here worry way to much and have far to much time on there hands :laughing:

I usually wait until I’m flashed in, not because I don’t know when I’m past, but I’d rather the driver of the truck I’ve just over taken be comfortable with me pulling in. It really annoys me when other trucks pull back in about 10ft in front of my bumper. They may be past, it may be impressive that they’ve accurately judged the length of their vehicle (its really not) but its not much good to me when all I can see ahead is their back doors and if they were to brake for whatever reason, I wouldn’t have time to react before ploughing in to the back. So yes, I always flash trucks in when they’re far enough past me for me to feel safe with them being in front and I likewise wait to be flashed in and if there is no flash then I pull when I judge it to be safe, which is often after a flash would be any way, what with things in the mirror behind the trailer looking nearer than they are etc.

Last time I flashed I got 6 months :cry:

robinhood_1984:
It really annoys me when other trucks pull back in about 10ft in front of my bumper. They may be past, it may be impressive that they’ve accurately judged the length of their vehicle (its really not) but its not much good to me when all I can see ahead is their back doors…

This is one of the reasons why I don’t run on the limiter. If someone does that to me, I can speed up and use my rear-facing camera to repay the favour with even more accuracy. :sunglasses:

To the OP of this thread, are you for real or just trolling?

If you can’t figure out for yourself when it’s safe and appropriate to flash another vehicle in, you shouldn’t be driving a lorry.

Start using that lump of matter between your ears or return your licence to the DVLA and ask them to remove your entitlements with immediate effect.

Contraflow:

robinhood_1984:
It really annoys me when other trucks pull back in about 10ft in front of my bumper. They may be past, it may be impressive that they’ve accurately judged the length of their vehicle (its really not) but its not much good to me when all I can see ahead is their back doors…

This is one of the reasons why I don’t run on the limiter. If someone does that to me, I can speed up and use my rear-facing camera to repay the favour with even more accuracy. :sunglasses:

To the OP of this thread, are you for real or just trolling?

If you can’t figure out for yourself when it’s safe and appropriate to flash another vehicle in, you shouldn’t be driving a lorry.

Start using that lump of matter between your ears or return your licence to the DVLA and ask them to remove your entitlements with immediate effect.

So you actually don’t run on your limiter, just so you can get your own back■■?

Maybe you should use your lump of matter a bit more!!!

No, I said “one of the reasons”.

benbailey81:
I wouldn’t do it. Would hate feeling responsible if something went wrong after I give the go ahead flash!! Leave it up to the other driver to know when to come back in etc. Not only that but from my time as a traffic police officer I know of at least 2 instances where a driver has been found guilty of causing an accident by flashing their lights

Few years ago a driver from around here got done for death by dangerous driving for it, he flashed his mate coming the other way, a woman at a junction took it as a signal to pull out.Being hit by a tipper going flat out ain`t going to stand a chance.

joker83:
We all flash when long artic overtakes and want to come back in the lane then we get "thank you"with indicators :slight_smile: is it always necessary? Some drivers even wait to be flashed even when it’s lots of room.what if on single carriageway you flash to a lorry which overtakes you and a car who want to join the traffic(some granny ) understand it as a ivite to join the same lane as artic.sometimes it’s just unnecessary?. What you think?[/quote I still use 2 turns of the side lights to say thank you when I’m flashed in I can remember when drivers started using indicators as a thank you and I’ve seen a few car drivers brake suddenly because they thought the lorry that had was coming back out so I’ve never used my indicators to say thank you also i don’t like it when drivers start indicating to pull back in and they haven’t got past

dowahdiddyman:

benbailey81:
I wouldn’t do it. Would hate feeling responsible if something went wrong after I give the go ahead flash!! Leave it up to the other driver to know when to come back in etc. Not only that but from my time as a traffic police officer I know of at least 2 instances where a driver has been found guilty of causing an accident by flashing their lights

Few years ago a driver from around here got done for death by dangerous driving for it, he flashed his mate coming the other way, a woman at a junction took it as a signal to pull out.Being hit by a tipper going flat out ain`t going to stand a chance.

On single carriageway roads at busy junctions then yes common sense should apply that flashing a mate or someone coming the other way could be misconstrued by other motorists as letting someone out of a junction,. Same as people who don’t cancel their indicators. Seen a few near misses with that. Ultimately comes down to time and a place.

On a motorway then there is very little danger. In fact does more good than and potential bad, helps the overtaking driver out, he then can give enough room without cutting in if he wishes to. Also the potential to ease up a bit more congestion as a driver isn’t dithering about longer than he / she needs to in the middle lane.
Should a driver flash indicators to say thank you? Do you say thank you when someone holds a door open for you?..

dowahdiddyman:

benbailey81:
I wouldn’t do it. Would hate feeling responsible if something went wrong after I give the go ahead flash!! Leave it up to the other driver to know when to come back in etc. Not only that but from my time as a traffic police officer I know of at least 2 instances where a driver has been found guilty of causing an accident by flashing their lights

Few years ago a driver from around here got done for death by dangerous driving for it, he flashed his mate coming the other way, a woman at a junction took it as a signal to pull out.Being hit by a tipper going flat out ain`t going to stand a chance.

Blimey thats a bit stiff, I thought that the legal position off flashing lights is to inform another road user off your presence. It might have been argued that the car driver had dangerously pulled out in front off another vehicle, the driver off which had simply used his lights to inform off his presence on the road. But what do I know :wink: :wink:

Having said that, it dont take a lot off common sence to work out that it might not be sensible to flash your mate whilst approaching a junction with standing traffic, but stupity wasnt a crime last time I looked, Hey, but what do I know :wink:

I agree it’s not really an issue on motorways but yeah at a junction with people waiting to pull out etc. It all comes down to common sense. Plus the other thing to consider nowadays is the scammers trying this new flash for cash. They flash you so you think it’s safe to go and they then crash into you to make a claim denying that they ever flashed. And they will often have a “witness” who will say they never flashed too. Granted it would be a bit risky to try it with a lorry lol

I doubt a ‘flash for cash’ would be driving a lorry, would they? It’s certainly one to think about when a car flashes you in, I think (hope) we know when we’re past, it’s a matter if comfortable space.

The indicator light shows are nice, which I sometimes partake in, depending on the feel of the indicator stalk. But really, the best way you can thank me is by paying attention, take the space I’ve given you and get a move on!

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robinhood_1984:
It really annoys me when other trucks pull back in about 10ft in front of my bumper. They may be past, it may be impressive that they’ve accurately judged the length of their vehicle (its really not) but its not much good to me when all I can see ahead is their back doors…

This is one of the reasons why I don’t run on the limiter. If someone does that to me, I can speed up and use my rear-facing camera to repay the favour with even more accuracy. :sunglasses:

To the OP of this thread, are you for real or just trolling?

If you can’t figure out for yourself when it’s safe and appropriate to flash another vehicle in, you shouldn’t be driving a lorry.

Start using that lump of matter between your ears or return your licence to the DVLA and ask them to remove your entitlements with immediate effect.

I completely agree.
And I do like to get my own back as well when it comes to the next downhill gradient. To wrongs do make a right and it makes me feel much better about things. :slight_smile:

^^^^^^^^ THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM ^^^^^^^ Really ■■? :unamused:

The reason that flashing in started was when lorries had those stupid silly car type mirrors on them so trying to make a judgement was a lot harder than the modern large mirrors we now have