Flashed in France

I reloaded last tuesday morning at tsa in st omer and ran the national up to calais…
There i was happily tramming on with 25 ton of bottled water on when …FLASH :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:
the bugger got me. Long straight bit of road… middle of nowhere… not paying attention was i :blush: .
I remember seeing a bloke tinkering with this box at the side of the road… he wasnt in uniform though…
Anyway… Whats the likelihood of getting a fine through the door?

About zero. I’ve been flashed a few times in France, Germany, Holland, Belgium over the years and never had anything through.

The only one I know who got a fine was a bloke from your neck of the woods at GBE. He was flashed over the Aquitaine bridge in the roadworks. It cost him the standard 900 francs, 90 Euro thing and he did have to pay that, no points though :stuck_out_tongue:

Is it a case of being arrested if not paid?

JB:
Is it a case of being arrested if not paid?

They still have to prove it was you driving the truck, same as here. Transalliance had a policy of handing over driver details from trailer numbers

I’m by no means an expert but from my own knowledge, the only time i’ve known people get a fine in France / Belgium etc is when you get pulled over a bit further up the road by a cop. Even so, atleast if you do get caught doing it, you dont risk your entire lively hood as is the case here with the extremely unfair and OTT points system for incredibly minor offences.

Nicked from another site :exclamation:

UK drivers heading for an autumn break in France could face a long walk home if they are caught speeding according to the RAC Foundation.

A little known French law means that anyone stopped for exceeding the speed limit by more than 25mph can lose their licence on the spot and be forced to find another way home.

The law has been around for about five years, yet few visitors to France seem to be aware of it, and an increasing number of British motorists are finding themselves stranded with no way to get themselves or their vehicles home.

The RAC Foundation has received numerous calls from drivers who have found themselves on the wrong side of this law and, without any other way of getting their vehicle home, are looking at repatriation costs which can amount to thousands of pounds.

For the time being, foreign licences will be returned when the holder leaves the country, following international practice, but French driving bans may also be enforced across the European Union under a 1998 convention on the mutual recognition of licence suspension that has yet to be ratified.

Drivers in this situation may also face stiff on the spot fines and can be escorted by police to cash points to extract sums of up to £900. A second offence can carry a three-month jail sentence and potentially a fine of over £2000.

The ruling, in 2000, made foreign licence holders subject to the same immediate ban as French motorists but was previously only used on drink drivers.

It now gives French police the discretion to confiscate a licence immediately but allows no distinction between French nationals and visitors - unlike UK legislation which is far less draconian on foreign drivers.

Edmund King, executive director of the RAC Foundation said: "Many families will be visiting France during the October break and risk having their holidays ruined if they break the speed limit. We are concerned by the growing numbers of drivers who find themselves stranded with no one to help and by the lack of knowledge about the legislation and the potential of this happening. None of the people who contacted us were aware of the possible consequences of their actions.

"If there is no one else who can drive the car, then they will have to pay to have it brought back to the UK. That can cost up to £3000 - a sum that is unlikely to be covered by insurance. One twenty year old was left stranded in Lyon as his passenger could not drive and it is an offence to drive in France without a licence.

“Visitors to France during the school holidays should be especially careful as there is evidence to suggest that the French police will be particularly vigilant of foreigners who flout their speeding laws. The number of speed cameras on French roads has also increased over the past few years.”

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Wheel Nut:
Nicked from another site :exclamation:

A little known French law means that anyone stopped for exceeding the speed limit by more than 25mph can lose their licence on the spot and be forced to find another way home.

I should think so too :smiling_imp: . Over 103mph or 80mph in car or truck on an autoroute is way too much. Or what about 55mph in a little village? :open_mouth:

One twenty year old was left stranded in Lyon as his passenger could not drive and it is an offence to drive in France without a licence.

Shock, horror :open_mouth: :imp: . What a surprise to the poor dear, you mean he thought it was ok in the uk? :confused:

Salut, David.

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BUT it all changes at the end of the year the euro **“”__>?<><<><<nice folks have come up with an other grand plan which means that euro countries will share info on cars wagons etc and any driver commiting an offence in a euro country will be "done"do to information sharing!!!

froggy:
BUT it all changes at the end of the year the euro **“”__>?<><<><<nice folks have come up with an other grand plan which means that euro countries will share info on cars wagons etc and any driver commiting an offence in a euro country will be "done"do to information sharing!!!

I had heared about this but did hope in vain that it was just a rumour. How will it actually work. Can British drivers who say speed in Italy now face prosecution and points from the British authorities even though the offence was commited outside of British territory?

The way it came across the fine will sent to the drivers home address(via the firm etc)and will have to be paid but no points will be addded,bit like now.

The position in France for residents with car licences is they don’t have to be exchanged for French ones, but, if an offence is committed then the licence must be exchanged so they can take the points off. This seems to suggest that the technology isn’t in place at the moment to organise cross-border points removal/addition. I’m quite sure it will come though, and probably not long either.

Salut, David.

i got done for speeding a while back, before i changed my licence for the french one ( not by choice had to because french medical system is different) and only had to pay the 90€ fine.
nothing was said about changing my licence, and since i have held my french licence i havent had anything thing throu saing i have lost any points.
salut
chris

Caveman
I dont see why you had to change your Licence because of medical insurance. I have lived here for 14 years,still have my UK licence and have my mutial(french medical ins.) and carte maladaise

Welcome Kerbut, do you drive for an English or French company?
I had to change my licence to work for a French company, nothing to do with medical insurance, so I am mystified also by Chris’s (Caveman) post.
Having said that, for a very centralised country, France has a remarkable divergence in the way different departments follow the rules. This often means they make their own up as they go along :laughing: .

Salut, David.

sorry if i didnt make it that clear :blush: :blush:
i had to change my licence, because the french HGV MEDICAL ONLY LASTS 5 YEARS, and due to the fact that i drive for french companies i had to change it.
i havent got health insurance yet, but as i will be starting to ride the mrs’s horse i suppose i should get it sorted!!!
i have heard along the grapevine that the french are going to start taking blood samples at the 5 yearly medicals because of the huge numbers of alcoholism over here. anyone heard the same?
salut
chris

Thanks Spardo for the welcome
I used to drive for a Uk company based in Cherbourg ,but after that for ND in Tours and later transfered to St Malo as it was nearer home( Although when with Tours I used to take the truck/trailer home every weekend,as one does in France).I do not drive any more ,except to help a friend out occasianly driving his low loader to move digging machines,he installes fosse septiques.

kerbut:
Thanks Spardo for the welcome
I used to drive for a Uk company based in Cherbourg ,but after that for ND in Tours and later transfered to St Malo as it was nearer home( Although when with Tours I used to take the truck/trailer home every weekend,as one does in France).I do not drive any more ,except to help a friend out occasianly driving his low loader to move digging machines,he installes fosse septiques.

Does that mean you’re retired, or just fed up? :smiley:
Bet you’ll have plenty of odd jobs with your friend in the coming months, what with the new laws on fosses coming into force. I’m bracing myself for a big bill when they finally inspect mine.

Chris wrote: i have heard along the grapevine that the french are going to start taking blood samples at the 5 yearly medicals because of the huge numbers of alcoholism over here. anyone heard the same?

If that’s true I’m going to be like a pin cushion, I have them every 2 years now :cry:

Salut, David.

I retired at 55,my friend has an order book ahead of him for fosses for2 years and asked me if I would be intrested in full time,to which the answer was, No

how did you get on with nd kerbut?
i amm due ti start with them on the 5th of december, out of the st rambert depot?
only problem is now i have a girlfriend and she lives in dept 23 la cruese it is a fair treck to clermont to pick up the A72 to run over to lyon.
is there a depot at limoges?
chris