Fixed Week.

What purpose does the fixed week have? Is it for road safety? Why can’t I start work again on a Sunday when I’ve had a full weekly rest period?

You can start again on a Sunday after a full weekly rest.

bald bloke:
You can start again on a Sunday after a full weekly rest.

Not always!

weeto:
What purpose does the fixed week have? Is it for road safety?

The ‘fixed week’ serves no purpose other than to define what a week is.

weeto:
Why can’t I start work again on a Sunday when I’ve had a full weekly rest period?

You can. Always. As the regulations state, your working week does not have to align with a fixed week.

Mike-C:

weeto:
What purpose does the fixed week have? Is it for road safety?

The ‘fixed week’ serves no purpose other than to define what a week is.

weeto:
Why can’t I start work again on a Sunday when I’ve had a full weekly rest period?

You can. Always. As the regulations state, your working week does not have to align with a fixed week.

Well ok, I may be able to work, but may not be able to drive, which was the point.
Does a week really need to be defined in the 24/7 culture we work in now?

Weeto may be on 89:56hours fortnightly driving at 14:00 hrs Sunday after having 45 hours off since Friday 17:00hours and can’t drive till midnight/ UTC :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

Its a crazy rule. You could be on your 1st day back after being off 4 days and not be able to do a 10 cos you’ve used 2 at the start of the week. But you can legally do 4 tens in a row if they fall over the weekend and you have them available.

Snowgo:
Its a crazy rule. You could be on your 1st day back after being off 4 days and not be able to do a 10 cos you’ve used 2 at the start of the week. But you can legally do 4 tens in a row if they fall over the weekend and you have them available.

correct! :laughing: and four 15’s and four 9’s off! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

Fatboy slimslow:

Snowgo:
Its a crazy rule. You could be on your 1st day back after being off 4 days and not be able to do a 10 cos you’ve used 2 at the start of the week. But you can legally do 4 tens in a row if they fall over the weekend and you have them available.

correct! :laughing: and four 15’s and four 9’s off! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

They’re between weekly rests, not per week.

Snowgo:
Its a crazy rule. You could be on your 1st day back after being off 4 days and not be able to do a 10 cos you’ve used 2 at the start of the week. But you can legally do 4 tens in a row if they fall over the weekend and you have them available.

You would be able to do a 10 though wouldn’t you? Since you’ve had a weekly rest since the last 10.
Fixed week only affects 90 hrs if I’m not mistaken.

weeto:

Snowgo:
Its a crazy rule. You could be on your 1st day back after being off 4 days and not be able to do a 10 cos you’ve used 2 at the start of the week. But you can legally do 4 tens in a row if they fall over the weekend and you have them available.

You would be able to do a 10 though wouldn’t you? Since you’ve had a weekly rest since the last 10.
Fixed week only affects 90 hrs if I’m not mistaken.

Weekly rest affects the 10hr driving extension. - Twice in a fixed week.

I work an 8 day rolling week averaging 48 hours a week. 4 on 4 off with 2 possible days for OT.

Doesn’t take long for posts to go off topic these days! Are you all bored? :laughing:

Many of the rules do not make logical or safety sense and could be done much better

Driving time allowance rules are one such area … it would make more sense and not compromise safety if there was simply a max driving time limit between any two rest periods

At the moment we allow those driving LGVs under UK domestic rules to drive for 10 hours per day for 7 days a week - every week

Snowgo:

Fatboy slimslow:

Snowgo:
Its a crazy rule. You could be on your 1st day back after being off 4 days and not be able to do a 10 cos you’ve used 2 at the start of the week. But you can legally do 4 tens in a row if they fall over the weekend and you have them available.

correct! :laughing: and four 15’s and four 9’s off! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

They’re between weekly rests, not per week.

snowgo :sunglasses: not everyone works mon, fri! :laughing: sat 10, sun10, mon10 and ties 10! But that’s only if you’ve done one ten the previous, and are planning to do one the following! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: four nines off and four fifteens as well! :grimacing: :grimacing: sat, sun, mon and ties! :grimacing: the fixed week is midnight sun, 00:00 hrs mon morning but if you’re on fri, Tuesday, your weekly rest is wed, Thursday START Friday! :grimacing: you’ve got to have a good memory ( AKA THE DIARY ) to what you’ve driven or the stobrat planners ( aka the WAYNE KERRS ) :grimacing: think you can run 24/7 just for them! :wink:

Quick one for you then mon, fri 5 days? How many nights out? Five as long as you’re daily rest is complete as is you’re driving back to the yard by sat morning BEFORE 120hrs! :grimacing: as is mon, Saturdays 6 nights out and run in on the SEVENTH DAY! As long as your daily rest has been taken and your driving and everything else is complete BEFORE your 144 hours is finished! Please refer yourselves to the nearest DCPC padded cell and relieve yourselves of many pennies! :smiley:

ROG:
Many of the rules do not make logical or safety sense and could be done much better

Driving time allowance rules are one such area … it would make more sense and not compromise safety if there was simply a max driving time limit between any two rest periods

There is a max driving time limit between rest periods.

Mike-C:

ROG:
Many of the rules do not make logical or safety sense and could be done much better

Driving time allowance rules are one such area … it would make more sense and not compromise safety if there was simply a max driving time limit between any two rest periods

There is a max driving time limit between rest periods.

But there are ALSO other driving limits which could be scrapped without compromising safety leaving just the between rest limits