First Tramping Job

As a long term lurker on here I thought I’d finally put up a post about my experiences of my first tramping job that I started recently.

Having decided (for various reasons) to leave behind my easy, comfortable fridge job with a local, rural firm where I got home most nights and generally had the job sussed to take a gamble on something more challenging I organised, through agency, a Mon-Fri tramping job based about 80 miles from where I live running Chipliners.

I found the work pretty tough going to begin with. There’s a very set A,B,C method of tipping a bulk load off a Chipliner and the machine operators at the various drops expect you to know it and be able to do it at optimal speed. There’s often a queue of trucks behind you also waiting to tip, many of them the easier Walking Floors, and some of them from firms where men are paid by the load. Despite no one, at any point, actaully moaning about taking too long, I did feel a pressure to try to work quicker than I really could and got a bit panicky in the first few days. Added to the experience of driving into large, busy Biomass plants with no idea of where to go or the various rules at each place it was quite overwhelming initially but I did soon get used to it.

I have to say though that with the exception of one or two guys behind desks everyone I encountered early on (and particularly other wagon drivers) couldn’t have been more forthcoming with their help and knowledge when I explained I was new to the gig. I think partly this may have been to do with a willingness to keep things moving along but I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt and would say what I encountered in the Biomass side of the job was a fraternity amongst drivers that (in my experience) just didn’t exist doing fridge/RDC day work. A couple of guys even offered me their phone numbers and said to ask them any time I wasnt sure about anything.

The big difference between day work and tramping, I think, is the solitude - or at least the sense of solitude - and feeling that you’re on your own but I’ve had a lot of fears and prejudices (some formed by reading this website) about certain firms and certain parts of the country challenged and given lie to in the last couple of weeks and have been very humbled by the kindness of other drivers when I’ve needed it most.

The major downside, as everyone warned me about, has been missing my family: something I haven’t coped with as well as I’d anticipated. I also think after a block of 15/15/15/13/13 hour days that two days off (effectively one and a half after the commute) isn’t really enough. Although no one has directly told me I’m obliged to max the hours when I get my next job through and find out the delivery time it tends to seem that I’ve been planned for the minimum daily rest available to me. Other men have told me there’s no requirement to run myself ragged and planners will adapt to me doing less but, as it’s early days, I’m keen to show a bit of willing and tbh I enjoy driving into the evenings. I know there are guys that do a sixth day but personally I think 5 on 3 off would seem more tolerable although it doesn’t really conform to an orthodox seven day week! It’s just an annoying sense that as soon as you get home for the weekend the mind’s already on going back to work.

All in all I’d say it’s been a good experience so far. It’s another string to my bow as a driver and has shown me a different, if quite intense, side to the job.

Apologies if the post seems excessively personal or rambling but I hope it might be of interest to some of you.

good write up m8 . snds like you could settle into tramping but maybe get something closer to home to cut down your travelling time gd luck anyway

Welcome to Trucknet mate.
You will know in the first few weeks if tramping is for you or not.
The way I see it (my personal opinion) is that tramping is like a vocation or a way of life, day man/ night man it’s just a job.
(I used to say on here that in comparison day and night men were just ‘playing at it’…but I got a bit of stick for that, so the filter is on. :laughing: )

Don’t fall into the trap of routinely maxing out, minimum rests, teararsing about and all the rest of it,…(especially if the planners tend to adapt to work methods as you say) just leave that to the heroes and idiots eager to please.
I have 2 mates on that type of work, one chooses to work it in an owner driver style (which fair enough is up to him at end of day) maxing out,.early early starts, minimum rests etc, but tbf is not a teararse but a good driver.
The other gets through the workload but does not get stressed, starts not before 6, does his 13 hour days, and prioritises on decent parking place (That is how I do it also) they both get paid the same btw. :bulb:
Stick with it mate, try and make it comfortable for yourself, and don’t turn it into an endurance test, and you will maybe enjoy it.
First 35+ years are the worst btw. :laughing:

I do 4 on 4 off tramping I find it’s a good balance between your home time and work, wages aren’t as good as five on, two off but then again money isn’t everything

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robroy:
Welcome to Trucknet mate.
You will know in the first few weeks if tramping is for you or not.
The way I see it (my personal opinion) is that tramping is like a vocation or a way of life, day man/ night man it’s just a job.
(I used to say on here that in comparison day and night men were just ‘playing at it’…but I got a bit of stick for that, so the filter is on. :laughing: )

Don’t fall into the trap of routinely maxing out, minimum rests, teararsing about and all the rest of it,…(especially if the planners tend to adapt to work methods as you say) just leave that to the heroes and idiots eager to please.
I have 2 mates on that type of work, one chooses to work it in an owner driver style (which fair enough is up to him at end of day) maxing out,.early early starts, minimum rests etc, but tbf is not a teararse but a good driver.
The other gets through the workload but does not get stressed, starts not before 6, does his 13 hour days, and prioritises on decent parking place (That is how I do it also) they both get paid the same btw. :bulb:
Stick with it mate, try and make it comfortable for yourself, and don’t turn it into an endurance test, and you will maybe enjoy it.
First 35+ years are the worst btw. :laughing:

Thank you Robroy,

Although it’s early days I do feel the line between doing this job competently and teararsing is actually quite a fine one. When I watch the experienced men do the job (particularly the Walking Floor drivers) it’s difficult to see how they could really do it any quicker. Perhaps it’s a question of attitude? The good driver completes the job quickly but calmly whereas the teararse is on edge, talking quickly to people, sat forward in his seat, allowing other road users to annoy him (I don’t know I’m just speculating)?

Of course I have no desire to work like that, nor do I have the motivation as my set up pays hourly. Yet I can see that it’s a trap you could fall into if you were competitive and wanting to compare yourself against others but, like you suggest, you just need to overcome that urge and employ a bit of self control.

I think the tramping lifestyle will be for me once I find ways of managing the thought process of missing my family. It’s certainly something I’ve been drawn towards since I first applied for my Class 2 provisional 2 years ago. Whether I stick at the Chipliners or not is another matter but I’m committed to 13 weeks to begin with and it gets better each week.

I reckon Robroy’s hit the nail on the head about tramping- it either suits you or it doesn’t.

I’ve switched from M-F to 5on3off5on2off and I’m liking the extra rest. I’d like to try a 6on4off pattern at some point, but I’ve never seen one!

Keep working at a steady pace - being a bit slow through inexperience is better than breaking something because you’re rushing!

Main thing is comfort M8, don’t let the inevitable early mistakes that you will make put you off tramping. It is a very lonely life at first but then you get used to that and it becomes one of the plus sides of the job. Eating & sleeping well is another key to falling into the job. Have everything you need to make a good meal and don’t use a sleeping bag unless you are a ■■■■■■■■■ camper. Entertaining yourself is a bit of an art as you can’t simply watch TV constantly (I couldn’t anyway). I spend a lot of time studying different subjects just to keep occupied and helps in keeping myself sane. I have recently started studying photography, by having an interest in something helps pass the time. Don’t fall into working hideous hours or you will be stressed out and the job becomes hard and you will grow to hate it. It actually works for me, I hate having to do day work now and prefer tramping. Give it a couple of months before deciding if it is for you or not because your attitude will change as you slip into it when you get more conversant with the job. Ask for help if you are unsure of anything, other drivers will help you out more than you will imagine. I like a shower each evening and a change of fresh clothes wherever possible, little things you take for granted make a huge difference. A microwave is a great help but its not necessary at first, get a cheap little gas stove and a kettle and decent frying pan. Good luck and hope you enjoy it.

Forgot to say. …Overnight parking.
On your travels take notice of potential future parking places and note them down.
Don’t fall into the trap of driving to 8 55 before you start thinking about parking, and end up in some ■■■■ hole lay by :smiling_imp: .

Don’t be bothered about going slightly off route to park somewhere decent.and safe, where you can get a shower and decent meal etc…truckstop or ind est/retail park near to facilities, pub meal etc…even if you don’t drink.

Get your cab as home like as poss, fridge, tv, kettle, microwave, blow up woman (ok the last bits a joke :smiley: ) it’s your home for 4/5 nights so don’t deprive yourself

If I think of anythung else, I’ll come back and bore you again. :laughing:

Thanks everyone for the advice. This website’s already been my best source of advice for the past while and I expect that’ll continue.

UKtramp:
Main thing is comfort M8, don’t let the inevitable early mistakes that you will make put you off tramping. It is a very lonely life at first but then you get used to that and it becomes one of the plus sides of the job. Eating & sleeping well is another key to falling into the job. Have everything you need to make a good meal and don’t use a sleeping bag unless you are a ■■■■■■■■■ camper. Entertaining yourself is a bit of an art as you can’t simply watch TV constantly (I couldn’t anyway). I spend a lot of time studying different subjects just to keep occupied and helps in keeping myself sane. I have recently started studying photography, by having an interest in something helps pass the time. Don’t fall into working hideous hours or you will be stressed out and the job becomes hard and you will grow to hate it. It actually works for me, I hate having to do day work now and prefer tramping. Give it a couple of months before deciding if it is for you or not because your attitude will change as you slip into it when you get more conversant with the job. Ask for help if you are unsure of anything, other drivers will help you out more than you will imagine. I like a shower each evening and a change of fresh clothes wherever possible, little things you take for granted make a huge difference. A microwave is a great help but its not necessary at first, get a cheap little gas stove and a kettle and decent frying pan. Good luck and hope you enjoy it.

This actually took me by surprise at first. I was so preoccupied with getting to grips with the trailer, keeping the tacho straight and not getting on anyone’s ■■■■ at sites that I completely overlooked my own welfare. There just wasn’t enough time left (in my head) for me to think about eating, washing etc. In the first week I lost about a stone in weight and didn’t manage a shower or hot meal until the Wednesday evening.

But as time went on and I began to get the hang of the job I became more confident and relaxed and was able to plan the day better and factor in the things you mention. Instead of using my breaks to fill out paperwork and look at maps I’d find time for a shower or to tidy up the cab a bit.

As I say, as the days pass I become gradually more proficient and gradually take control of the situation more and more.

Mostly good advice on here so far. Re working quicker- don’t actually try to work faster, just work smoothly and safely and you’ll be quicker with experience. Or if not quicker you’ll just be happier with your performance.

You forgot to mention the very helpful chap that offered you some advice before you started!

Thanks for posting this very interesting thread. I often daydream about tramping, so this was great to read, from my point of view. Also, I’m enjoying some of the responses from mire experienced trampers.
Keep it coming!

thank you for your post, I found it quite interesting.

Make friends with other drivers…and stay in touch.
I know where all my mates are…and where they are likley to be parking up at night.
A couple of hours moaning about the job,in a pub,with your mates…is most therapeutic.

happysack:
You forgot to mention the very helpful chap that offered you some advice before you started!

Indeed. Thanks again bud! :wink:

robroy:
Forgot to say. …Overnight parking.
On your travels take notice of potential future parking places and note them down.
Don’t fall into the trap of driving to 8 55 before you start thinking about parking, and end up in some [zb] hole lay by :smiling_imp: .

Don’t be bothered about going slightly off route to park somewhere decent.and safe, where you can get a shower and decent meal etc…truckstop or ind est/retail park near to facilities, pub meal etc…even if you don’t drink.

Get your cab as home like as poss, fridge, tv, kettle, microwave, blow up woman (ok the last bits a joke :smiley: ) it’s your home for 4/5 nights so don’t deprive yourself

If I think of anythung else, I’ll come back and bore you again. :laughing:

As Robroy says don’t be driving until 8 hours 50 mins of 9 hours 50 mins are showing on the tachonsnd you are struggling to find somewhere and risking going over your hours. Also his advice about looking out for places you could use as parking spots on you’re travels but be careful if you do find a good spot that you don’t tell everyone about it for 2 reasons.
The first one being the next time you go to park there knowing your luck it’ll be chocka block and you won’t be able to get parked up, the drivers you tell will tell their mates and so on. The second reason being that you don’t know the person who you are telling about the perfect spot you have found just 5mins from that pub that does a wonderful Carvery and treacle sponge and custard is a right scruffy bar steward who has no care in the world of leaving his ■■■■ bottles or bags of ■■■■ behind for the locals to walk past and admire on their way for the morning papers meaning your ■■■■■■■■■■■■ is no more.
We are our own worst enemy on that score. Never park in a lay by that is a ■■■ papers width from the night trunkers tear arsing past at 56mph, you won’t get a good nights kip with constantly being rocked from side to side as the shoot past and you never know if the next truck to come past the driver is going to nod off of have a heart attack and smash straight into your truck at 56mph killing you both (some drivers say they sleep with their heads on the passenger side as it’s safer for reasons such as this… Errr a truck hitting you at 56mph it doesn’t matter which way you lay in bed it’s either going to kill you or you are going to end up through the cab window and out into the road)
Try and find industrial estates near pubs and supermarkets and towns such as Bar Hill on the A14, Huntingdon, Penrith, Kirkcaldy seafront up Scotland, back of Sainsburys in Worksop, Tewkesbury, Bellshill where the Morrisons RDC is etc all either a pub close by, in the town or has a large supermarket where you can stock up on grub and essentials whilst down the road. If possible don’t park in MSA and pay extortionate prices for grub kept warm under hot lamps and park in a ■■■■ soaked space with the risk of getting some of your load nicked and paying anything up to £28 for the privilege :open_mouth: :confused:
Tramping for most of us that do it is a way of life and s chance to see this great country in all it’s glory and it does have some of the best scenery you will find especially up the North West coast of Scotland, North Wales, ■■■■■■■ and Cornwall. You never know if you get to enjoy it you may want to venture further afield and do continental work.