If you’re going to eat/drink in the cab go big or go home 
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ezydriver:
My place has had inward facing cameras for around 4 or 5 years. They upgraded them to live feed about 12-18 months ago. I’ve never got used to it and it’s always on the back of my mind. I never feel comfortable eating my sandwiches, even though I’ve never had any feedback about anything. For me it’s been the worst change through my driving career. It’s a psychological thing. It feels horrible.
Grow a pair and leave. Or just bend over and come on here and moan…
Conor:
You’re already monitored almost everywhere you go. The point of fighting against it ended many years ago. All you do nowadays is to make your life harder and make yourself poorer as pretty much all the best paying companies with the best working conditions are those which also have cameras fitted to their vehicles. And you still end up getting monitored with everything you do anyway.The funniest thing about it all are those who complain about in cab cameras invading a privacy in the workplace that never existed in the first place but then post their entire lives on social media. Some of them even have dashcams in their own cars which really makes me laugh.
Complete ■■■■■■■■.
I currently drive for a supermarket chain with dark green Daf CF’s…not one of them has an in cab camera and the cashola is more than acceptable. I have worked for numerous firms that pay very well & don’t have camera’s, so please stop spouting tripe.
tmcassett:
Terry T:
Conor you’re very outspoken on here. I have no problem with that at all and quite enjoy reading your posts.However, if you were as outspoken in the work place as you are on here perhaps you wouldn’t have a camera pointing at your face all shift.
If he spoke to people in the workplace like he does on here it wouldn’t just be a camera in his face, it would likely be a fist as well. However like a classic cowardly bully we all know he wouldn’t have the balls or the bottle to be as aggressive and offensive in person for said reason above.
I mean on here alone as soon as someone challenges him back he will often vanish from that discussion.
Post of the year so far.
(Obviously excluding all of mine).
eagerbeaver:
tmcassett:
Terry T:
Conor you’re very outspoken on here. I have no problem with that at all and quite enjoy reading your posts.However, if you were as outspoken in the work place as you are on here perhaps you wouldn’t have a camera pointing at your face all shift.
If he spoke to people in the workplace like he does on here it wouldn’t just be a camera in his face, it would likely be a fist as well. However like a classic cowardly bully we all know he wouldn’t have the balls or the bottle to be as aggressive and offensive in person for said reason above.
I mean on here alone as soon as someone challenges him back he will often vanish from that discussion.
Post of the year so far.
(Obviously excluding all of mine).
Can I class that as an official nomination for when it comes to the end of year awards? 
If there’s a camera in your cab without your specific consent, it may well breach GDPR regs
spyequipmentuk.co.uk/gdpr-a … in%20store.
The financial penalties are horrendous.
GDPR still applies in spite of Brexit, and there’s nothing Mrs Truss can do about it!
GasGas:
If there’s a camera in your cab without your specific consent, it may well breach GDPR regsspyequipmentuk.co.uk/gdpr-a … in%20store.
The financial penalties are horrendous.
GDPR still applies in spite of Brexit, and there’s nothing Mrs Truss can do about it!
You dont need consent to install a camera inside the cab, however you must inform the worker that there is one.
The gdpr problem has probably helped see a number of companies back away from installing such personally invasive spyware, knowing how lax their management of such things can be in practice.
We’ve all known of and seen footage of what some drivers get up to inside a cab, some of them infamous such as the idiot on the A34 who fully deserved to be locked away for umpteen years and then some, but transport offices are notorious for everyone and his dog watching accident footage from outside cameras, unauthorised viewings, the possibilities of footage from personell cameras getting out is high and could be a nice early retirement compo package waiting there for a driver to claim quite apart from the govt getting its share of penalties.
This is another argument to be made against them if and when they try and implement these things were you work people, and you don’t wish to just meekly bend over and take it dry.
Got to stick together and give them the boot…it is a good job we are not train drivers…the hours are stuck in the dark ages as with pay and conditions…there are a few good firms but far more stuck in the dark ages
msgyorkie:
GasGas:
If there’s a camera in your cab without your specific consent, it may well breach GDPR regsspyequipmentuk.co.uk/gdpr-a … in%20store.
The financial penalties are horrendous.
GDPR still applies in spite of Brexit, and there’s nothing Mrs Truss can do about it!
You dont need consent to install a camera inside the cab, however you must inform the worker that there is one.
But you do need to be able to demonstrate that a wide range of data protections are in place covering the camera’s recordings, who sees them, how they are kept etc.
I know a decent haulier who has installed them, but actually places access to the video in the hands of the driver. He ASKS to see the video in the event of an accident or a complaint. Obviously, if the driver refuses, there’s an inference to be drawn.
GasGas:
msgyorkie:
GasGas:
If there’s a camera in your cab without your specific consent, it may well breach GDPR regsspyequipmentuk.co.uk/gdpr-a … in%20store.
The financial penalties are horrendous.
GDPR still applies in spite of Brexit, and there’s nothing Mrs Truss can do about it!
You dont need consent to install a camera inside the cab, however you must inform the worker that there is one.
But you do need to be able to demonstrate that a wide range of data protections are in place covering the camera’s recordings, who sees them, how they are kept etc.
I know a decent haulier who has installed them, but actually places access to the video in the hands of the driver. He ASKS to see the video in the event of an accident or a complaint. Obviously, if the driver refuses, there’s an inference to be drawn.
I had this…
There was an incident at a delivery point, where a tall pallet was being unloaded and I was holding the curtain, I could see it was going to topple, so I stood well back, which it then did, a few days later the depot manager asked if they could use the footage from the truck cameras for training purposes.
I had no problem with that and agreed for them to use the footage.
Stephenjp:
There was an incident at a delivery point, where a tall pallet was being unloaded and I was holding the curtain, I could see it was going to topple, so I stood well back, which it then did, a few days later the depot manager asked if they could use the footage from the truck cameras for training purposes.I had no problem with that and agreed for them to use the footage.
lol, you should have named your price and sold it to them 
Absolutely no way will I drive a lorry with a driver facing camera!
We only have a handful of lorries at our place,but I guarantee if we turned up one morning to find them fitted,no lorry will leave the yard.No ■■■■■■■ way!
As for Conor’s comment about being poorer as all the big payers have them fitted-what utter ■■■■■■■■.
andrew.s:
Absolutely no way will I drive a lorry with a driver facing camera!
We only have a handful of lorries at our place,but I guarantee if we turned up one morning to find them fitted,no lorry will leave the yard.No [zb] way!
As for Conor’s comment about being poorer as all the big payers have them fitted-what utter ■■■■■■■■.
I remember drivers saying this about the tracker,but now ,presumably all companies track their vehicles so the option wont be there,and so it will be with the in cab cameras.Unless we all stick together somehow but that wont happen,seems to be every man for himself,I think…
Our place installing them… loads of outrage etc… company has half backtracked and disabled the ‘live feed’, only triggered events will be viewed.
Way I look at it, as long as you aren’t taking the ■■■■ doing really bad stuff like using phone etc, not a lot to be bothered about providing it is only recording when triggered.
I see no need whatsoever for any management to view a live feed of a driver driving along, that is invasion of privacy and will be abused no end.
A recording that is triggered by an event, im not too bothered about, though I still don’t see the need for a driver facing camera.
When Im driving , i drink from a sip water bottle…I eat the odd apple, or snack bar. I wont be changing this regardless of any camera.
Swordsy:
Our place installing them… loads of outrage etc… company has half backtracked and disabled the ‘live feed’, only triggered events will be viewed.Way I look at it, as long as you aren’t taking the ■■■■ doing really bad stuff like using phone etc, not a lot to be bothered about providing it is only recording when triggered.
I see no need whatsoever for any management to view a live feed of a driver driving along, that is invasion of privacy and will be abused no end.
A recording that is triggered by an event, im not too bothered about, though I still don’t see the need for a driver facing camera.
When Im driving , i drink from a sip water bottle…I eat the odd apple, or snack bar. I wont be changing this regardless of any camera.
In one of today. 68s and 22s reg first. Union reps want questions from drivers so they can do podcast. Thing is it’s a good job, local (5 / 10 mins drive) decent wage and looking to retire early within 6 years. Agree with live feed switched off.
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The problem with ever-poorer T&Cs at work - is you’re led to believe that putting up with such crap somehow “protects your job security” when it most definitely does NOT.
Hit something or something hit you?
Camera wasn’t working. Sorry bud, driver pays the fine alone.
Eat something or someone noshing you?
Camera is ALWAYS working for that.
I wonder what the RM driver who killed the BMW driver a few days back - is going to get from their camera to back them up…
Let’s face it - if the forward facing cameras we all WANT in our cabs - don’t bloody well work, then why should any of us even countenence having driver-facing ones that can be relied upon to ALWAYS work, but never in favour of the driver…
I can’t think of any testimony provided by an inward-facing camera that actually got a driver off a CD90 rap…
Does such “exhonerating evidence” even exist, as a concept■■? 
Winseer:
I wonder what the RM driver who killed the BMW driver a few days back - is going to get from their camera to back them up
Royal Mail are a strange company when it comes to dash cams. You can get in a rusty old 64 plate and it’ll have one then next day you’ll get a 69 plate MAN and it won’t.
Can’t find much about that crash on the A2. Was it the RM driver’s fault ?
Winseer:
I can’t think of any testimony provided by an inward-facing camera that actually got a driver off a CD90 rap…Does such “exhonerating evidence” even exist, as a concept■■?
Difficult to envisage video evidence being of any great help when the offence involves the driver already being disqualified/no licence/no insurance when he kills someone. Maybe if he held his licence up to the camera at point of impact just to prove he had one…?
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I suppose it could prove you werent on the phone