Evil8Beezle:
Once you do a printout, it becomes an official record!
And as said above, MUST be kept for 28 days.
This is a joke right ?
Only printouts that are legally required need to be kept for 28 days, you can do a dozen printouts a day and bin the lot unless they’re legally required to explain a deviation from the regulations, you’re boss may not be best pleased about the waste but no-one else will care.
I’ve been told by many people (including TM’s) that once you do a print out, it’s an official record, so no, not a joke!
I may be wrong, I actually hope I am!
You’re wish has come true
As I said before only printouts that are legally required need to be kept for 28 days then handed into the transport office, any printouts you do for your own benefit can be recycled any-time you like
Newbie1985:
Ah right! I thought you would have to access it through menu! Cheers for that. Do you think it’s alright to have wrote my other work down before the driving this morning??I totally forgot to manual entry
Don’t sweat about the manual entry, unless you get paid off the tachograph no-one will even notice.
I don’t know what the “3 hours work of line picking” is about, I assume that was yesterday morning in which case it doesn’t matter, I think I’ve said to you before that you should not try to manually enter none driving work for previous days into the tachograph, it’s not necessary and is likely to lead to mistakes, especially for someone who’s not used to using a tachograph.
Records for none driving days only need to consist of the start and finish times plus the date and your name, no-one will care what breaks you’ve had on those days
Yes the line picking was from this mornings beginning of shift and I didn’t do a print out either at end of shift so I wrote it down as a precaution. Still, at least I know for next time!
Yes the line picking was from beginning of today’s shift and I didn’t do a print out when I left this afternoon that’s why I thought I’d write it down as a precaution. At least I know for next time anyway.
edit: Sorry I’ve just noticed where the line picking came from, as said do a printout and write it on that, though to be honest no-one will notice now anyway
Yeah the line picking was part of this mornings shift but I didn’t do a print out at end of shift that’s why I wrote it down then on notepad as a precaution. At least I know for next time now.
I wonder if the TM message might be that, if you do a printout, the tacho unit records the fact. You cannot therefore claim ignorance at a later date as there will be evidence that you printed off the information.
I half overheard a driver trainer saying something about a problem with doing printouts but I didn’t catch enough to understand what the point was he was trying to make. This is what I was speculating.
Evil8Beezle:
Once you do a printout, it becomes an official record!
And as said above, MUST be kept for 28 days.
No - If you do a printout simply for your own information, e.g. to assist in completing a timesheet or to give a copy to the Agency there is no requirement to keep it for any period at all and it does NOT become “an official record”. The only printouts which must be kept for 28 days (and handed in to the employer) - and which ARE “official records” are the ones required to be made under the tachograph regulations (i.e. where you have had to write on them to correct or add to the information recorded on the card).
Had a text today from Agency to say I would be paid into my account this week for my shift done on Sunday. Says on there how much being paid but 1) The hourly rate is wrong to what they told me 2)No tax or insurance has been taken from it?? I thought because I’m already working full time at another place id be taxed??
Newbie1985:
Had a text today from Agency to say I would be paid into my account this week for my shift done on Sunday. Says on there how much being paid but 1) The hourly rate is wrong to what they told me 2)No tax or insurance has been taken from it?? I thought because I’m already working full time at another place id be taxed??
Arse.
If you’ve got the hourly rate in writing. Copy that and email them back telling them to sort it out. If you don’t have it in writing, still write to them and try it… but you’ve just learned a valuable lesson. Treat agencies like politicians - if their lips are moving, they’re lying.
If you’re on PAYE, then it will have had your deductions made. Have they given you the post-tax, or pre-tax figure?
Newbie1985:
Had a text today from Agency to say I would be paid into my account this week for my shift done on Sunday. Says on there how much being paid but 1) The hourly rate is wrong to what they told me 2)No tax or insurance has been taken from it?? I thought because I’m already working full time at another place id be taxed??
When you say the hourly rate is wrong presumably you’ve been underpaid ?
You need to phone them asap and sort it out, they’re probably putting you down on their books as self employed.
I had a link in email sending me to view the payslip. Says on there tax - 0 , NI - 0 so yeah looks like they set me up as self employed. No I don’t have in writing but when I signed up he said what rate I would be on. Il be phoning tomorrow morning without fail. Seems like agency setup pay through a different company so il ring them too.
Got to speak to agency today and girl in office reckons that it could have been I didn’t pay tax and insurance because I only done one shift in that week?jokingly saying to me I should be happy with no deductions Anyway she said she will look into it for me as I don’t want to end up with a huge tax bill in a few weeks. Also told her the rate I was paid was not what I was told when signed up but she says it varies between each job.
Newbie1985:
Got to speak to agency today and girl in office reckons that it could have been I didn’t pay tax and insurance because I only done one shift in that week?jokingly saying to me I should be happy with no deductions Anyway she said she will look into it for me as I don’t want to end up with a huge tax bill in a few weeks. Also told her the rate I was paid was not what I was told when signed up but she says it varies between each job.
So basically she said go away and please don’t bring this matter up again as I’ve no intention of doing anything, but I’ll feed you a load of bull that I will, when I won’t…
Don’t let it go mate, as they will probably try to just tag you along with bollox!
Your first payment will probably be on ‘emergency tax code’, so if it is only a small amount it won’t exceed your tax-free allowance for that pay period. Once the data gets sent to HMRC via RTI (real time information) they will see you have a second source of income and they will probably send a new coding notice telling them to deduct tax on BR code in future. That means you’ll be paying 20% on everything from there.
You might have a small problem at the end of the tax year because the tax code change may not be done retrospectively. You might therefore find you have a small shortfall to pay up. Just keep 20% of whatever you received in a piggy bank somewhere and be ready to hand it over if they ask. If you’ve been set up as a director of your own company you are legally required to fill in a tax return, so you’ll have to tell them.
Newbie1985:
Got to speak to agency today and girl in office reckons that it could have been I didn’t pay tax and insurance because I only done one shift in that week?jokingly saying to me I should be happy with no deductions Anyway she said she will look into it for me as I don’t want to end up with a huge tax bill in a few weeks. Also told her the rate I was paid was not what I was told when signed up but she says it varies between each job.
So basically she said go away and please don’t bring this matter up again as I’ve no intention of doing anything, but I’ll feed you a load of bull that I will, when I won’t…
Don’t let it go mate, as they will probably try to just tag you along with bollox!
She is suppose to be getting back to me tomorrow about a regular job offer around my current job to get experience so il be firing questions at her again.I want it sorted before any other work is done.
Newbie1985:
Got to speak to agency today and girl in office reckons that it could have been I didn’t pay tax and insurance because I only done one shift in that week?jokingly saying to me I should be happy with no deductions Anyway she said she will look into it for me as I don’t want to end up with a huge tax bill in a few weeks. Also told her the rate I was paid was not what I was told when signed up but she says it varies between each job.
So basically she said go away and please don’t bring this matter up again as I’ve no intention of doing anything, but I’ll feed you a load of bull that I will, when I won’t…
Don’t let it go mate, as they will probably try to just tag you along with bollox!
She is suppose to be getting back to me tomorrow about a regular job offer around my current job to get experience so il be firing questions at her again.I want it sorted before any other work is done.
Good, just don’t be surprised if she only want to talk about the new work and your next shift!
ORC:
Your first payment will probably be on ‘emergency tax code’, so if it is only a small amount it won’t exceed your tax-free allowance for that pay period. Once the data gets sent to HMRC via RTI (real time information) they will see you have a second source of income and they will probably send a new coding notice telling them to deduct tax on BR code in future. That means you’ll be paying 20% on everything from there.
You might have a small problem at the end of the tax year because the tax code change may not be done retrospectively. You might therefore find you have a small shortfall to pay up. Just keep 20% of whatever you received in a piggy bank somewhere and be ready to hand it over if they ask. If you’ve been set up as a director of your own company you are legally required to fill in a tax return, so you’ll have to tell them.
Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully il get an answer to my problem when they get back to me tomorrow. Wasn’t a lot of money no because only one shift of 7 hours. Let’s see what they say in morning.
Newbie1985:
Got to speak to agency today and girl in office reckons that it could have been I didn’t pay tax and insurance because I only done one shift in that week?jokingly saying to me I should be happy with no deductions Anyway she said she will look into it for me as I don’t want to end up with a huge tax bill in a few weeks. Also told her the rate I was paid was not what I was told when signed up but she says it varies between each job.
So basically she said go away and please don’t bring this matter up again as I’ve no intention of doing anything, but I’ll feed you a load of bull that I will, when I won’t…
Don’t let it go mate, as they will probably try to just tag you along with bollox!
She is suppose to be getting back to me tomorrow about a regular job offer around my current job to get experience so il be firing questions at her again.I want it sorted before any other work is done.
Good, just don’t be surprised if she only want to talk about the new work and your next shift!
dave_k:
As above, all agencies are complete parasites.
Strictly speaking, the relationship is more of a symbiosis. For some of us the agencies serve a useful function, to connect us with casual non-employed work. Yes, they are only in it for themselves and will rob you at every opportunity, but it still cuts both ways because you are going to get work through them, and ultimately that’s what you’re after.
Anyway she said she will look into it for me as I don’t want to end up with a huge tax bill in a few weeks. Also told her the rate I was paid was not what I was told when signed up but she says it varies between each job.
