Whilst looking for something else to do with the dutch road haulage industry, I stumbled across the vosa equivelent of their scaled fine sheet, and what i can make out the dutch fine the employer rather than the employee for some tacho infringements, self employed are fined like the employer, which can be found here.
http://www.ilent.nl/Images/Policy%20Regulation%20for%20the%20imposition%20of%20administrative%20fines%20under%20the%20Working%20Hours%20Act%20and%20Working%20Hours%20Decree_tcm334-330657.pdf
This section on the photo can be found on page 29.
Would that seem resonable to fine the employer rather than the driver for infringments because the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringment.
i don’t agree that the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringement, maybe equal fines would be the fair
stevieboy308:
i don’t agree that the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringement, maybe equal fines would be the fair
He has if he is pushing the driver, at the end of the day a fine to the employer would stop them giving the driver unrealistic work schedules.
There is plenty of evidence were the company is guilty of pushing drivers way past the limit and when caught the driver does jail time and big fines, and the company gets off vertualy scot free, shall I post up some examples for you?
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stevieboy308:
i don’t agree that the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringement, maybe equal fines would be the fairHe has if he is pushing the driver, at the end of the day a fine to the employer would stop them giving the driver unrealistic work schedules.
There is plenty of evidence were the company is guilty of pushing drivers way past the limit and when caught the driver does jail time and big fines, and the company gets off vertualy scot free, shall I post up some examples for you?
what if he’s not been pushing the driver?
end of the day it’s the drivers choice
i don’t agree with your - it’s always the employer at fault, in some cases they will be, others they won’t.
yes please, examples would be great
stevieboy308:
weeto:
stevieboy308:
i don’t agree that the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringement, maybe equal fines would be the fairHe has if he is pushing the driver, at the end of the day a fine to the employer would stop them giving the driver unrealistic work schedules.
There is plenty of evidence were the company is guilty of pushing drivers way past the limit and when caught the driver does jail time and big fines, and the company gets off vertualy scot free, shall I post up some examples for you?what if he’s not been pushing the driver?
end of the day it’s the drivers choice
i don’t agree with your - it’s always the employer at fault, in some cases they will be, others they won’t.
yes please, examples would be great
You sound like you’ve worked in a sheltered enviroment!
weeto:
stevieboy308:
weeto:
stevieboy308:
i don’t agree that the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringement, maybe equal fines would be the fairHe has if he is pushing the driver, at the end of the day a fine to the employer would stop them giving the driver unrealistic work schedules.
There is plenty of evidence were the company is guilty of pushing drivers way past the limit and when caught the driver does jail time and big fines, and the company gets off vertualy scot free, shall I post up some examples for you?what if he’s not been pushing the driver?
end of the day it’s the drivers choice
i don’t agree with your - it’s always the employer at fault, in some cases they will be, others they won’t.
yes please, examples would be great
You sound like you’ve worked in a sheltered enviroment!
do you think?
just because i asked 1 question, stated the fact that it is the driver’s choice and said sometimes the employer will be at fault and sometimes they won’t, a reasonable view to me…ok!
how ya doing with them examples fella, i’m off to bed soon
stevieboy308:
weeto:
stevieboy308:
weeto:
stevieboy308:
i don’t agree that the employer has one way or another caused the driver to record an infringement, maybe equal fines would be the fairHe has if he is pushing the driver, at the end of the day a fine to the employer would stop them giving the driver unrealistic work schedules.
There is plenty of evidence were the company is guilty of pushing drivers way past the limit and when caught the driver does jail time and big fines, and the company gets off vertualy scot free, shall I post up some examples for you?what if he’s not been pushing the driver?
end of the day it’s the drivers choice
i don’t agree with your - it’s always the employer at fault, in some cases they will be, others they won’t.
yes please, examples would be great
You sound like you’ve worked in a sheltered enviroment!
do you think?
just because i asked 1 question, stated the fact that it is the driver’s choice and said sometimes the employer will be at fault and sometimes they won’t, a reasonable view to me…ok!
how ya doing with them examples fella, i’m off to bed soon
Night