You have the right to ask the copper for a book that lists the offence code,and how much the fine is,they have it in their car/van/motorbike panels.Each offence will have a unique code number and reference.
not in spain they don’t, if you want to see the codes you need to go on the trafico website as they don’t carry books anymore it’s all done electronically with PDA devices
welshboyinspain:
not in spain they don’t, if you want to see the codes you need to go on the trafico website as they don’t carry books anymore it’s all done electronically with PDA devices
sorry wbis you are wrong. under the EEC directive 4478 it,s illegal for any police authority in the eec to fine any truck driver from the eec on the basis that they have comitted an offence. if the offence is comitted in the eec they have the right to have the offence referd to the HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD. the offence that comitted is not an offece untill they can prove the offence was comitted. 
browncow2:
welshboyinspain:
not in spain they don’t, if you want to see the codes you need to go on the trafico website as they don’t carry books anymore it’s all done electronically with PDA devicessorry wbis you are wrong. under the EEC directive 4478 it,s illegal for any police authority in the eec to fine any truck driver from the eec on the basis that they have comitted an offence. if the offence is comitted in the eec they have the right to have the offence referd to the HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD. the offence that comitted is not an offece untill they can prove the offence was comitted.
you’ve lost me dafydd 
i didn’t say anything like that, i simply said you can’t ask for a book of codes off the guardia civil as its done electronically.
as for what you’ve strangely put you don’t pay a fine on the spot, you pay a deposit towards the forthcoming adjudication which is nearly always the same result as you’ve paid on deposit. also your point might be valid for a driver from one country being in another country but as a spanish resident i don’t get to refer to the human rights board (where is it based?) but to appeal to the DGT like the ministry of transport in the uk
how can the police do you for an offence, when you have not comitted the offence. its only an offence when they fine you for the offence. if you have not comitted the offence it,s not an offenced.
browncow2:
how can the police do you for an offence, when you have not comitted the offence. its only an offence when they fine you for the offence. if you have not comitted the offence it,s not an offenced.
When has “not committed any offence” ever bothered a copper about writing you up a ticket?
not committing an offence is not an offence. but when an offence is committed it,s an offence. 
browncow2:
how can the police do you for an offence, when you have not comitted the offence. its only an offence when they fine you for the offence. if you have not comitted the offence it,s not an offenced.
It works the same as a fixed penalty in the UK, you don’t have to accept the “bond” but if you don’t you aint going anywhere until you have been to court, that might be the next day or it might be the next month, but until you either pay the bond or go to court you aint moving 
if i go out to commit an offence, and don,t commit the offence that,s not an offence. but if i go out to commit an offence and commit an offence, that,s an offence. 
browncow2:
not committing an offence is not an offence. but when an offence is committed it,s an offence.
What if law says you should commit an offence and you didn’t commited that offence? Are you then commiting offence, or not?
(this is not completely stupid question, if you drive in Poland:
(objazd - diverted traffic)
(nie dotyczy - except).
