Finding Nina

Now we know she works for the elf’s n safely brigade, and instruct our contstabulary,and the Devils-Vehicle-Stop-Advisory, on matters regarding load security, But what qualifications does she possess. Who said “Nina go and teach,you are chosen”
Maybe our sponsors could ask for an interview :smiley: :smiley:

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CEng - Chartered Engineer
MIMechE - Member Institution of Mechanical Engineers
DGSA - Dangerous Goods Safety Advisor
Honorary member at the British Transport Advisory Consortium (BTAC),

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Yes, but can she put a ■■■■■■■ ■■?

My glasses were a bit steamed up I thought you said tampon.

This is a thread that is heading below the waistband - Dipper Dave - come to Nina’s rescue………

At the risk of incurring the wrath of the moderators, I would suggest she may have had more experience of putting on a ■■■■■■■■ than she will have had in putting on a strap.
Doubtless, with her genuinely impressive list of qaulifications she will be able to quote Newton’s first law of motion
( For every action, there is an equal or opposite reaction)
to errant drivers if they have the temerity to challenge her opinion.
Funnily enough, had one strapped on a ■■■■■■■■ and was using it for the purpose intended, Sir Isaacs law would apply equally I believe.
Isn’t physics fascinating?

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So as was thought herself is a typical manager has lots of qualifications but has never done the job.

One can look at any trade or walk of life to find well qualified idiots. As the saying goes: " Those that can do; those that can’t teach."

Funnily enough, had one strapped on a ■■■■■■■■ and was using it for the purpose intended, Sir Isaacs law would apply equally I believe.
Isn’t physics fascinating?
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In the interest of research I googled this up … very enlightening but odd . Is Debbie from Dallas related in some way to Nina from York ?

And she was wearing high heeled steel toe caps too but a very small high viz –

Old John:
At the risk of incurring the wrath of the moderators

Let’s just say this thread is on our radar, so keep it on topic. :wink:

Please Sir, bigriffin started it…

Seriously though, maybe she or another equal authority could put some 100 % genuine info to inform of the legal requirements from the authority’s point of view - however foolish they may seem in the real world.

OwenMoney:
Please Sir, bigriffin started it…

Seriously though, maybe she or another equal authority could put some 100 % genuine info to inform of the legal requirements from the authority’s point of view - however foolish they may seem in the real world.

Don’t blame me for all the inuendo, that’s dippers job …

But a full and 100% what is expected for restraining a load in a curtiansider would be good, especially after Humbersides load of thermal board.

The fun starts here:

hse.gov.uk/workplacetranspor … /index.htm

You can download two guides…one simple one, and one where (I kid you not) you have to establish the coefficient of friction of the load bed and use a scientific calculator to work out what restraints are required.

I’ve seen a presentation by Nina, I don’t know if she’s ever loaded a lorry, but she’s seen plenty that were loaded by other people and then managed to unload ‘all by themselves,’ in some cases killing the guy who loaded them. She’s got an endless supply of pictures of shed loads, the most remarkable of which is a collection of supermarket trollies that were shoved into the top deck of a DD trailer. When the truck had to stop suddenly, the trollies got ejected through the bulkhead, over the roof of the cab and onto the road in front of the truck!

Most of the pics are rather less funny, including the inevitable stack of sheet steel straight through the cab of one of those British lorries that were made out of biscuit tins and bits of wood.

But I’m utterly baffled by what was supposedly wrong with that load of insulation…and I expect she would be too.

IIRC when VOSA (as it was) first started checking loads, the guidance from the RHA was that they would only check trucks where there was an apparent problem ie bulge in the curtain or items bouncing about on a flat. Not sure what’s changed since then, but something clearly has.

So essentially shes an academic. Out of interest, what in that lot qualifies her to know anything about loading and restraints!? Its not an engineering assignment and not ADR.

I vote we get Diesel Dave to run these courses as I suspect he knows 100x more than Nina about anything truck related, and likely doesn’t have a load of unrelated letters after his name.

Leave this to VOSA please.

We have established that Nina has shed loads of knowledge about shed loads.

reminds me of this

GasGas:
The fun starts here:

hse.gov.uk/workplacetranspor … /index.htm

You can download two guides…one simple one, and one where (I kid you not) you have to establish the coefficient of friction of the load bed and use a scientific calculator to work out what restraints are required.

I’ve seen a presentation by Nina, I don’t know if she’s ever loaded a lorry, but she’s seen plenty that were loaded by other people and then managed to unload ‘all by themselves,’ in some cases killing the guy who loaded them. She’s got an endless supply of pictures of shed loads, the most remarkable of which is a collection of supermarket trollies that were shoved into the top deck of a DD trailer. When the truck had to stop suddenly, the trollies got ejected through the bulkhead, over the roof of the cab and onto the road in front of the truck!

The second link does not seem to work but here is a link to Nina’s powerpoint :-

ritchiestraining.co.uk/wp-co … curity.pdf

trevHCS:
So essentially shes an academic. Out of interest, what in that lot qualifies her to know anything about loading and restraints!? Its not an engineering assignment and not ADR.

It is an engineering problem, she has a raft of engineering qualifications sufficient to read you chapter and verse on what will work and won’t.

The problem isn’t her, its those in policy enforcement on the frontline newly tasked with policing it who have no such qualifications, have no experience of loading anything more than their lunchbox and are then given a basic stripped down pamphlet on load security and told “Go forth, enforce.” And then they go off and make the gaffs they are doing because they don’t understand that there’s no such thing as a one size fits all way of securing loads.

They’ll get there, you just need police forces like mine to continue to post their triumphs on Facebook then get comments with every single one saying the same thing, that there’s nothing wrong with it and slowly they’ll learn.

Upside is at least they’re just making the decision to forward evidence to more experienced and better qualified people to make a judgment on whether to take it further than issuing FPNs left, right and centre for every truck they stop and decide has an insecure load.

manski:

GasGas:
The fun starts here:

hse.gov.uk/workplacetranspor … /index.htm

You can download two guides…one simple one, and one where (I kid you not) you have to establish the coefficient of friction of the load bed and use a scientific calculator to work out what restraints are required.

I’ve seen a presentation by Nina, I don’t know if she’s ever loaded a lorry, but she’s seen plenty that were loaded by other people and then managed to unload ‘all by themselves,’ in some cases killing the guy who loaded them. She’s got an endless supply of pictures of shed loads, the most remarkable of which is a collection of supermarket trollies that were shoved into the top deck of a DD trailer. When the truck had to stop suddenly, the trollies got ejected through the bulkhead, over the roof of the cab and onto the road in front of the truck!

The second link does not seem to work but here is a link to Nina’s powerpoint :-

ritchiestraining.co.uk/wp-co … curity.pdf

FFS it’s like a child’s GCSE coursework or something.

That’s the simple version…used to train the police :smiley:

There’s a more ‘in depth’ one…but the maths in it is beyond me.