Filming accidents

Since January 1st…

2021, taking unauthorized pictures or videos of accidents is a criminal offense in Germany and can lead to imprisonment for up to two years or a fine of at least 1000€.
I was wondering how effective this law has been in stopping the unsavoury practice of trying to take pictures of the dead and the dying?

youtube.com/watch?v=33qavy56fkM

According to that Ytube video, not very good.

Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

Totally agree

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

The offence is taking unauthorised pictures…

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ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

The matter is, would you feel the same way, if it was a pic of your mother or of your daughter, turned into multiple blobs of flesh all over the A(whatever). And if you did feel the same, What about other relatives, would they feel the same way about seeing the pics all over whatsapp groups, internet forums, etc. Even before they get the tragic news?

osark:

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

The matter is, would you feel the same way, if it was a pic of your mother or of your daughter, turned into multiple blobs of flesh all over the A(whatever). And if you did feel the same, What about other relatives, would they feel the same way about seeing the pics all over whatsapp groups, internet forums, etc. Even before they get the tragic news?

Nailed it.

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osark:

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

The matter is, would you feel the same way, if it was a pic of your mother or of your daughter, turned into multiple blobs of flesh all over the A(whatever). And if you did feel the same, What about other relatives, would they feel the same way about seeing the pics all over whatsapp groups, internet forums, etc. Even before they get the tragic news?

This. Fact seems many forget is there are real people involved. Real people who for many very serious accidents have just had their lives destroyed or ended in the most brutal way possible. Real people who have loved ones. My own recent experiences have made me quite straightforward about this- if on seeing a serious accident your first thought is to get your phone out to film it you’re a c-.t. Have some ■■■■■■ respect

switchlogic:

osark:

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

The matter is, would you feel the same way, if it was a pic of your mother or of your daughter, turned into multiple blobs of flesh all over the A(whatever). And if you did feel the same, What about other relatives, would they feel the same way about seeing the pics all over whatsapp groups, internet forums, etc. Even before they get the tragic news?

This. Fact seems many forget is there are real people involved. Real people who for many very serious accidents have just had their lives destroyed or ended in the most brutal way possible. Real people who have loved ones. My own recent experiences have made me quite straightforward about this- if on seeing a serious accident your first thought is to get your phone out to film it you’re a c-.t. Have some [zb] respect

Totally agree

I think in quite a few instance its the cops that record this and put it on Social Media…
thesun.co.uk/news/12751705/ … alifornia/

Also I hate it whenever there is an accident that results in a lane being closed so many people just slow down to like 5mph to get a good look at the accident before speeding up. It causes huge delays in traffic.

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense. Why not show the public the reality of what happens when you drive like an idiot? Drunk drivers/caught for DD/reckless etc. should be forced to look at pictures of incident aftermaths, maybe it’ll paint a better idea instead of ,2 people died in a collision on the A(whatever)‘’

My brother died in a car accident when he was 19, went out with his mates for his birthday and crashed his car into a lamppost on his way home after dropping them off. Blood tests showed a blood alcohol reading of .50, so almost 1 and a half times the legal limit, or less than 4 pints. As a result, his death was classed as a DUI. (In truth no-one actually knows what caused his accident, head injuries from being attacked earlier in the night, tyre blowout as the car was found with both front tyres blown, one of which had been repaired only a fortnight before his accident, weather conditions or even just tiredness or falling asleep, the crash happening at 4am, were all possible causes, but because they couldn’t be proven conclusively to have caused it, they went with the only thing that could be proven as a possible contributing factor, which was alcohol)
Seeing pictures of his car during the inquest into his death was hard enough even though they were taken after his body had been removed, obviously harder for me than it would have been for a stranger who might not have known the outcome or having had a connection to the person involved.
Pictures, videos or anything else that shows scenes of death should not be available for public showing out of respect for the deceased and their family, instead they should only be shown in ‘proper’ places, such as inquests or during legal proceedings.
Imagine being on a course and seeing various images of accidents then suddenly seeing one involving someone you knew, even years after the fact, the sheer surprise of seeing it would bring back all sorts of terrible memories and trauma.

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Terry Cooksey:
My brother died in a car accident when he was 19

That must…

Have been a great deal of trauma to have to deal with.

I have no idea how people can film these things and not think it’s morally repugnant.

Ok alright - I’m sorry. If it’s any consolation I personally wouldn’t mind being filmed/photographed after my death (as long as it doesn’t involve any ■■■■■■ acts with my corpse. Like a nice naked woman posing next to it triumphantly holding my ding dong would be ok but not a guy putting his own ding-dong in my mouth)

ETS:
Ok alright - I’m sorry. If it’s any consolation I personally wouldn’t mind being filmed/photographed after my death (as long as it doesn’t involve any ■■■■■■ acts with my corpse. Like a nice naked woman posing next to it triumphantly holding my ding dong would be ok but not a guy putting his own ding-dong in my mouth)

If you are dead it’s not really about what you want. I very much doubt those that love you would enjoy being pictures of your body or bits of it, sometimes before they’ve even been told by the police (and not an entirely tasteful post considering subject and post two above yours :unamused: )

switchlogic:

ETS:
Ok alright - I’m sorry. If it’s any consolation I personally wouldn’t mind being filmed/photographed after my death (as long as it doesn’t involve any ■■■■■■ acts with my corpse. Like a nice naked woman posing next to it triumphantly holding my ding dong would be ok but not a guy putting his own ding-dong in my mouth)

If you are dead it’s not really about what you want. I very much doubt those that love you would enjoy being pictures of your body or bits of it, sometimes before they’ve even been told by the police (and not an entirely tasteful post considering subject and post two above yours :unamused: )

‘Not an entirely tasteful post’?

Given your distaste for this great country, what a superb example of British understatement (despite Brexit).

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Don’t agree , if by showing a photo of one of my relatives dead / injured and it saved someone else the grief I’d be going through I’d have no problem
I do see what people are saying but a lot of the times shock in seeing that picture is what alters people’s behaviour .
A picture is worth a millions words

Quite

yourhavingalarf:

Terry Cooksey:
My brother died in a car accident when he was 19

That must…

Have been a great deal of trauma to have to deal with.

I have no idea how people can film these things and not think it’s morally repugnant.

We sadly live in a time where so many people seek attention from social media, always looking for a post that will go viral and bring them the likes and comments (both positive and negative, after all there is no such thing as bad attention in their eyes). This means people will have to go to increasingly low depths to find things that haven’t already been seen so they can stand out.
Thankfully my brothers accident happened 17 years ago, before the rise of social media (and based on the content some people post, its apparent fall as well, at least in standards), so I didn’t have to worry about photos or videos showing up and being shared all over the internet. Had his accident happened today I’d probably always be wary, wondering if any such media existed and awaiting its possible release into the public domain.
Dealing with his death was hard enough, it took me several years to be able to come to terms with it and accept it, dealing with massive amounts of depression, self-harm, suicidal thoughts and alcohol dependency before finally getting to a place where I started to heal and get better. Who knows how much longer that process would have taken, or if I would have even been able to recover at all.
That all might sound a tad dramatic, but grief is a powerful emotion, so are pain and anger, and trying to deal with all of that as a 17 year old kid, as I was at the time was almost impossible. Being exposed to those types of images would have been devastating, not only for myself, but also the rest of my family, who understandably also struggled.
Another thing to bear in mind, based on the thread, is that when something is posted to social media it can be seen by anyone. Facebooks terms say profiles can only be created by people over the age of either 12 or 13. There would be nothing stopping them from potentially being exposed to these kinds of posts. At that age they are still a long way from being emotionally fully developed, and in a lot of cases, have no experience of death. These kinds of images could have a potentially huge impact on their emotional and mental health and development

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Most people seem to slow down to have a look at accidents,but I do make an effort to keep the flow of traffic moving.I remember a few weeks ago the signs on the m1 indicated a deisel spillage.Everyone slowed down to have a look.It was only about a metre in diameter,not that intresting.
I remember another time the dartford crossing was down to one lane,everyone cutting in front like nobodys business,then slow down to look at the work using a welder ,bright sparks flying off.Every single vehicle slowed down to walking pace to have a look,crazy

Unfortunately it only takes one person to slow down and you get a standing wave effect that takes ages to dissipate.

But as to the original post, I wonder if it means you could have your collar felt for driving past an accident with your dashcam running?

emergency folk dont like being gawped at nor having their photo taken at any time -thats the main reason its not allowed. Some of them work undercover and strive to keep their identity hush hush.

ETS:
Doesn’t make sense.

It makes perfect sense. What do you think causes miles of tailbacks when there are lanes open even on the opposite carriageway? Would you like to find out via Whatsapp, Instagram, Tiktok, Facebook or Youtube with a post made to the public for nothing more than likes and upvotes that your husband/wife/kids/parents had been KSI in a road traffic accident?