hi just wondering if any 1 on here has hauled fertalizer from dundee as im ment to be going there on monday just wondering if you know whare it is thanks
Dundee is on the north bank of the River Tay, it lies about halfway between Perth and Arbroath. You should have no problem finding fertilizer as every thing in Dundee is crap.
I hope this helps.
aye thanks m8 av been 2 dundee just wondering if any 1 knew the name of the possible places whare it loads thanks
I would guess the docks will be favourite, we used to load it regularly off Ayr docks.
thanks for the replys is there anybody on here from dundee that know any more info cheers
tipperdriver:
aye thanks m8 av been 2 dundee just wondering if any 1 knew the name of the possible places whare it loads thanks
This might be the place, but haven’t they given you an address?
Yara UK Ltd (Dundee)
Fish Dock Road
Dundee
Angus
DD1 3LZ
yara fertiliser
Fishdock Road
Dundee
Angus
DD1 3LZ
if coming from perth when you come past the bp garage on your right on the a90 get into the righthand lane as you are turning right at the swallow roundabout
take riverside drive (a85) towards city centre/broughty ferry, go over 3 roundabouts till you come to the south marketgate roundabout (you’l know this as it has traffic lights on it) take the exit for aberdeen/broughtyferry (a92).
go over the next roundabout (height restriction 15ft i think) get into the righthand lane as you are turning right soon, go through the next 2 sets of lights now look for the tyre garage on the right (blue sign hi q tyres), turn right here, go over the level crossing and follow the road along to the plastic bollard roundabout, you will see red and white plastic wall go up the righthand side of it to the yellow cabin, this is security and you will need to show them id.
once in go over the roundabout at end of cabin and travel up stannergate road, go past fishdock road and take the next right tarred entrance on the right, stop at the gate and look to your left and you will see a window, go to that window with wire mesh gaurd on it with the following information, grade of fertiliser you are collecting, order number, if it’s 5.1 or 5.2 dangerous goods then you will also need too show your adr before they will load you. they will tell you where it is loading as they have 3 or 4 sheds in the docks but paul or steve will keep you right.
nah just said i mite be back loading fert out of dundee am tipping 2 shipping containers 2 a building site in gourock then over 2 dundee thanks
scotstrucker:
… , if it’s 5.1 or 5.2 dangerous goods then you will also need too show your adr before they will load you.
Hi scotstrucker,
I’ve never seen fertiliser of UN Class 5.2, do you have have any other info on this please?
Fertiliser is normally either:
UN 2067 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 5.1, PGIII
(UN 2067 is fully subject to ADR if carried in bulk [ = unpackaged, loose loaded. ])
If carried in packaged form [ = poly-bulk bags / flexible IBCs] in amounts up to and including 1,000kg, then no ADR licence is needed and the only ADR compliance requirement is to carry 1 X 2kg dry powder fire-extinguisher.
If more than 1,000kg of packaged UN 2067 is carried, then ADR applies in full.
OR
UN 2071 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 9.
(Although this has a UN number and Class, it is NOT subject to ADR no matter how much is carried.)
The difference between the two types of fertiliser depends on the ‘recipe’ and concentration of the ingredients.
dieseldave:
scotstrucker:
… , if it’s 5.1 or 5.2 dangerous goods then you will also need too show your adr before they will load you.Hi scotstrucker,
I’ve never seen fertiliser of UN Class 5.2, do you have have any other info on this please?
Fertiliser is normally either:
UN 2067 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 5.1, PGIII
(UN 2067 is fully subject to ADR if carried in bulk [ = unpackaged, loose loaded. ])
If carried in packaged form [ = poly-bulk bags / flexible IBCs] in amounts up to and including 1,000kg, then no ADR licence is needed and the only ADR compliance requirement is to carry 1 X 2kg dry powder fire-extinguisher.
If more than 1,000kg of packaged UN 2067 is carried, then ADR applies in full.OR
UN 2071 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 9.
(Although this has a UN number and Class, it is NOT subject to ADR no matter how much is carried.)The difference between the two types of fertiliser depends on the ‘recipe’ and concentration of the ingredients.
hi dave hope your well, class 5.2 is organic peroxide oxidising agent but now you mention it i dont think dundee store that lol, you say only 1x 2kg powder extingusher is requierd? when did that change as our dgsa says we must carry up to 12 kg of powder extinguisher, i have a 10kg and a 2 kg on the lorry.
scotstrucker:
dieseldave:
scotstrucker:
… , if it’s 5.1 or 5.2 dangerous goods then you will also need too show your adr before they will load you.Hi scotstrucker,
I’ve never seen fertiliser of UN Class 5.2, do you have have any other info on this please?
Fertiliser is normally either:
UN 2067 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 5.1, PGIII
(UN 2067 is fully subject to ADR if carried in bulk [ = unpackaged, loose loaded. ])
If carried in packaged form [ = poly-bulk bags / flexible IBCs] in amounts up to and including 1,000kg, then no ADR licence is needed and the only ADR compliance requirement is to carry 1 X 2kg dry powder fire-extinguisher.
If more than 1,000kg of packaged UN 2067 is carried, then ADR applies in full.OR
UN 2071 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 9.
(Although this has a UN number and Class, it is NOT subject to ADR no matter how much is carried.)The difference between the two types of fertiliser depends on the ‘recipe’ and concentration of the ingredients.
hi dave hope your well, class 5.2 is organic peroxide oxidising agent but now you mention it i dont think dundee store that lol, you say only 1x 2kg powder extingusher is requierd? when did that change as our dgsa says we must carry up to 12 kg of powder extinguisher, i have a 10kg and a 2 kg on the lorry.
Hi mate,
Nothing has changed with regard to load limits.
Carriage of UN 2067 (in packaged form) has a load exemption of 1,000kg, so an amount of packaged UN 2067 of 1,000kg or less only needs a 2kg dry powder fire extinguisher. If the load exemption is exceeded, then ADR applies in full.
Load exemptions only apply to dangerous goods carried in packages.
However, if UN 2067 is carried in bulk [= loose loaded eg: in a tipper] then ADR applies in full, regardless of the amount because bulk carriage has no load exemption.
Once ADR applies in full, then the fire extinguisher requirements are exactly as you said, but that applies to vehicles >7.5t, (smaller vehicles have lesser fire extinguisher requirements.)
We haul bulk bags of fertiliser from Growhow in Teesside and they wont load you without ADR.
Coffeeholic:
Dundee is on the north bank of the River Tay, it lies about halfway between Perth and Arbroath. You should have no problem finding fertilizer as every thing in Dundee is crap.I hope this helps.
Lynne Duffus is from Dundee …
I was through Dundee today,follow the advice of Scotstrucker and you will do OK. There has been a lot of road realignment going on near the Tay Road Bridge.You will see scaffolding on your left where a new swimming pool is under construction when you pass that head over to the right lane for your turn into the Port area.Dundee is a great place to see in your mirrors.
thanks m8 aye av been thru it a few times all the roundabouts do my nut in but u just have to get on with it lol
You know going onto the bridge from the west approach in a artic you cannot make that turn without heavily encroaching on the offside lane, who the ■■■■ designed that 
dieseldave:
scotstrucker:
dieseldave:
scotstrucker:
… , if it’s 5.1 or 5.2 dangerous goods then you will also need too show your adr before they will load you.Hi scotstrucker,
I’ve never seen fertiliser of UN Class 5.2, do you have have any other info on this please?
Fertiliser is normally either:
UN 2067 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 5.1, PGIII
(UN 2067 is fully subject to ADR if carried in bulk [ = unpackaged, loose loaded. ])
If carried in packaged form [ = poly-bulk bags / flexible IBCs] in amounts up to and including 1,000kg, then no ADR licence is needed and the only ADR compliance requirement is to carry 1 X 2kg dry powder fire-extinguisher.
If more than 1,000kg of packaged UN 2067 is carried, then ADR applies in full.OR
UN 2071 AMMONIUM NITRATE BASED FERTILIZER, 9.
(Although this has a UN number and Class, it is NOT subject to ADR no matter how much is carried.)The difference between the two types of fertiliser depends on the ‘recipe’ and concentration of the ingredients.
hi dave hope your well, class 5.2 is organic peroxide oxidising agent but now you mention it i dont think dundee store that lol, you say only 1x 2kg powder extingusher is requierd? when did that change as our dgsa says we must carry up to 12 kg of powder extinguisher, i have a 10kg and a 2 kg on the lorry.
Hi mate,
Nothing has changed with regard to load limits.
Carriage of UN 2067 (in packaged form) has a load exemption of 1,000kg, so an amount of packaged UN 2067 of 1,000kg or less only needs a 2kg dry powder fire extinguisher. If the load exemption is exceeded, then ADR applies in full.
Load exemptions only apply to dangerous goods carried in packages.However, if UN 2067 is carried in bulk [= loose loaded eg: in a tipper] then ADR applies in full, regardless of the amount because bulk carriage has no load exemption.
Once ADR applies in full, then the fire extinguisher requirements are exactly as you said, but that applies to vehicles >7.5t, (smaller vehicles have lesser fire extinguisher requirements.)
Does in not come in scope if more than 8 tonnes is carried?
bowserman:
Does in not come in scope if more than 8 tonnes is carried?
No mate, Wherever did somebody dream up that it might?
Not subject to ADR means… not subject to ADR, so the amount is completely irrelevant, because it’s not subject to ADR.
As you can see, UN 2071 is not subject to ADR.
However, as you can also see, there are things written in the columns about UN 2067, so what I’ve written about the two different UN numbers is based on what ADR says about them for transport.
It’s possible that there’s an 8t limit for storage Regs, or for some other reason, but I keep myself to transport Regs. 
It’s 2067 we carry in bulk bags and you cannot load without ADR at Growhow, so this must be their particular rules for subcontractors.
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bowserman:
It’s 2067 we carry in bulk bags and you cannot load without ADR at Growhow, so this must be their particular rules for subcontractors.
Hi bowserman,
It’s not just Growhow’s site rules mate, it’s ADR Regs that say you need an ADR licence and that ADR applies in full if you’re carrying more than 1,000kg of UN 2067 in packages.
BTW, bulk bags are IBCs and IBCs are packages.