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.co.uk tends to work out cheaper than .com but the price is pretty negligible TBH

I have a .co.uk domain and I can promise you that I have never made a penny out of it, but that wasn’t why I got it in the first place

Similar reason I always say I am English when asked my nationality. Old-fashioned I suppose

onesock:

The-Snowman:

onesock:
Sites which make no money are usually .org. while .co.uk & .com are companies.

The extention at the end of a web address more often than not means very little to do with the actual company running the site and is not a good basis to go on when figuring out if a company is profit making or not

Rubbish

If youre going to act like an expert its a good idea to have at least a partial clue as to what you’re talking about.
ANYONE can buy a .org extention and make it a pay site. Theres nothing to stop it. Anyone can buy a .com and they dont need to be a company. Most blogs are .com or .co.uk but I almost guarantee you “debbiesartandcrattips.co.uk” isnt registered with companies house. It doesnt even guarentee its a british person running the site either. Like I said, .com and .co.uk are the most popular and the best to buy for ranking purposes
They were started with the intention you describe but like all things on the internet, it grew faster than anyone could make regulations to keep up with and it became a mess so quickly it cant be regulated properly

onesock:

The-Snowman:

onesock:
Sites which make no money are usually .org. while .co.uk & .com are companies.

The extention at the end of a web address more often than not means very little to do with the actual company running the site and is not a good basis to go on when figuring out if a company is profit making or not

Rubbish

Nope not rubbish. “.com” is the most common and most recognized domain suffix. While it usually means “commercial” and is used by mostly commercial website, anyone who wants to register a domain name can register a name ending in .com, whether their site is going to be used for commercial purposes or not.
Like me, I registered my surname as a “.com.”

“.com” is the most common of all domain suffixes, “.net” and “.org” are also popular. “.net” stands for “network,” while “.org” stands for “organization.” Again, these domains can be registered by anyone regardless of their intended use. “.co.uk” only represents a website domain name registered in the UK, however there is nothing to stop a UK based site being registered and using any permissible domain name.

There’s a plethora of domain extensions depending on how deep down the rabbit hole you wish to go, for example .onion domains only accessible through the Tor network and even that isn’t the deepest layer of the internet world.

If I was considering opening another online shop I would register a .co.uk & a .com perhaps even a .net & .org to try and protect it from copy cat scammers.

So to me the extension is irrelevant.

But regarding this forum I haven’t read the rules properly :wink: but I would presume ownership of anything I post is TNUK’s but I’m still accountable for anything I write.

I’ve not read all the argument / thread and have no intention of doing so… so apologies if I repeat anything.

I actually clicked the link to the last page of this thread - only because DD is rather funny…

So… the following is accurate and what you don’t know until now… is that I own one of the UK’s first domain name registration and web hosting companies… and it pays me a wage (happy days).

There have been a number of successful challenges to the ownership of domain names over the years.

All domain names ending .uk are administered by NomiNet through TAG HOLDERS and they have an appeals procedure. As with the .org, they consider org.uk to be domains aimed at organisations - with a bent toward charities. So whilst it is possible for anyone to register either a .org or a .org.uk - that does not mean it cannot be taken away… if for example a registered or well known charity decided you purchased it purely for cyber sitting the domain.

There have (as I said) been cases of appeals - which have resolved these issues… where a cyber sitter has offered domains for sale to a large company and the company has then contacted NomiNet - appealed the situation and won. From memory the one that sticks in my mind is Marks & Spencer… albeit some time ago… although my memory is a bit hazy - this might have gone to court to resolve.

To put this in perspective, back in the early days there was a lot of speculation and a lot of cyber sitting, much of which has been resolved.

As a demo: If you registered the domain RNIB.ORG.UK prior to the RNIB having an online interest, it is NOT likely NomiNet would have allowed you to keep it.

ICANN, who oversee TLD’s inc .com also have appeal processes.

So anyone who tells you - you can buy any domain name and that makes it yours is not entirely correct.

There have been other cases where domains with the same name as a company… but ending .com or .co.uk have been settled both in and out of court and the company often wins the day… especially if the registrant has made no use of the domain, or has no obvious need for it.

You do NOT have to be based in the UK to own a domain with the extension .uk.

It’s all gone off subject as usual. The original statement was thatTN was making money out of you.

And I am still pretty sure that we don’t make money out of you as individuals … to clarify just because it seems difficult for some, we don’t take anything of you to use this site, not money, we don’t sell your details, - we make money because you use this site- buts that’s not making money off you, is not taking anything from you-

So no , quite simply using this website hasn’t cost you anything that we can benefit from ( you don’t pay us your phone bills or internet charges) - this site makes money by NOT charging its users to use it.

We make money because of you, not out of or off you - if you want to argue the semantics then go ahead, but you know and I know that is all it is… at the end of the day this website does make money, it has to, to survive it has bills to pay- but that money doesn’t come out of your pocket- we don’t demand an amount of your time - in fact we don’t ask anything off you at all except follow our very basic posting guidelines

onesock:
The original statement was thatTN was making money out of you.

Which, like everything else youve said, was wrong

The-Snowman:

onesock:

The-Snowman:

onesock:
Sites which make no money are usually .org. while .co.uk & .com are companies.

The extention at the end of a web address more often than not means very little to do with the actual company running the site and is not a good basis to go on when figuring out if a company is profit making or not

Rubbish

If youre going to act like an expert its a good idea to have at least a partial clue as to what you’re talking about.
ANYONE can buy a .org extention and make it a pay site. Theres nothing to stop it. Anyone can buy a .com and they dont need to be a company. Most blogs are .com or .co.uk but I almost guarantee you “debbiesartandcrattips.co.uk” isnt registered with companies house. It doesnt even guarentee its a british person running the site either. Like I said, .com and .co.uk are the most popular and the best to buy for ranking purposes
They were started with the intention you describe but like all things on the internet, it grew faster than anyone could make regulations to keep up with and it became a mess so quickly it cant be regulated properly

I had no idea that you are an expert in such a devious world.

The-Snowman:

onesock:
The original statement was thatTN was making money out of you.

Which, like everything else youve said, was wrong

Prove it.

The-Snowman:

onesock:
The original statement was thatTN was making money out of you.

Which, like everything else youve said, was wrong

Snowman ? Roll on the spring. EVERYTHING I have posted is wrong? Well that’s a pretty blanket statement. (All your posts are correct I assume).

Rikki-UK:
And I am still pretty sure that we don’t make money out of you as individuals … to clarify just because it seems difficult for some, we don’t take anything of you to use this site, not money, we don’t sell your details, - we make money because you use this site- buts that’s not making money off you, is not taking anything from you-

So no , quite simply using this website hasn’t cost you anything that we can benefit from ( you don’t pay us your phone bills or internet charges) - this site makes money by NOT charging its users to use it.

We make money because of you, not out of or off you - if you want to argue the semantics then go ahead, but you know and I know that is all it is… at the end of the day this website does make money, it has to, to survive it has bills to pay- but that money doesn’t come out of your pocket- we don’t demand an amount of your time - in fact we don’t ask anything off you at all except follow our very basic posting guidelines

Wriggle Wriggle Wriggle. All of your Mods are volunteers, they get paid nothing. So the money that you make is off their backs. Without posters on this forum you would have nothing to market, and you tell me that you don’t make money off us. Yes I do want to argue because you are pulling the wool over many eyes and I have lots of time. If you really want to give a service to Truckers then why don’t you run a not for profit site
and stop pretending that you are some kind of good samaritan. What about your mate Diesel Dave answering posts in such away that it’s not hard to figure that he runs an ADR instruction company in north-west UK.
You think you have tucked it up quite nicely , but you are as shallow as as a bird bath. The semantics are secondary to this argument . The facts are plain to see.

onesock:
It’s all gone off subject as usual. The original statement was thatTN was making money out of you.

I like this anology.

Once upon a time somebody built a house, they decorated the house and installed many rooms in that house.
To build the house cost a small amount but it didn’t matter as there was a need for that house and the plan was to make it a very nice and popular house.

The purpose of this house was for people to chat in its many rooms, each room has its own special topic but visitors could come and create their own mini rooms if they wanted, if these where interesting mini rooms others would join in.

As time went by this house got very popular as it’s rooms where very good and attracted lots of people with similar interests.

People could stop by anytime with questions that needed answering, these questions where then answered and everyone liked this because they learnt stuff, they even got answers to questions they never knew they had.

There was never any cost to enter this house and you could stay as long as you liked. In fact people profited from this house both in gaining knowledge and sometimes having fun.

As the house grew the owners of the house asked for volunteers to help manage the house and keep it tidy, these people had been at the house for a long time, liked the house and where happy to help.

The house still had costs but luckily as lots of people liked the house companies would step in and fund rooms of the house they liked and in return they got advertising.

Sometimes naughty people would come to the house and not want to play by the rules they agreed to when they entered, the housekeepers would ask them to play nice or ask them to go to another house. Then everybody lived happily ever after.

So it’s the collective that keeps the house strong, no individual is bigger than the house.

This house is built on members that came before us, members here now and members yet to come.

I profit more from this house than it profits from me.

In terms of the main subject it’s quite a popular house, but given the over 72k membership, it does appear to have only a small number of regular posters.

From someone who spends considerable cash on web ads, that wouldn’t make it a very attractive proposition.

With these things in mind (hope I’m wrong) I doubt the site makes a lot out of anything.
Besides, if it did make fortunes for the owners - surely that’s a good thing.

The door of the house isn’t locked and all are free to come or go.

As a moderator allegedly being taken advantage of for profit, I have a dog in this fight. I have two things to say (for now)

  1. I give my time as a moderator to give a little back to the site, I’ve been a member for 10yrs or so and during that time I’ve learned quite a few things and been entertained during that time and as being a moderator is voluntary, I have no set timetable or procedures to follow, I just look at the stuff that interests me and moderate if anything needs attention. I don’t trawl through the forums looking for trouble, if anybody can make a few quid off the back of that, good luck to them.

  2. Nobody except Rikki actually has to visit the site, if you don’t like anything about it you are only punishing yourself by returning, I don’t understand that, maybe it’s a new phenomenon, cyber-masochism or something like that, maybe you’re just a miserable git that likes to complain, I don’t really care. I do however find it amusing that you waste your time and energy getting all riled up and making posts on here about how crap the site is. I get a mental image of you getting offended and banging away furiously at your keyboard and I chuckle to myself.

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:laughing:

newmercman:
As a moderator allegedly being taken advantage of for profit, I have a dog in this fight. I have two things to say (for now)

  1. I give my time as a moderator to give a little back to the site, I’ve been a member for 10yrs or so and during that time I’ve learned quite a few things and been entertained during that time and as being a moderator is voluntary, I have no set timetable or procedures to follow, I just look at the stuff that interests me and moderate if anything needs attention. I don’t trawl through the forums looking for trouble, if anybody can make a few quid off the back of that, good luck to them.

  2. Nobody except Rikki actually has to visit the site, if you don’t like anything about it you are only punishing yourself by returning, I don’t understand that, maybe it’s a new phenomenon, cyber-masochism or something like that, maybe you’re just a miserable git that likes to complain, I don’t really care. I do however find it amusing that you waste your time and energy getting all riled up and making posts on here about how crap the site is. I get a mental image of you getting offended and banging away furiously at your keyboard and I chuckle to myself.

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You are not getting paid for the work you do.

Rikki has gone quiet.

DVV are laughing all the way to the bank.

If your happy about that then I will gladly do the chuckling.

I find it offending that you’re offended and it may even offend someone else which would also be offensive!

Sincerely,
The Internet.

I’m offensive for free.

Dipper_Dave:

onesock:
It’s all gone off subject as usual. The original statement was thatTN was making money out of you.

I like this anology.

Once upon a time somebody built a house, they decorated the house and installed many rooms in that house.
To build the house cost a small amount but it didn’t matter as there was a need for that house and the plan was to make it a very nice and popular house.

The purpose of this house was for people to chat in its many rooms, each room has its own special topic but visitors could come and create their own mini rooms if they wanted, if these where interesting mini rooms others would join in.

As time went by this house got very popular as it’s rooms where very good and attracted lots of people with similar interests.

People could stop by anytime with questions that needed answering, these questions where then answered and everyone liked this because they learnt stuff, they even got answers to questions they never knew they had.

There was never any cost to enter this house and you could stay as long as you liked. In fact people profited from this house both in gaining knowledge and sometimes having fun.

Stories and fairy tales. No thanks - I’m grown up now
As the house grew the owners of the house asked for volunteers to help manage the house and keep it tidy, these people had been at the house for a long time, liked the house and where happy to help.

The house still had costs but luckily as lots of people liked the house companies would step in and fund rooms of the house they liked and in return they got advertising.

Sometimes naughty people would come to the house and not want to play by the rules they agreed to when they entered, the housekeepers would ask them to play nice or ask them to go to another house. Then everybody lived happily ever after.

So it’s the collective that keeps the house strong, no individual is bigger than the house.

This house is built on members that came before us, members here now and members yet to come.

I profit more from this house than it profits from me.