i had a white scooby pass me this morning 0230 ish nr tuxford on the a1. it had a blue strobe in it. plus the blue undercar lights on it . thought it was a ufo untill it shot past. he defo had a trot on though.
bigbeefy:
mrpj:
Born Idle:
Hands free phoning, although frowned upon, isn’t illegal is it?No and neither’s using a hand held one if you’re making an emergency call and it’s unsafe to stop. Would this scenario constitute an emergency though?
yes it would be an emegency in the opinionof the driver he is about to be robbed
MEMO TO SELF… remember this as a good excuse the next time im caught on the mobile whilst driving… 
Here’s the advice i got from a police traffic officer based in south yorkshire.
If you suspect the unmarked vehicle to not be a bona fida police unit then DO NOT STOP but call 101 and state that you suspect the vehicle that is trying too stop you is fake, give the police operator the registration of the car, the make and colour and the road number and where you are, they will be able too see on the units tracker if the car is a bona fida police unit or a fake.
I do not stop for a police car, as mentioned call 999 and state your reg and rough location and what is happening. In seconds (well maybe a minute or two) you will be told if its genuine or not.
Course if it gets to the point when its 5 + Police cars and a Helicopter and I’ve written a couple off who had tried to stop me I may re-consider.
dieseldog999:
bigbeefy:
mrpj:
Born Idle:
Hands free phoning, although frowned upon, isn’t illegal is it?No and neither’s using a hand held one if you’re making an emergency call and it’s unsafe to stop. Would this scenario constitute an emergency though?
yes it would be an emegency in the opinionof the driver he is about to be robbed
MEMO TO SELF… remember this as a good excuse the next time im caught on the mobile whilst driving…
MEMO…they will check your phone for last number dialled 
Geesh I didn`t think TNUK CSI would get so involved when I posted the warning
The Sarge:
dieseldog999:
bigbeefy:
mrpj:
Born Idle:
Hands free phoning, although frowned upon, isn’t illegal is it?No and neither’s using a hand held one if you’re making an emergency call and it’s unsafe to stop. Would this scenario constitute an emergency though?
yes it would be an emegency in the opinionof the driver he is about to be robbed
MEMO TO SELF… remember this as a good excuse the next time im caught on the mobile whilst driving…
MEMO…they will check your phone for last number dialled
Good point make sure to dial 999 say theres a unconvincing Police car acting suspiciously and your reporting it.
Do it quick though in case of time records.
edited: Thought 999 & 101 where the same number but 101 is none emergency/no immediate response required.
Dipper_Dave:
The Sarge:
dieseldog999:
bigbeefy:
mrpj:
Born Idle:
Hands free phoning, although frowned upon, isn’t illegal is it?No and neither’s using a hand held one if you’re making an emergency call and it’s unsafe to stop. Would this scenario constitute an emergency though?
yes it would be an emegency in the opinionof the driver he is about to be robbed
MEMO TO SELF… remember this as a good excuse the next time im caught on the mobile whilst driving…
MEMO…they will check your phone for last number dialled
Good point make sure to dial 999 say theres a unconvincing Police car acting suspiciously and your reporting it.
Do it quick though in case of time records.edited: Thought 999 & 101 where the same number but 101 is none emergency/no immediate response required.
999 and 101 don’t appear to be the same number to me
but I am dyslexic and colour blind so I maybe wrong
Good point make sure to dial 999 say theres a unconvincing Police car acting suspiciously and your reporting it.
Do it quick though in case of time records.
Quite a few police cars are unconvincing these days,so have they gone ott with unmarked older cars for traffic duties ?
Yep I corrected my 101 vs 999 error.
Although chances are one of these fake police cars is going to appear when your in the middle of nowhere on a carefully planned stretch of road, this would count as an emergency to me and not a 101 call + on a mobile phone these numbers are quite far apart so I would be pressing 9 three times.
Especially in an intense situation like this when going for 101 knowing me i would end up on some ■■■ hotline- not so much pressing the wrong buttons, more force of habit… 
Which falls nicely into my ‘Inappropriate things to do in moments of imminent danger category’.
Mucker1:
From what I’ve seen neither is using your old Nokia phone whilst wearing it on either your shoulder or left breast pocket:)
If you are making a reference to the Police use of their radios clipped to their shoulder areas, then you are mistaken as they are classed as PTT devices and are exempt from the regulations…
Even though they may look like telephones, they are not.
albion1971:
peirre:
Theres been a report into the office this morning
There’s someone in the Doncaster/blyth area on the A1 going around in a car with fake red & blue lights trying to stop driversPolice in UK use blue lights so if you see red and blue ignore it.
The police on the A1 Doncaster area did have a golf gti with big alloys and black windows when it stopped vehicle s the rear window illuminated red and blue chequer.
Dented:
Mucker1:
From what I’ve seen neither is using your old Nokia phone whilst wearing it on either your shoulder or left breast pocket:)If you are making a reference to the Police use of their radios clipped to their shoulder areas, then you are mistaken as they are classed as PTT devices and are exempt from the regulations…
Even though they may look like telephones, they are not.
Not quite.
The use of ‘two way radios’ is against the law, however the police are granted dispensation. The shoulder function is more cosmetic and practicality. 9/10 police vehicles have a handsfree kit for radios these days.
Police use red white and blue. White to the front and red to the rear. The car does not have to be fitted with extra mirrors, antennae’ or anything else non standard.
A lot of unmarked vehicles are fitted with covert LED lighting so you won’t know till it’s on. Officers do not need to be in uniform when driving an unmarked car either, however they must display ID at ALL times when plain clothed unless undertaking covert duties.
The Law
On 1 December 2003, a law, “The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003”, came into force to prohibit drivers using a hand-held mobile phone, or similar device, while driving. It also made it an offence to “cause or permit” a driver to use a hand-held mobile phone while driving, or to use a hand-held mobile phone while supervising a driver who only has a provisional licence.
The penalties were initially a fixed penalty of £30 or a fine of up to £1,000 if the offender goes to court (£2,500 for drivers of goods vehicles or passenger carrying vehicles with 9 or more passenger seats). From 27th February 2007, the penalty for using a hand-held mobile phone whilst driving increased to £60 and three penalty points added to the drivers’ licence.
The Definition of a Hand-Held Mobile Phone
The Regulation includes any “device, other than a two-way radio, which performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data”.
The bit at the bottom in bold is what the regulations say. As a radio licence holder I have already used this excuse when ‘advised’ by a police officer for transmitting whilst driving.
The Law is an unmarked police car cannot stop a vehicle unless it contains at least one person in police uniform.
albion1971:
peirre:
Theres been a report into the office this morning
There’s someone in the Doncaster/blyth area on the A1 going around in a car with fake red & blue lights trying to stop driversPolice in UK use blue lights so if you see red and blue ignore it.
Red and blue on rear!!!
Mucker1:
The Law is an unmarked police car cannot stop a vehicle unless it contains at least one person in police uniform.
Wrong, imo.
stagedriver:
Dented:
Mucker1:
From what I’ve seen neither is using your old Nokia phone whilst wearing it on either your shoulder or left breast pocket:)If you are making a reference to the Police use of their radios clipped to their shoulder areas, then you are mistaken as they are classed as PTT devices and are exempt from the regulations…
Even though they may look like telephones, they are not.
Not quite.
The use of ‘two way radios’ is against the law, however the police are granted dispensation. The shoulder function is more cosmetic and practicality. 9/10 police vehicles have a handsfree kit for radios these days.
Police use red white and blue. White to the front and red to the rear. The car does not have to be fitted with extra mirrors, antennae’ or anything else non standard.
A lot of unmarked vehicles are fitted with covert LED lighting so you won’t know till it’s on. Officers do not need to be in uniform when driving an unmarked car either, however they must display ID at ALL times when plain clothed unless undertaking covert duties.
What about a CB drivers use?
Think you’ll find that using a two way radio/cb whilst on the move is not in itself illegal, you may however fall foul of the bobby who decides that you are not fully in control of your vehicle whilst using one.
Iirc the reason why Clarkson and pals use them on their road trips is that they are legal.
Mucker1:
Also even unmarked cars have additional wing mirrors above the normal ones so another thing to look for when identifying them. Their also must be at least one person in the car wearing police uniform.
Mucker1:
Wayne next time you see a Motorway Patrol Car check out the passenger wing mirror…you’ll see an extra one fitted (smaller than normal)…gives passenger same view as driver:)
Not so much these days they don’t.
