Failure to report accident etc

The police have a duty of care to investigate any allegation. Their investigation is not to prosecute someone but to gather the evidence and then report to the CPS for recommendations.

The NIP is purely sent to inform you that you are under investigation and “MAY” be prosecuted for the highlighted offences.

It’s common practice to send an NIP with all the above offences after a fail to stop collision where damage or injury has been caused. The Name of driver usually accompanies the NIP.

For the offence of failing to stop at an RTC it HAS to be proven that you (the driver) knew that the incident had occurred. This can usually be proved if there is a lot of damage to a vehicle. Witnesses or CCTV of the driver stopping and looking at the damage before driving off etc etc.

If you genuinely had no idea that a collision had occurred the the offence is not fulfilled and therefore thrown out.

However, it may be the case that you weren’t aware the collision occurred because you were driving without due care and attention. This offence has to be proved by CCTV or Witnesses stating that your standard of driving fell below that expected of a careful and competent driver. Dangerous driving is defined as; the standard falling FAR below that expected of a careful and competent driver.

The police didn’t come to see you for a statement. They came to see you for an interview under caution. Statements are only really used for witnesses, not for suspects. Likewise when you go to the police station, you will be going for a voluntary interview. If you refuse to be voluntarily interviewed you’ll probably get arrested and then formal interviewed. There’s no real difference between the two but the latter forces you to sit in an interview. It doesn’t force you to say anything, as that’s you right to silence.

If it was you driving and you genuinely had no idea that anything occurred, pop down to the station for the voluntary interview and down’t bother with a solicitor. You are entitled to one but it can take a few hours for the duty solicitor to come out.

Don’t answer this on here, but if you genuinely knew you had been involved in something, get a solicitor prior to attending an interview.

The fact that the police have / are taking ages to get back to you would suggest it’s nothing too serious and more than likely a damage only RTC.

In this day and age, the CPS will rarely authorise a charge to court unless there is at least a 95% chance of a guilty prosecution. i.e. the incident is caught on CCTV or there are several reliable independent witnesses.

The do have to give you a disclosure of the incident that occurred but they don’t have to give you all the evidence they have prior to you being interviewed. During the actual interview they ask you for an account of what happened. You can remain silent and not answer / “no comment” but from my experience, innocent people don’t “no comment” to questions. Depending what you say, or don’t say, will then depend what the police ask you / challenge you on. If your account doesn’t match their evidence they probably reveal more evidence and challenge you on what you’ve said.

Id have thought if they want you to give a statement they’d be obligated to tell you what its about but the law is such an ■■■ you can never say for sure

goshow:
The police have a duty of care to investigate any allegation. Their investigation is not to prosecute someone but to gather the evidence and then report to the CPS for recommendations.

The NIP is purely sent to inform you that you are under investigation and “MAY” be prosecuted for the highlighted offences.

It’s common practice to send an NIP with all the above offences after a fail to stop collision where damage or injury has been caused. The Name of driver usually accompanies the NIP.

For the offence of failing to stop at an RTC it HAS to be proven that you (the driver) knew that the incident had occurred. This can usually be proved if there is a lot of damage to a vehicle. Witnesses or CCTV of the driver stopping and looking at the damage before driving off etc etc. Thanks Goshow some good advice there, to be honest the Bobby I spoke to at Cheshire police was fine, he said he had a drivers statement who had made an allegation against me, he wants my side of the story, he’s not taken sides, he’s not trying to trip me up or hide anything from me, it’s my word against the other driver
I’m not bothering with a solicitor until I know if there will be charges against me
I feel a little more positive after speaking to the officer at Cheshire police today.
Thanks again to everyone for advising me

Thanks Goshow

goshow:
The police have a duty of care to investigate any allegation. Their investigation is not to prosecute someone but to gather the evidence and then report to the CPS for recommendations.

The NIP is purely sent to inform you that you are under investigation and “MAY” be prosecuted for the highlighted offences.

It’s common practice to send an NIP with all the above offences after a fail to stop collision where damage or injury has been caused. The Name of driver usually accompanies the NIP.

For the offence of failing to stop at an RTC it HAS to be proven that you (the driver) knew that the incident had occurred. This can usually be proved if there is a lot of damage to a vehicle. Witnesses or CCTV of the driver stopping and looking at the damage before driving off etc etc.

If you genuinely had no idea that a collision had occurred the the offence is not fulfilled and therefore thrown out.

However, it may be the case that you weren’t aware the collision occurred because you were driving without due care and attention. This offence has to be proved by CCTV or Witnesses stating that your standard of driving fell below that expected of a careful and competent driver. Dangerous driving is defined as; the standard falling FAR below that expected of a careful and competent driver.

The police didn’t come to see you for a statement. They came to see you for an interview under caution. Statements are only really used for witnesses, not for suspects. Likewise when you go to the police station, you will be going for a voluntary interview. If you refuse to be voluntarily interviewed you’ll probably get arrested and then formal interviewed. There’s no real difference between the two but the latter forces you to sit in an interview. It doesn’t force you to say anything, as that’s you right to silence.

If it was you driving and you genuinely had no idea that anything occurred, pop down to the station for the voluntary interview and down’t bother with a solicitor. You are entitled to one but it can take a few hours for the duty solicitor to come out.

Don’t answer this on here, but if you genuinely knew you had been involved in something, get a solicitor prior to attending an interview.

The fact that the police have / are taking ages to get back to you would suggest it’s nothing too serious and more than likely a damage only RTC.

In this day and age, the CPS will rarely authorise a charge to court unless there is at least a 95% chance of a guilty prosecution. i.e. the incident is caught on CCTV or there are several reliable independent witnesses.

The do have to give you a disclosure of the incident that occurred but they don’t have to give you all the evidence they have prior to you being interviewed. During the actual interview they ask you for an account of what happened. You can remain silent and not answer / “no comment” but from my experience, innocent people don’t “no comment” to questions. Depending what you say, or don’t say, will then depend what the police ask you / challenge you on. If your account doesn’t match their evidence they probably reveal more evidence and challenge you on what you’ve said.

If you genuinely had no idea that a collision had occurred the the offence is not fulfilled and therefore thrown out.

However, it may be the case that you weren’t aware the collision occurred because you were driving without due care and attention. This offence has to be proved by CCTV or Witnesses stating that your standard of driving fell below that expected of a careful and competent driver. Dangerous driving is defined as; the standard falling FAR below that expected of a careful and competent driver.

The police didn’t come to see you for a statement. They came to see you for an interview under caution. Statements are only really used for witnesses, not for suspects. Likewise when you go to the police station, you will be going for a voluntary interview. If you refuse to be voluntarily interviewed you’ll probably get arrested and then formal interviewed. There’s no real difference between the two but the latter forces you to sit in an interview. It doesn’t force you to say anything, as that’s you right to silence.

If it was you driving and you genuinely had no idea that anything occurred, pop down to the station for the voluntary interview and down’t bother with a solicitor. You are entitled to one but it can take a few hours for the duty solicitor to come out.

Don’t answer this on here, but if you genuinely knew you had been involved in something, get a solicitor prior to attending an interview.

The fact that the police have / are taking ages to get back to you would suggest it’s nothing too serious and more than likely a damage only RTC.

In this day and age, the CPS will rarely authorise a charge to court unless there is at least a 95% chance of a guilty prosecution. i.e. the incident is caught on CCTV or there are several reliable independent witnesses.

The do have to give you a disclosure of the incident that occurred but they don’t have to give you all the evidence they have prior to you being interviewed. During the actual interview they ask you for an account of what happened. You can remain silent and not answer / “no comment” but from my experience, innocent people don’t “no comment” to questions. Depending what you say, or don’t say, will then depend what the police ask you / challenge you on. If your account doesn’t match their evidence they probably reveal more evidence and challenge you on what you’ve said.

you will not be interviewed to help you…you will be interviewed to help them. my solicitors advice for the 1st interview irrespective of whether he was there or not is.no comment to everything,then see what cards they lay on the table after that…you are not there to do their job for them,or to make their job easier.ignorant or not,then by doing so you only harm yourself.they will be well accustomed to a no comment interview anyway.if they dont come clean and upfront with you,then no comment to everything,then let them show their hand after that…good cop or bad cop,itl be the old pals act and a few questions to clear it up,and put your neck in the noose at the same time.just be polite and firm,and let them do their job themselfs.they want you down the nick to make it easy for them,not to help you.

If the alleged incident took place in Cheshire, why are they sending Lancashire police to investigate/interview you? Make sure you have a solicitor with you during all interviews, for nothing more than making sure proper procedure is followed.

Captain Caveman 76:
If the alleged incident took place in Cheshire, why are they sending Lancashire police to investigate/interview you? Make sure you have a solicitor with you during all interviews, for nothing more than making sure proper procedure is followed.

It’s because I live in Lancashire, and Cheshire police who are investigating are in Congleton, Cheshire.
It’ easier for my local police to interview me, I’ve elected to go to Congleton to attend interview, I want to deal direct with the officer who is investigating the matter.

I was told many years ago that when dealing with a company investigation or the Police to ‘never volunteer any information’. Always only answer questions put to you and then concisely, do not elaborate. You have your already submitted answer that you are not aware of any collision. Don’t give a narrative of events on the day; which is where they are trying to trip you up, let them ask you eg: whether you were on the A1234 heading North. What direction did you go at such and such a junction etc ?

Muckaway:

nightline:
They are fishing for a scapegoat you should have just returned the letter without filling out anything and put a note in sorry got wrong person, because you filled it in you gave them reason to follow up and they dont even have any evidence, so by you filling it out they will make you prove its not you, big mistake good luck

Go back and read Pepipoo and other armchair lawyer sites. Any hint of attitute or arrogance will make things worse.

Well if he listened to waffle coming from the likes of yourself he would be hung from the nearest pole you see the difference is i know what I’m talking about as you ain’t got a clue another professional dreamer

nightline:

Muckaway:

nightline:
They are fishing for a scapegoat you should have just returned the letter without filling out anything and put a note in sorry got wrong person, because you filled it in you gave them reason to follow up and they dont even have any evidence, so by you filling it out they will make you prove its not you, big mistake good luck

Go back and read Pepipoo and other armchair lawyer sites. Any hint of attitute or arrogance will make things worse.

Well if he listened to waffle coming from the likes of yourself he would be hung from the nearest pole you see the difference is i know what I’m talking about as you ain’t got a clue another professional dreamer

Really. It worked for me which is all I care about.