the grapevine revealed that VOSA is possibly being privatised. i have 2 viewpoints on this. 1. it would save the government some expense which adds credibility
on the other hand, they have allowed cowboy clampers to run wild and are now waking up to the fact that those companies are unscrupulous and and actively trying to create financial gain rather than actually enforce parking restrictions fairly. like any type of authority, the focus would be on making money rather than doing the job for which these companies are intended to do ie punish cowboy operators and increase the safety on the roads (supposedly )
i cant see it happening but you never really know what screw ups the government is capable of. they have allowed the RTD and drivers CPC havent they?
Unscrupulous cowboys whose sole intention would be to raise money? In what way would that be any different than the current bunch of tossers that wear the uniform?
maurice:
Unscrupulous cowboys whose sole intention would be to raise money? In what way would that be any different than the current bunch of tossers that wear the uniform?
i agree with you but at least as a government agency, they should be more interested in road safety than anything else. any private company is trying to make a profit and so their motivation is completely different, possibly even commission based which would be both a shambles and a disaster. for the sake of the industry i hope this is just an urban myth and nothing more
The job is hard enough as it is but vosa are on a major power trip these days.
I heard of them pulling a new truck which had only been to pick up a new trailer and spending an hour going over it. It had just been tested for god sake.
My boss has a saying-“Keep it right” which we do our best to do. But we are only human and mistakes may be made. Never on purpose though. I know people who run bent and seem to get away with everything even though vosa know about them.
It may be that the inspectors are self financing already■■?
The government should try other law enforcement privatisation like the police, the army, customs and excise, the tax office etc.
how do all?? new to ere…but thot id add my info!!! vosa are now self funding!!! so mond how u go out there!!! i was an mot tester for 12 yr bofore i decided to join the truckers world!!! evev tho big bro is out there a think its the mutsnuts!!!
scanny77:
the grapevine revealed that VOSA is possibly being privatised. i have 2 viewpoints on this. 1. it would save the government some expense which adds credibility
on the other hand, they have allowed cowboy clampers to run wild and are now waking up to the fact that those companies are unscrupulous and and actively trying to create financial gain rather than actually enforce parking restrictions fairly. like any type of authority, the focus would be on making money rather than doing the job for which these companies are intended to do ie punish cowboy operators and increase the safety on the roads (supposedly )
i cant see it happening but you never really know what screw ups the government is capable of. they have allowed the RTD and drivers CPC havent they?
From what I have heard it is only the “testing” side of Vosa that is being privatised.
I told this forum months ago that VOSA were self funded and i was told that i didn’t know
what i was on about.
I told you all that VOSA will only get money from the fines they dish out.
All the big wigs on here who think they know everything…well you were wrong !
scanny77:
the grapevine revealed that VOSA is possibly being privatised. i have 2 viewpoints on this. 1. it would save the government some expense which adds credibility
on the other hand, they have allowed cowboy clampers to run wild and are now waking up to the fact that those companies are unscrupulous and and actively trying to create financial gain rather than actually enforce parking restrictions fairly. like any type of authority, the focus would be on making money rather than doing the job for which these companies are intended to do ie punish cowboy operators and increase the safety on the roads (supposedly )
i cant see it happening but you never really know what screw ups the government is capable of. they have allowed the RTD and drivers CPC havent they?
From what I have heard it is only the “testing” side of Vosa that is being privatised.
The “enforcement” side will remain a public body
so it will be more like a car MOT? a pass or fail depends on how stringent they are and whether or not the tester got some last night?
Guys, not taking sides as I can see all sides to these situations,
VOSA are not self funding. Any fines go straight to government and none of the examiners are urged to generate revenue through fines. Fixed penalties simply remove the reporting for court process in many cases. Probably nobody will beleive this but hey…
Oh and as for being pulled in a new truck and it taking time, I guess nobody would commit drivers hours offences in anything younger than 2 years old!
tricky620:
rumor has it they are now self funding ie fines issued they get a percentage
How can VOSA be self funding?
Do the sums, even if they do get a %age of fine money that wouldnt bring in enough to run it for an hour let alone fund itself. When you add up the cost of premises,vehicles, equipment, staff, fuel, electricity etc, paperwork, insurance, tax, uniforms, training, tyres, servicing etc etc etc the fines would need to be in the thousands per fault to cover that lot.
only goin on wot was said to me when i went in to test a trailer. i spoke to the guy who put me thru my mot course sum 12yr ago!!! he said he was in testing station as vosa wer skint and the testing stations wer main prority so he was taken off roadside stuff to cover a testing station…but at same time these guys r human too!!! of sorts!!! just gotta go by book n all will be good!!!
scanny77:
the grapevine revealed that VOSA is possibly being privatised. i have 2 viewpoints on this. 1. it would save the government some expense which adds credibility
Of all the PFI,shareholder,stakeholder partnerships that have evolved out of any recent governments they all claim to offer a cost effective solution. Whilst their figures look great our income tax has not gone down and the PFI partnerships boast great profits, so i would doubt their actual cost effectivness to the taxpayer.
scanny77:
on the other hand, they have allowed cowboy clampers to run wild and are now waking up to the fact that those companies are unscrupulous and and actively trying to create financial gain rather than actually enforce parking restrictions fairly. like any type of authority, the focus would be on making money rather than doing the job for which these companies are intended to do ie punish cowboy operators and increase the safety on the roads (supposedly )
They’re now waking up are they?!!! They’ve always been awake, they know full well the financial implications before they outsource these operations. Thats why they are lobbied and courted to open up these opportunities to companies.
scanny77:
i cant see it happening but you never really know what screw ups the government is capable of. they have allowed the RTD and drivers CPC havent they?
You’re gonna need to get to grips with how this all works !!! Not allowing the RTD and CPC are NOT OPTIONS for ANY government we’ve had. We’re legally bound to adopt this EU legislation with any of the current major parties.
bigjim1976:
only goin on wot was said to me when i went in to test a trailer. i spoke to the guy who put me thru my mot course sum 12yr ago!!! he said he was in testing station as vosa wer skint and the testing stations wer main prority so he was taken off roadside stuff to cover a testing station…but at same time these guys r human too!!! of sorts!!! just gotta go by book n all will be good!!!
Could also be due to being made to downsize in staff, having a civil service wide recruitment ban and having the same numbers of commercial vehicles needing testing, hence the only option is to use technically trained enforcment staff to cover test lanes at times… maybe?
VOSA are self-funded and thats from a mate that works for them. They are not only involved in enforcement, they also have the operators licences and they are involved with type approval etc. My mate works most of his time with Volvo and Volvo get charged for his work.
bristolron:
VOSA are self-funded and thats from a mate that works for them. They are not only involved in enforcement, they also have the operators licences and they are involved with type approval etc. My mate works most of his time with Volvo and Volvo get charged for his work.
Not through fines.
Fees from testing etc will certainly go a long way towards the upkeep, but def nothing to do with fines.
bigjim1976:
only goin on wot was said to me when i went in to test a trailer. i spoke to the guy who put me thru my mot course sum 12yr ago!!! he said he was in testing station as vosa wer skint and the testing stations wer main prority so he was taken off roadside stuff to cover a testing station…but at same time these guys r human too!!! of sorts!!! just gotta go by book n all will be good!!!
Could also be due to being made to downsize in staff, having a civil service wide recruitment ban and having the same numbers of commercial vehicles needing testing, hence the only option is to use technically trained enforcment staff to cover test lanes at times… maybe?
When I asked a tester about the implications of the ABS light showing on the dashboard, his reply was “you will have to speak to an enforcement officer, I am a tester”
Another point regarding self-funding. At a test station my vehicle failed on brake imbalance. I rectified the “fault” and contacted them for a retest. I was given one for that afternoon. No problem you might think, but when I booked the original test there was a three week delay, but a retest could be carried out on the following day. By coincidence the day after the fees had gone up and retests cost the same as the original test. Am I just being cynical?
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