killsville:
Spardo:
[One for the oldiesEureka
Salut, David.
Nice to see a picture of ‘A proper wagon’ in this post!
Yep - what a spot-on lorry! And it looks like a Nightingale sleeper too, which is pretty rare. Don’t think that it will have a 180 ■■■■■■■ in it though - it would be a 220 or 250
I’ve heard that there is an ex-Econofreight Borderer in preservation, but I don’t know if it’s this one.
It wouldn’t be this one by any chance would it?
240 Gardner:
Yep - what a spot-on lorry! And it looks like a Nightingale sleeper too, which is pretty rare. Don’t think that it will have a 180 ■■■■■■■ in it though - it would be a 220 or 250
I’ve heard that there is an ex-Econofreight Borderer in preservation, but I don’t know if it’s this one.
You’re right 240 it was a 220. This was one of a complete fleet of such
conversions for the Leicester depot in the 1970’s, ordered by Tom Llewellyn
the MD at HO Thornaby after each depot was given a vote - more night out
money or sleepers. Thornaby went for the money, Leicester for the comfort
(well anything is better than draped across a bonnet). This is why Marky the
one you picture would be ex Thornaby if it is ex Econofreight.
Another point. What do you notice about my motor? Perhaps the lack of
Atkinson, Big A, Silver Knight or ■■■■■■■ badges? One of Tom’s hangups. He wouldn’t
give free advertising and when the Atki dealer thought he was joking, removed
all the insignia. Thus if ROC 141M is ex Econofreight it has had more
restoration than usual.
You will also notice no crash bar. A D8 pulled that off trying to extract me from
the mire on the roundabout at N. Circular and Woodford Rd., A104 when I was
delivering beams for the construction of the flyover above. Got a rollicking for
that. We were expected to go off road to tip but if there was any damage it was
our fault. Fair eh?
This motor was the only one with power steering, as a newbie I was promoted
from the day cabbed Foden 240 Gardner I had started on, and was very
chuffed. It came in very handy squeezing 50’ Portokabins from country lanes
into farm gates! The Gillyott & Scott trailer was a brief (one week) fling at doing
a bit of tipper work. It sooned dawned they weren’t making any money at it.
Lastly those weedy little orange flashers on the roof were Tom’s concession
to abnormal load warning signs. You could hardly notice them but they may
have saved the life of one driver. He disappeared for more than 24 hours and
was eventually discovered by a police patrol in that lay by on Purley Way who
noticed he had been there a long time with the little lights getting weaker and
weaker. He was taken to hospital with a suspected heart attack and, after
managing to climb into the bunk unwell, reached over and flicked the switch
before passing out. Turned out he had pleurisy but you don’t lie prone for 24
hours without being seriously ill.
Salut, David.
Spardo:
240 Gardner:
Yep - what a spot-on lorry! And it looks like a Nightingale sleeper too, which is pretty rare. Don’t think that it will have a 180 ■■■■■■■ in it though - it would be a 220 or 250
I’ve heard that there is an ex-Econofreight Borderer in preservation, but I don’t know if it’s this one.
You’re right 240 it was a 220. This was one of a complete fleet of such
conversions for the Leicester depot in the 1970’s, ordered by Tom Llewellyn
the MD at HO Thornaby after each depot was given a vote - more night out
money or sleepers. Thornaby went for the money, Leicester for the comfort
(well anything is better than draped across a bonnet). This is why Marky the
one you picture would be ex Thornaby if it is ex Econofreight.Another point. What do you notice about my motor? Perhaps the lack of
Atkinson, Big A, Silver Knight or ■■■■■■■ badges? One of Tom’s hangups. He wouldn’t
give free advertising and when the Atki dealer thought he was joking, removed
all the insignia. Thus if ROC 141M is ex Econofreight it has had more
restoration than usual.You will also notice no crash bar. A D8 pulled that off trying to extract me from
the mire on the roundabout at N. Circular and Woodford Rd., A104 when I was
delivering beams for the construction of the flyover above. Got a rollicking for
that. We were expected to go off road to tip but if there was any damage it was
our fault. Fair eh?This motor was the only one with power steering, as a newbie I was promoted
from the day cabbed Foden 240 Gardner I had started on, and was very
chuffed. It came in very handy squeezing 50’ Portokabins from country lanes
into farm gates! The Gillyott & Scott trailer was a brief (one week) fling at doing
a bit of tipper work. It sooned dawned they weren’t making any money at it.Lastly those weedy little orange flashers on the roof were Tom’s concession
to abnormal load warning signs. You could hardly notice them but they may
have saved the life of one driver. He disappeared for more than 24 hours and
was eventually discovered by a police patrol in that lay by on Purley Way who
noticed he had been there a long time with the little lights getting weaker and
weaker. He was taken to hospital with a suspected heart attack and, after
managing to climb into the bunk unwell, reached over and flicked the switch
before passing out. Turned out he had pleurisy but you don’t lie prone for 24
hours without being seriously ill.Salut, David.
Fascinating! Thanks very much for that David - I hadn’t realised it was your motor. Sounds like you had some fun with it… !!
marky:
It wouldn’t be this one by any chance would it?
So who owns this one then? I’ve seen it before when it was a tired-looking orange and white. I’ve read about an Econofreight Borderer being bought by a ■■■■■■■■ of TC’s acquaintance (ask him!), but I’ve a vague idea that it was one with a sleeper on it
I don’t know who owns that one, but I have seen it out & about on various rally fields.
I’ll ask Mr. Teacake which Econofreight wagon he knows about when I speak to him tonight.
PS - where did you get that picture of 150 from?
I think RDC141M was/is owned by Stuart Hudson from Leeds. I’ve seen him pulling a low loader with a traction engine on the back.
When I saw it at Ackworth last summer it was being driven by the bloke who owns the wrecker with the 240 Gardner in it. (Coney Moor Garage)
Here is a photo from Ackworth.
marky:
I don’t know who owns that one, but I have seen it out & about on various rally fields.I’ll ask Mr. Teacake which Econofreight wagon he knows about when I speak to him tonight.
PS - where did you get that picture of 150 from?
lorryphotos
marky:
I don’t know who owns that one, but I have seen it out & about on various rally fields.I’ll ask Mr. Teacake which Econofreight wagon he knows about when I speak to him tonight.
kevin may not know about the Econofreight wagon - I think that that came from the CAC newsletter. But the gentleman in question used to live in Windermere - TC will know who you mean
Identity established - and the wagon is an ex-Econofreight Borderer with a sleeper.
As far as can be established it still exists as well.
marky:
Identity established - and the wagon is an ex-Econofreight Borderer with a sleeper.As far as can be established it still exists as well.
This is interesting Marky. That means it is a Leicester wagon. Any chance you could find out which one, with a picture perhaps? What a coincidence if it turned out to be TDC 729M.
Salut, David.
Well done David, knew you’d get the hang of it 
More pics now please
Craig
Craig 111:
Well done David, knew you’d get the hang of itMore pics now please
Craig
It was a bit of a struggle but I got there in the end!
Been meaning to pm you to say how much we enjoyed the meal tout ensemble and that I may have a proposition for Valerie - entirely professional of course.
But, as usual, when you are retired the time just flashes by.
Salut, David.
Great Pic’s