I see daily Drivers who at the end of a daily shift look like they have gone through a day in Iraq in 1990.not gone out for a honest days work.I’d like to start a name and shame blog on unscrupulous hauliers who rendered them into that condition. I know Stobarts,will rank high,as will all,yes all container companys.IE over 5 days max hours plus 4 N/out receive £600 or less.Them and their likes never disclose their pay structure. At least we collectley can ensure,we don’t waste our time in attending dead end interviews.
No one has a gun at their heads.
Some work hard and some are not Fit. But each has a Shift of high Concentration behind him.
Not the companies fault,every drive can only work for the same amount of hours before a break and have to have the same rest before starting again the next day…if a driver doesn’t rest in that time that’s their fault.
Container drivers rarely get tired apart from normal early start related day to day tiredness
Although I did have trouble with me back doors the other day, needed quite a hammering to get em open. Quite a workout and the young lad whos hammer I was using was sweating cobs as well.
Admitedly after a 9 hour + driving session (usual break requirements taken etc) I may feel a tad tired but minimal compared to what shenanigans we used to get up to.
Other sectors like general haulage, multi drop deserves far more sympathy.
The worst is the drive to the first drop, after that then I’m ok even on 2 hours of sleep.
Dipper_Dave:
Container drivers rarely get tired apart from normal early start related day to day tiredness
Although I did have trouble with me back doors the other day, needed quite a hammering to get em open. Quite a workout and the young lad whos hammer I was using was sweating cobs as well.Admitedly after a 9 hour + driving session (usual break requirements taken etc) I may feel a tad tired but minimal compared to what shenanigans we used to get up to.
Other sectors like general haulage, multi drop deserves far more sympathy.
I hope this young lad was of legal age for you to be letting him hammer in your back doors.
xichrisxi:
Dipper_Dave:
Container drivers rarely get tired apart from normal early start related day to day tiredness
Although I did have trouble with me back doors the other day, needed quite a hammering to get em open. Quite a workout and the young lad whos hammer I was using was sweating cobs as well.Admitedly after a 9 hour + driving session (usual break requirements taken etc) I may feel a tad tired but minimal compared to what shenanigans we used to get up to.
Other sectors like general haulage, multi drop deserves far more sympathy.
I hope this young lad was of legal age for you to be letting him hammer in your back doors.
Ooooohhhhh yes, and I made sure he was wearing full PPE and rubber gloves.
Dipper_Dave:
xichrisxi:
Dipper_Dave:
Container drivers rarely get tired apart from normal early start related day to day tiredness
Although I did have trouble with me back doors the other day, needed quite a hammering to get em open. Quite a workout and the young lad whos hammer I was using was sweating cobs as well.Admitedly after a 9 hour + driving session (usual break requirements taken etc) I may feel a tad tired but minimal compared to what shenanigans we used to get up to.
Other sectors like general haulage, multi drop deserves far more sympathy.
I hope this young lad was of legal age for you to be letting him hammer in your back doors.
Ooooohhhhh yes, and I made sure he was wearing full PPE and rubber gloves.
And a dab of fifth wheel grease.
Immigrant:
Some work hard and some are not Fit. But each has a Shift of high Concentration behind him.
Yep, potatoe…
Radar19:
The worst is the drive to the first drop, after that then I’m ok even on 2 hours of sleep.
This ^^^^^^^.
It’s not just the job that does u in,in an ideal world finish work go home tea shower feet up but that’s not the case most times,so a normal day can feel just as bad as a manic one.
Nobody should be allowed to work 15 hours. If you start at 4/5 am you should be home watching tv at 3/4pm at the latest. But as long as the law permits then transport companies will take the pee out of drivers. The law needs changing asap.
Thanks fella’s for a sensible reply.maybe more will come,
as long as haulage firms can plan and work you for 15hr shifts they will you hear a lot about doctors airline pilots working DANGEROUS hours but us drivers never get a mention
Railway workers in safety critical roles can only work a max of 12hours at any time wonder why that is wouldnt be due to them having one of those useless unions working for them would it ?
I don’t need a union to work less hours, a simple ‘no’ usually suffices. Or if pushed ‘sorry I’m tired’ works wonders.
Balls gentlemen please 
Sometime short shift more hard to work.Because if driver just drive, swap trailers and break snd back.so all the time in duty.But some time 15 hours but 3-6 hours sleep in truck .And all depend how driver prepared to work.How long he sleep.Dribers can get 16 hours rest but sleep just 3 hours.Must not just hate companies but as well think about self and own health.
Rog270:
I see daily Drivers who at the end of a daily shift look like they have gone through a day in Iraq in 1990.not gone out for a honest days work.I’d like to start a name and shame blog on unscrupulous hauliers who rendered them into that condition. I know Stobarts,will rank high,as will all,yes all container companys.IE over 5 days max hours plus 4 N/out receive £600 or less.Them and their likes never disclose their pay structure. At least we collectley can ensure,we don’t waste our time in attending dead end interviews.
The drivers you mention have only themselves to blame, they choose to work for such companies, they choose to live an un-healthy lifestyle they smoke drink and eat bad food and don’t take any exercise and they don’t know when to say no.
And the biggest mistake of all, they have involved themselves in for profit transport.
As if a fifteen-hour shift wasn’t bad enough, it’s also what you have to do during it that counts as well.
A day’s shift for me can comprise a 150-mile drive, followed by 10-12 drops, handballing white goods, mainly washing machines and fridge freezers (and my truck can hold around 80 individual mixed items, doubled up)…and then another 150-mile drive back to the yard. To be fair the shift rarely stretches to the max, but it can be around 13-14 hours. Then it’s back in the next day to deliver more of the same. There’s no way the regulations can take into account what individual drivers have to physically do during the course of a day, so my boss seems to think that a shift like that is perfectly acceptable. The problem is that in the past, other drivers have been stupid enough to complete similar runs by hook or by crook, so my boss thinks everybody should be able to do it.
All I can do is insist on taking a full eleven hour rest break between shifts.
And when I get home, I’ll kiss the dog, pat the wife, and be fast asleep on the couch ten minutes later.
Plastic chicken:
As if a fifteen-hour shift wasn’t bad enough, it’s also what you have to do during it that counts as well.A day’s shift for me can comprise a 150-mile drive, followed by 10-12 drops, handballing white goods, mainly washing machines and fridge freezers (and my truck can hold around 80 individual mixed items, doubled up)…and then another 150-mile drive back to the yard. To be fair the shift rarely stretches to the max, but it can be around 13-14 hours. Then it’s back in the next day to deliver more of the same. There’s no way the regulations can take into account what individual drivers have to physically do during the course of a day, so my boss seems to think that a shift like that is perfectly acceptable. The problem is that in the past, other drivers have been stupid enough to complete similar runs by hook or by crook, so my boss thinks everybody should be able to do it.
All I can do is insist on taking a full eleven hour rest break between shifts.
And when I get home, I’ll kiss the dog, pat the wife, and be fast asleep on the couch ten minutes later.
Sounds just like another driver on this forum I know. (Not that he ever has time to post! 
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Multi-dropping in my limited opinion should be restricted to shorter hours!