It appears that no one is squeaky clean.
However, Just to chear you up, Stobarts arn’t on the list.
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When carrying fire extiguisher’s, do they have to be in a proper box fitted to vehicle by law ?
“Fire extinguisher not inspected, no evidence to prove otherwise”
I might be dull, but I always thought that its policeman job to prove you are guilty, not your job to prove that you are not a camel…
Unless there is the law saying you have to carry these documents with you, how they can do it?
ADR Orys, yes, you need the correct documentation.
orys:
“Fire extinguisher not inspected, no evidence to prove otherwise”I might be dull, but I always thought that its policeman job to prove you are guilty, not your job to prove that you are not a camel…
Unless there is the law saying you have to carry these documents with you, how they can do it?
There is a law saying these items need to be inspected. The inspection will be confirmed with a sticker. No eveidence to prove otherwise, i assume means no inspection sticker.
To be honest the HSE law (or the laws they enforce) bear no resembalance to how other laws are enforced. For example you (as an employer) would not get a fine for not training your driver to use his tail lift. But if he has an accident and he’s had no training, you would. Its like a ‘retrospective’ type law. Bizzare !
cieranc:
ADR Orys, yes, you need the correct documentation.
It applies to everyone, not just ADR its called PUWER, the Provision and Use of Work Related Equiptment Regulations. And if you look at it it’ll make your toes curl !!!
Do all LGVs have to carry a fire extinguisher? (stowed correctly and in date) or is it just ADR?
chester:
Do all LGVs have to carry a fire extinguisher? (stowed correctly and in date) or is it just ADR?
Ilive in Spain (Canary islands) we have to by law carry fire extinguishers and have the paperwork up to date,ie checked yearly.
orys:
I might be dull, but I always thought that its policeman job to prove you are guilty, not your job to prove that you are not a camel…
In this country the police present any evidence found during such inspections to the Crown Prosecution Service who decide whether or not to bring a prosecution, VOSA on the other hand, have their own prosecutions department & bring their own cases to court.
Ross.
I’m just wondering what the particular interest in Rose Ltd of Newark is. 
chester:
Do all LGVs have to carry a fire extinguisher? (stowed correctly and in date) or is it just ADR?
Unless its changed its law in europe but not UK though most modern units have them fitted
taffytrucker:
chester:
Do all LGVs have to carry a fire extinguisher? (stowed correctly and in date) or is it just ADR?Unless its changed its law in europe but not UK though most modern units have them fitted
It varies from country to country…
Harry Monk:
I’m just wondering what the particular interest in Rose Ltd of Newark is.
I’ve never heard of them but 
chester:
Do all LGVs have to carry a fire extinguisher? (stowed correctly and in date) or is it just ADR?
Our ADR vehicles have to carry a certain number of extinguishers. One of our ADR drivers, returning empty to base early one morning, witnessed a bad RTA. He used his cab extinguisher, and one of the coppers on scene gave him a written note to explain to whoever else might stop him why the extinguisher was discharged. Otherise he’d have been in trouble if stopped.
plannerman:
chester:
Do all LGVs have to carry a fire extinguisher? (stowed correctly and in date) or is it just ADR?Our ADR vehicles have to carry a certain number of extinguishers. One of our ADR drivers, returning empty to base early one morning, witnessed a bad RTA. He used his cab extinguisher, and one of the coppers on scene gave him a written note to explain to whoever else might stop him why the extinguisher was discharged. Otherise he’d have been in trouble if stopped.
Could see that ending up in the tacho roll debate… You must carry 1, wait, you must carry a spare incase you use that 1… 
Too many rules, everyone knows if you’re on ADR, it’s because the goods are DANGEROUS, so if there’s a fire, you run like ■■■■ 
Harry Monk:
I’m just wondering what the particular interest in Rose Ltd of Newark is.
I would suggest the driver of the A Rose (Newark) Ltd vehicle was stopped by VOSA and for whatever reason failed the attitude test.