switchlogic:
FFS, more misplaced blame. This country is a joke. Everyone can see it but the voters.
I think the voters - will be seeing this one, somehow…
I’ve zero faith left in the voters at this stage.
I’m surprised someone from Wales is not a little bit sympathetic to the reason a lot of people voted leave.
After all it was the poor/working class people that swung the brexit vote.
Heck your a HGV driver as well. You must of known about ‘certain’ firms exclusively recruiting people from Romania. In the industrial estate I worked out of I saw the minibus bringing drivers and warehouse workers in. I even asked about applying to a place once only to get told ‘sorry we only use a Romanian recruitment agency for driving jobs’.
I just dont get how anyone could see it was right that Driving and Warehouse jobs in Dagenham and the surrounding areas were only being advertised to people in Bucharest etc.
I also personally don’t buy the argument that people in the local area are not willing to do the job. Yea, they may be unwilling to unload containers for £7 p/hr. (Even though that was my first job for 3 years I did it). If you pay people enough money they will do it.
But businesses just had no incentive to up the rates beyond min wage when they could source cheap labor elsewhere.
Either way, when you get back to driving a truck again you can thank the voters for the much better rates you will likely receive.
Juddian:
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The only chance we have is if Lawrence Fox can get agreement to form one large alternative party out of the myriad of smaller ones, whether that will happen will show whether the country is worth or can be saved, if they can’t put their petty differences and overinflated egos to one side for the sake of saving this country and its future, then its all over…oh and keep Farage out of it for goodness sake, he’ll only welch to save the tories at the last minute.
switchlogic:
FFS, more misplaced blame. This country is a joke. Everyone can see it but the voters.
I think the voters - will be seeing this one, somehow…
I’ve zero faith left in the voters at this stage.
I’m surprised someone from Wales is not a little bit sympathetic to the reason a lot of people voted leave.
After all it was the poor/working class people that swung the brexit vote.
Heck your a HGV driver as well. You must of known about ‘certain’ firms exclusively recruiting people from Romania. In the industrial estate I worked out of I saw the minibus bringing drivers and warehouse workers in. I even asked about applying to a place once only to get told ‘sorry we only use a Romanian recruitment agency for driving jobs’.
I just dont get how anyone could see it was right that Driving and Warehouse jobs in Dagenham and the surrounding areas were only being advertised to people in Bucharest etc.
I also personally don’t buy the argument that people in the local area are not willing to do the job. Yea, they may be unwilling to unload containers for £7 p/hr. (Even though that was my first job for 3 years I did it). If you pay people enough money they will do it.
But businesses just had no incentive to up the rates beyond min wage when they could source cheap labor elsewhere.
Either way, when you get back to driving a truck again you can thank the voters for the much better rates you will likely receive.
Juddian:
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The only chance we have is if Lawrence Fox can get agreement to form one large alternative party out of the myriad of smaller ones, whether that will happen will show whether the country is worth or can be saved, if they can’t put their petty differences and overinflated egos to one side for the sake of saving this country and its future, then its all over…oh and keep Farage out of it for goodness sake, he’ll only welch to save the tories at the last minute.
FFS Richard Tice please! not some “celebrity”
For goodness sake, i expect Switchy to grab the wrong end of the stick as he always does whilst sniggering at his own jokes.
No i don’t expect Fox to be some born again leader of a combined opposition (Lord knows Labour aren’t even up to that task), but being a non politician he might just pull off getting them to work together under one banner to fight elections for the millions of us that have no representation, there are millions of us who will not vote for the supposed least dangerous of 2.5 unelectable dead parties dedicated to attaining power for themselves and their owners.
The alternative, either of the 2.5 cheeks of the same arse carrying on running the country into the toilet, while evangelists from here worshipping both camps yelling yah boo ■■■■■ at each other, in the incredible belief that either of the main parties could be any less useless than the other is just too ludicrous to contemplate.
Juddian:
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The only chance we have is if Lawrence Fox can get agreement to form one large alternative party out of the myriad of smaller ones, whether that will happen will show whether the country is worth or can be saved, if they can’t put their petty differences and overinflated egos to one side for the sake of saving this country and its future, then its all over…oh and keep Farage out of it for goodness sake, he’ll only welch to save the tories at the last minute.
FFS Richard Tice please! not some “celebrity”
For goodness sake, i expect Switchy to grab the wrong end of the stick as he always does whilst sniggering at his own jokes.
No i don’t expect Fox to be some born again leader of a combined opposition (Lord knows Labour aren’t even up to that task), but being a non politician he might just pull off getting them to work together under one banner to fight elections for the millions of us that have no representation, there are millions of us who will not vote for the supposed least dangerous of 2.5 unelectable dead parties dedicated to attaining power for themselves and their owners.
The alternative, either of the 2.5 cheeks of the same arse carrying on running the country into the toilet, while evangelists from here worshipping both camps yelling yah boo ■■■■■ at each other, in the incredible belief that either of the main parties could be any less useless than the other is just too ludicrous to contemplate.
Lawrence Fox
Don’t need to grab wrong end of stick to laugh at that statement chap. Lawrence Fox is a staggeringly hilarious choice even from you. He’s a joke who isn’t even very good at playing to the audience he’s desperately hoping to get and repeatedly fails to. Despite MASSIVE media coverage he got 1.9% of vote in London mayoral election and lost his deposit. You’re hanging your hopes on the wrong guy, I doubt he can even get his family to work together
switchlogic:
Don’t need to grab wrong end of stick to laugh at that statement chap. Lawrence Fox is a staggeringly hilarious choice even from you. He’s a joke who isn’t even very good at playing to the audience he’s desperately hoping to get and repeatedly fails to. Despite MASSIVE media coverage he got 1.9% of vote in London mayoral election and lost his deposit. You’re hanging your hopes on the wrong guy, I doubt he can even get his family to work together
Hilarious jokes don’t get much more hilarious than the idea that London’s mayoral ballot count can be trusted to be accurate any more than those of Zimbawe’s or Guatemala’s.
Anyway who is Lawrence Fox I’ve never heard of him.Luckily we aren’t part of the Greater London banana republic…yet.
switchlogic:
Don’t need to grab wrong end of stick to laugh at that statement chap. Lawrence Fox is a staggeringly hilarious choice even from you. He’s a joke who isn’t even very good at playing to the audience he’s desperately hoping to get and repeatedly fails to. Despite MASSIVE media coverage he got 1.9% of vote in London mayoral election and lost his deposit. You’re hanging your hopes on the wrong guy, I doubt he can even get his family to work together
Hilarious jokes don’t get much more hilarious than the idea that London’s mayoral ballot count can be trusted to be accurate any more than those of Zimbawe’s or Guatemala’s.
Anyway who is Lawrence Fox I’ve never heard of him.Luckily we aren’t part of the Greater London banana republic…yet.
Blimey, you swung all over the place with that comment didnt you Should have snuck a crafty CCP reference followed by an ‘expert’ assessment of the current employment market you’ve long not been a part of, no one would have noticed. You are sort of Trucknets Lawrence Fox. Lots of noise but no actual support.
switchlogic:
You are sort of Trucknets Lawrence Fox. Lots of noise but no actual support.
The RHA said nothing about the government stating an intention to take freight off the road and put it on ( electrified ) rail instead.
Now the government has realised that the electrification plan is unaffordable.
Burning diesel counts against the government’s ‘climate’ commitments.Which again the RHA said nothing about.
It makes sense to put the freight in question on foreign trucks which are exempt from those commitments.
Non EU states with ‘developing country status’ being more exempt than EU ones.
The climate control freaks are bringing the country to its knees.
What have I missed and is Lawrence Fox or anyone in the RHA actually saying that.
adam277:
Either way brexit has been nothing but a positive experience for me. maybe the next time I go to Tenerife I will moan about the extra hassle. But that’s a negative I can live with.
I keep seeing that alot of people who voted for brexit were lied to. Or were tricked, deceived, outsmarted or just stupid. Yet, for me it’s been fantastic.
This. I voted for remaining. Wasn’t an easy decision, I still hadn’t made my mind up even stood in the booth with a pencil in my hand but made the decision that we were better trying to resolve it from within. However being capable of critical thinking, in a job that suffered the effects of Eastern European labour and witnessing companies I’ve delivered to for over 20 years at the time of the Referendum going from being all local staff to being all Eastern European agency workers with the exception of management (Greencore Selby and Bakavoor Spalding to name two) I was under no illusion there weren’t problems. I didn’t buy the stuff the remain campaign was selling especially the “800,000 job losses, 10% house price falls and a recession so bad it’d need an emergency budget following a vote to leave” that Osborne was selling, I thought some of the leave campaign claims were less than honest too.
Both sides were lied to, tricked, deceived and outsmarted to some extent, many millennial Remainers so much that they’re still banging on about racist xenophobic stupid brexiters on social media today like its 2016. Brexiters weren’t stupid, they may have been less likely to have a degree but seeing what universities churn out now a degree has long since ceased to be a sign of intelligence. Stating there’s a problem in your area and it affects your day to day life and job is not racist to say. The trouble is for the millennials and zoomers who supported remaining, mainly those who live on social media, despite their claims of superior intellect and wokeness they’re actually narrow minded bigots incapable of understanding that. It’s quite funny that on Reddit they think I voted Brexit and I’m literally Nigel Farage because I don’t subscribe to their crap and correct them with facts.
So how has it affected me? For me like many in this job it’s ranged from noticing no difference in my daily life and only being aware there should be because the news, who are far from being trustworthy, tell me there should be to looking at the wages I get and the wages now being offered in those undesirable jobs that ended up with lots of EU migrants doing them. Living in a poor area the uplift in peoples quality of life is starting to be noticable. When I go on holiday I’ll still have to show my passport at the ferry, the Eurotunnel, the airport to go to France, Spain, wherever just the same as I have for the 20 odd years the EU existed and we were in it so there’s no change.
Likewise. I happily admit that I voted remain in the referendum; I have many friends in Europe in the world of motorcycling, before the pandemic I was a regular visitor and I was perfectly happy with the status quo. I don’t subscribe to the more extreme views about straight bananas and the like, I’ve always detested Farage and his bigoted blustering and at the time I perceived EU membership as more a force for good than ill.
However, I’m also old enough to remember what life was like before Britain joined the EU; or more to the point before the Channel Tunnel was opened because that was the defining moment when seamless movement between this island and the mainland became a reality. Coupled with the EU expansion to include Romania et al; that was when the EU became too big for its own good, and I now think Britain did the right thing.
Sidevalve:
Likewise. I happily admit that I voted remain in the referendum; I have many friends in Europe in the world of motorcycling, before the pandemic I was a regular visitor and I was perfectly happy with the status quo. I don’t subscribe to the more extreme views about straight bananas and the like, I’ve always detested Farage and his bigoted blustering and at the time I perceived EU membership as more a force for good than ill.
However, I’m also old enough to remember what life was like before Britain joined the EU; or more to the point before the Channel Tunnel was opened because that was the defining moment when seamless movement between this island and the mainland became a reality. Coupled with the EU expansion to include Romania et al; that was when the EU became too big for its own good, and I now think Britain did the right thing.
Bearing in mind that we went to war twice in Europe so that Europeans could could live in free seperate sovereign European states with the right to say no to whatever the ‘neighbouring’ state/s might want to do.
Not try to build a new Soviet Union/Fourth Reich in Europe.
adam277:
I’m surprised someone from Wales is not a little bit sympathetic to the reason a lot of people voted leave.
After all it was the poor/working class people that swung the brexit vote.
Heck your a HGV driver as well. You must of known about ‘certain’ firms exclusively recruiting people from Romania. In the industrial estate I worked out of I saw the minibus bringing drivers and warehouse workers in. I even asked about applying to a place once only to get told ‘sorry we only use a Romanian recruitment agency for driving jobs’.
I just dont get how anyone could see it was right that Driving and Warehouse jobs in Dagenham and the surrounding areas were only being advertised to people in Bucharest etc.
I also personally don’t buy the argument that people in the local area are not willing to do the job. Yea, they may be unwilling to unload containers for £7 p/hr. (Even though that was my first job for 3 years I did it). If you pay people enough money they will do it.
But businesses just had no incentive to up the rates beyond min wage when they could source cheap labor elsewhere.
Either way, when you get back to driving a truck again you can thank the voters for the much better rates you will likely receive.
Lawrence Fox
Reported this as spam. I didn’t mentioned anyone called Lawrence Fox. Obviously, mods don’t think this counts as spam though.
Turning into a habitat for you Switchlogic just doing one/two word replies or nonsense replies. trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewto … 8#p2781568
So the government says we intend to take as much freight off the roads and minimise road freight journeys as much as possible.
We have no intention of reducing the punitive road fuel tax burden on the industry as part of that aim.
What did Europa’s chief and Lawrence Fox say about that.
Consider this angle on the EE involvement prior to the lockdown:
Universal Credit, which everyone on mimimum wages gets - soon depletes to zero on the savage 63% taper IF you do overtime, premium shifts like weekends, and of course get a wage rise.
There was no pressure on firms to up wages AT ALL for YEARS prior to the lockdown.
It wasn’t “Brexit” - that caused all this then - it was the lockdown!!
(The Jury is still out over the “Lockdown” being a “result” of Brexit, or a “Symptom” of it)
My argument is that with a Brexit mandate to close our borders as of 2016 - we could easily have done that at the very start of the lockdown, but people were still allowed to holiday to and from “hotspots” like Spain, Italy, and India - which tells me that the “risk” isn’t anywhere near what it was all hyped up as…
Rules for Sheep
Rules for those who are NOT “Hard-of-Thinking”.
NOW - take a look at who’s back at work some time since, and who’s still NOT at this point…
We no longer need “Politics” to divide us - but instead one of these…
And the IKEA is miles away