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ramone:
I`ve just read two stories on the net regarding brexit , the first saying over 2 million people have signed a petition to have another vote on the EU , well how does that work ?I’ve seen it too Ramone apparently it’s a fake petition
It’s over 3 million now and it doesn’t look very fake to me.
These are also doing the rounds on Facebook
Carryfast:
Buzzer:
Poor old Nigel Farage getting a battering now its all over but when you look at it he was the one who drove this forward to last Thursdays vote for us to stay or leave the EU and I for one think he deserves some credit for that. On the other hand I don’t think he will ever be prime minister of this Britain and we desperately need some one of high calibre in that position to put the Great back in this country we have just won back from the European power corrupt system, makes you want to sing the national anthem once more, Buzzer.The fact that Farage can’t get into a position of leadership probably tells us all we need to know about the credibility of the vote actually ever being implemented.
Couldn’t have put that better meself.
I knew deep in me heart the tory leave (but not before we have another vote or two) campaign would get the official designation, didn’t matter then whether it was in or out the result was in ‘safe’ tory hands.
If we actually get out without another renegotiation and another bloody vote, Irish style, no bugger here will be more pleasantly surprised than me, i trust the Blairite phoney tories about as far as i could throw them.
Christ knows what Labours playing at now, they might as well all ■■■■ off home till the next election for all the official impetus they’re having in the country.
Actually, is anyone running the country.
I just pray the electorate hold firm and decline to elect more traitors/quislings come the next general election.
If ever we needed UKIP, the time is now.
plus 1 there juddian . politics mostly goes over my head , but the disgraceful , cowardly performance from cameron has me boiling . he was elected with the ruling party to govern this country and when he fails to get his own way he throws a paddy and refuses to carry out his duties . he should quit immediately and stop trying to block the will of the majority . it would be chaos in the short term , but he is set to stretch the chaos as far as he can .dave
I watched David Cameron say with great passion last week say ‘Britons are not quitters!’
Err. So, what nationality are you Dave?
Nobody should be allowed to vote for a new referendum who can HONESTLY say that if the positions were exactly reversed they would still vote for a new referendum.
Can Nicola Sturgeon say what she would be asking for if the Scottish vote had tipped the balance to remain?
We are only in some sort of limbo because nobody in government actually believed Brexit could win, so there are no contingency plans.
Mr Juncker hasn’t figured out yet that he isn’t still in charge of us and thinks he can still bully us. Perhaps if he and all the others hadn’t been so emphatically dismissive of CMD’s attempted reforms, the vote may have gone the other way.
My opinion only of course,
John.
John West:
I watched David Cameron say with great passion last week say ‘Britons are not quitters!’
Err. So, what nationality are you Dave?Nobody should be allowed to vote for a new referendum who can HONESTLY say that if the positions were exactly reversed they would still vote for a new referendum.
Can Nicola Sturgeon say what she would be asking for if the Scottish vote had tipped the balance to remain?
We are only in some sort of limbo because nobody in government actually believed Brexit could win, so there are no contingency plans.
Mr Juncker hasn’t figured out yet that he isn’t still in charge of us and thinks he can still bully us. Perhaps if he and all the others hadn’t been so emphatically dismissive of CMD’s attempted reforms, the vote may have gone the other way.
My opinion only of course,
John.
You seem to forget that junker is still in charge and will remain so until we send the email triggering the article thingy, if we ever do. Maybe they don’t intend to send no matter who’s in power, ever. i Think we should send it right now get the ball rolling and ask for nothing during the negotiations except get us out quick and then wait for the EU to ask to negotiate with us, on our terms, which wouldn’t be long.
We sure do need Nigel now, the only one with a pair big enough for this job
Juddian:
Carryfast:
Buzzer:
Poor old Nigel Farage getting a battering now its all over but when you look at it he was the one who drove this forward to last Thursdays vote for us to stay or leave the EU and I for one think he deserves some credit for that. On the other hand I don’t think he will ever be prime minister of this Britain and we desperately need some one of high calibre in that position to put the Great back in this country we have just won back from the European power corrupt system, makes you want to sing the national anthem once more, Buzzer.The fact that Farage can’t get into a position of leadership probably tells us all we need to know about the credibility of the vote actually ever being implemented.
Couldn’t have put that better meself.
I knew deep in me heart the tory leave (but not before we have another vote or two) campaign would get the official designation, didn’t matter then whether it was in or out the result was in ‘safe’ tory hands.
If we actually get out without another renegotiation and another bloody vote, Irish style, no bugger here will be more pleasantly surprised than me, i trust the Blairite phoney tories about as far as i could throw them.
Christ knows what Labours playing at now, they might as well all ■■■■ off home till the next election for all the official impetus they’re having in the country.
Actually, is anyone running the country.
I just pray the electorate hold firm and decline to elect more traitors/quislings come the next general election.
If ever we needed UKIP, the time is now.
I was prepared to give the Leave MP’s like BoJo and Gove the benefit of the doubt.
‘Until’ Friday morning arrived with a new bright dawn with all of them expressing their ‘loyalty’ to Cameron and the back tracking on the cheap labour issue and Cameron holding onto the reigns with the ‘promise’ of a delayed resignation and article 50 not being invoked by 9 am.While the quislings are still there in the form of Labour saying it is ‘listening’ to its electorate while saying at the same time it needs to shout louder at them to make them change their minds.The LibDems and remain voters having no intention of accepting the vote.With the still in place Europhile Cons saying that they aren’t prepared to accept any changes to the free movement issue in order to appease the empty threat of trade sanctions against us by the EU,more like the shortage of cheap labour.Quislings being an under statement.On that note if only I could share Bewick’s confidence that the vote will stick.
John West:
I watched David Cameron say with great passion last week say ‘Britons are not quitters!’
Err. So, what nationality are you Dave?Nobody should be allowed to vote for a new referendum who can HONESTLY say that if the positions were exactly reversed they would still vote for a new referendum.
Can Nicola Sturgeon say what she would be asking for if the Scottish vote had tipped the balance to remain?
We are only in some sort of limbo because nobody in government actually believed Brexit could win, so there are no contingency plans.
Mr Juncker hasn’t figured out yet that he isn’t still in charge of us and thinks he can still bully us. Perhaps if he and all the others hadn’t been so emphatically dismissive of CMD’s attempted reforms, the vote may have gone the other way.
My opinion only of course,
John.
How would any Europhile MP’s possibly be expected to have any credibility after the leave vote.Especially Cameron.In which case why not step down and hand over the reigns to David Davis at least in the interim.
But what written and signed amendments were even requested to be put on the table by Cameron,let alone made,regarding all the relevant treaties returning full powers of opt out substitution and VETO to our own National government.Bearing in mind that at that point the EU would have become a Confederation,as opposed to a Federation,and I’d have voted remain.The fact is Cameron’s big show of ‘re negotiations’ was just a deliberate sham just like Wilson’s was in 1975. 
I’ve got to say that yesterday was one of the most interesting and engrossing Sundays that I’ve enjoyed in a long time. (I know I do need to get out more). From the outset of all this I have forecast that a mainstream third political party will emerge from this political carnage. I discount the Lib Dems as a major party, especially after listening to Farron yesterday, whoever lets him out on his own, let alone allows to head a political party? The Nicola Sturgeon threat of Scotland overturning the vote is purely that, a threat. A constitutional lawyer they had on the news yesterday said that it could not be done. I think that we are in for a few more interesting days and weeks.
Interesting article by John Pilger, well worth a read.
Hello…France calling… Mayday, Mayday.
British migrant needs picking up from Bretagne in the early hours of the morning, please send Lysander or MTB…RDV to be arranged…failing that, any of Buzzers lorries in the area, they can always jump in the back…
The evictions have started, shots have been heard, concentration camps set up…please send help immediately, food urgent…and while you’re at it some money, well lots actually, suitcases full, cash, (in euro please none of that funny useless English stuff)…started digging a tunnel, but may take some time…I await coded messages via the BBC…
Why don’t we have another referendum to see if we should have another referendum ?
rastone:
Why don’t we have another referendum to see if we should have another referendum ?
What would that be on then, the EU or Scotland ? , think the best way forward here and it would be interesting to have a referendum with all EU members taking part to see if the whole EU think we should abandoned the current system and go there own ways, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
the best way forward here and it would be interesting to have a referendum with all EU members taking part to see if the whole EU think we should abandoned the current system and go there own ways, Buzzer.
That would be more or less play into the hands of the Europhiles in effectively being the same thing as saying the vote didn’t go the right way so let’s ignore it.The establishment has decided that it wants a Federal Europe run along Socialist Yugoslav type lines.While the ruling banker classes see a cheap labour angle to exploit for short term profit within that.In addition to which is that there are more beneficiaries and EU states that are net recipients than there are net contributors. IE there’s a big incentive among the voter group you’re referring to,to keep the scam going.The end result probably being where we were before the referendum and where we arguably still are.Lumbered with a Communist/Capitalist hybrid that is the perfect un democratically accountable exploitation machine for those at the top of the zb pile.
While even in the best case scenario of a vote for a Confederal Europe,as opposed to a Federal one,would probably be stamped on like a tonne of bricks by the US government because of the obvious implications of that domestically.
Juddian:
Interesting article by John Pilger, well worth a read.
Typical mixed up thinking of the Socialist mindset.IE his problem isn’t with the idea of the EU federation and dictatorial Federal government system.It’s that it isn’t Socialist enough.On that note notice the selective reference to the heroes of the Soviet Union winning WW2.While selectively ignoring the bit about its alliance with Hitler in invading Poland and only going to war with Germany when Germany predictably then turned against Stalin on the basis that Europe was too small for both a Soviet and German Union/Reich.
Buzzer:
rastone:
Why don’t we have another referendum to see if we should have another referendum ?What would that be on then, the EU or Scotland ? , think the best way forward here and it would be interesting to have a referendum with all EU members taking part to see if the whole EU think we should abandoned the current system and go there own ways, Buzzer.
Could we have a referendum on independence from Scotland , we could get Mr Trumps men to build us a wall a little bit further north than Hadrians attempt if we were successful 
Had no idea that this was her mother but with a name like kranky it seem’s to fit into place, they do look the same as well, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Had no idea that this was her mother but with a name like kranky it seem’s to fit into place, they do look the same as well, Buzzer.
STOP PRESS !! On our local Border Television news to-day Tink announced that he voted for Leave ! So come on lads he can’t be so bad if he has voted Leave ! He also demanded that the Government got a grip otherwise he would be forced to intervene and take over negotiations but there could be a problem with language difficulties viz-a-viz having an Eden Valley accent which no one outside ■■■■■■■ can comprehend ( I identify with this problem 
) So cut him a bit of slack lads at least he’s on our side ( for once! ) Don’t know about William he might be a “Remainer” Bewick.