Eu referendum whats your vote

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Saviem:
Evening all,

I wrote earlier on this thread to bemoan the fact that despite the credibility of the “out” movement, HM Government, let alone the prime movers for out, had no structure in place for “plan B”, a strategy to be implemented should an out vote be returned. What to do hour one…onward…

My concern is now vindicated, headless chickens would seem to have more directional ability than our Political classes in the present scenario.

Cameron`s fit of picque, in walking away simply compounds the issue. Where was his loyalty to the Nation? He lost, but his remit was to acknowledge the voice of the population, pick up the baton, and with all haste arrive at the doors of Europe and demand the deal for Great Britain . In business, attack is the best defence, not prevaricate, and feel hurt, “poor me”…[zb]!..This is Great Britain…and he was our, (on a minority), elected leader…absolute [zb]…like most if not all of the political class …self serving egotistical jelly beans…

Cameron should be shot…a blooming traitor to his country, snivelling, fearfull, plainly of a very delicate ego, simply a contemptable political animal…Is this really what we have come to deserve to lead us…Lions led by Donkeys!

So who will lead the UK, …whosoever the 1922 committee elects?..ye Gods, is that the best we can do, in a situation that is momentous for our country…and the time scale…I wonder if any of these pillocks listen or view German, French Italian television or Radio broadcasts…oh dear, if they did, then they would realise that already GB is loosing the initiative…time is of the essence…(but their political “advisors” will urge a “measured” approach)…simply because they cannot think on their feet…or simply fear accountability…We never elected these “advisors”…yet they, and they alone , decide “our” futures…

And of course to admit people with opposing political views, but a shared aim…well “we cannot do that”…and my goodness how we really need a coming together right now of like minded people…The populous have pushed the boat out from the shore…but the captain has cleared off, and the rest of the crew are busy fighting each other…

Why should we all tremble?

And to hear a Polish MEP, fat, corpulent, and obviously frightened, state, (interviewed on Channel 4 TV), …“do not expect Polish airmen to come to your rescue”…I could have cheerfully flattened that man…did we not sacrifice just so much on behalf of his countrymen…how could the journalist interviewing him keep his composure…easy…he is a media man…

We have right at our feet the most incredible opportunity…pray tell me…why are we simply counting our toes■■?

Cheerio for now.

^ This.

However it’s looking like the Leave Group MP’s were actually only there to make a pretence to keep the real sceptics in GO out.While there’s no way that Europhile Cameron had the credibility to take on the EU in what looks like they want anything but an amicable parting.As expected of a bunch of closet Communists.

Realistically we should already be in a Eurosceptic administration preferably led by David Davis in co alition with Kate Hoey and somehow input from minister without Portfolio Farage.With both Cameron and Corbyn already consigned to history by their own choice.With our EFTA membership application on the table and article 50 invoked for Monday morning.

Everything pointing to a sham in which a Leave vote was never intended or envisaged by either Europhiles Corbyn or Cameron or even arguably BoJo and Gove. :imp:

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The so-called “big hitters” of the Remain campaign are so out of touch,arrogant and conceited that they cannot grasp the fact that their opinions were rejected by over 1.25 million people in a democratic voting process, so they are now crying foul. They just could not believe that they could lose. What we need now, and urgently, is for some statesman (or woman) to step up to the plate urgently and to start the exit negotiations, as well as dealing with all the other constitutional issues that is part of this can of worms. I don’t think Boris is that man. My money is on Theresa May as a healing compromise solution.

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I put a tenner on Teresa may as soon as I heard Cameron speech.
Boris is too much of a marmite figure in the tory party to get the vote.

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kr79:
I put a tenner on Teresa may as soon as I heard Cameron speech.
Boris is too much of a marmite figure in the tory party to get the vote.

I for one do like a bit of Marmite, especially on toast, ha ha Buzzer.

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Where’s maggy thatcher when we need her

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rward:
Where’s maggy thatcher when we need her

Burning in hell where it belongs

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rward:
Where’s maggy thatcher when we need her

Roly you are right a lot did not like her but at least she did what it said on the tin, i’ll second that Buzzer.

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Well said Buzzer ! The result of the referendum has really given the “Political Elite” a kick in the 'Achers ! But what I would like the Remainers to answer is two questions

  1. What would they be saying to us Brexiteers now if the result had been in their favour

  2. Supposing for arguments sake we were not nor ever had been in the EU and the referendum was asking us if we would want to join
    or not, I wonder what sort of result there would have been bearing in mind the turmoil that is now engulfing this failed institution ?
    Surely the Political Elite would not be advocating that we should vote to join !

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gazsa401:

rward:
Where’s maggy thatcher when we need her

Burning in hell where it belongs

+1

No surprise she was another Europhile Con.

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Buzzer:

rward:
Where’s maggy thatcher when we need her

Roly you are right a lot did not like her but at least she did what it said on the tin, i’ll second that Buzzer.

Not exactly a bit like the Leave MP group.Committed Europhile Federalist on the inside but made a good pretence of putting up a fight against the EU when it suited her. :imp:

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Bewick:
Well said Buzzer ! The result of the referendum has really given the “Political Elite” a kick in the 'Achers ! But what I would like the Remainers to answer is two questions

  1. What would they be saying to us Brexiteers now if the result had been in their favour

  2. Supposing for arguments sake we were not nor ever had been in the EU and the referendum was asking us if we would want to join
    or not, I wonder what sort of result there would have been bearing in mind the turmoil that is now engulfing this failed institution ?
    Surely the Political Elite would not be advocating that we should vote to join !

Blimey Bewick you do know that there is already a committed attempt by Europhile MP’s to over turn the result and keep us in.Your own MP being at the forefront of that.Which is why Cameron didn’t walk away immediately and it’s also why none of the Eurosceptics in Labour or Conservatives have been immediately put into a positions of power and probably won’t be.I’m particularly referring to David Davis and Kate Hoey in that regard. :bulb:

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I`ve just read two stories on the net regarding brexit , the first saying over 2 million people have signed a petition to have another vote on the EU , well how does that work ? i think what they are really saying is if we dont get the result we want we will have another vote until we do , so then if we voted next time to remain would we have a revote because the brexit supporters didnt get the result they wanted , where would this end and didnt brexit get over a million majority ?
The second story involves Nicola Sturgeon who now thinks she can reverse the vote because Scotland voted out . Didnt Scotland have a referendum on independece and voted against it . They should make their minds up on where they want to be and leave if thats what they want :wink:

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ramone:
I`ve just read two stories on the net regarding brexit , the first saying over 2 million people have signed a petition to have another vote on the EU , well how does that work ? i think what they are really saying is if we dont get the result we want we will have another vote until we do , so then if we voted next time to remain would we have a revote because the brexit supporters didnt get the result they wanted , where would this end and didnt brexit get over a million majority ?
The second story involves Nicola Sturgeon who now thinks she can reverse the vote because Scotland voted out . Didnt Scotland have a referendum on independece and voted against it . They should make their minds up on where they want to be and leave if thats what they want :wink:

I’ve seen it too Ramone apparently it’s a fake petition

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gazsa401:

ramone:
I`ve just read two stories on the net regarding brexit , the first saying over 2 million people have signed a petition to have another vote on the EU , well how does that work ?

I’ve seen it too Ramone apparently it’s a fake petition

It’s over 3 million now and it doesn’t look very fake to me.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

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It’s a case of the Remain side being extremely sore losers and I doubt very much if the vote had gone the other way there would have been the same furore from the Brexiters, they being made up of the vast silent majority who would have accepted the decision of the People and just got on with it ! But the Political Elite were smug and thought they would have won hands down, how wrong they were and they have had one almighty shock but of course they still take the attitude that they are right and the Great British public don’t know what is best for them ! ■■■■ them I say, we are where we are and we are on our way out of the decaying rotten set up that is the EU ! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: Bewick.

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Carryfast:

Bewick:
Well said Buzzer ! The result of the referendum has really given the “Political Elite” a kick in the 'Achers ! But what I would like the Remainers to answer is two questions

  1. What would they be saying to us Brexiteers now if the result had been in their favour

  2. Supposing for arguments sake we were not nor ever had been in the EU and the referendum was asking us if we would want to join
    or not, I wonder what sort of result there would have been bearing in mind the turmoil that is now engulfing this failed institution ?
    Surely the Political Elite would not be advocating that we should vote to join !

Blimey Bewick you do know that there is already a committed attempt by Europhile MP’s to over turn the result and keep us in.Your own MP being at the forefront of that.Which is why Cameron didn’t walk away immediately and it’s also why none of the Eurosceptics in Labour or Conservatives have been immediately put into a positions of power and probably won’t be.I’m particularly referring to David Davis and Kate Hoey in that regard. :bulb:

I know what you are saying me Old Mucker but we have to keep our nerve, we’ve got to first base by getting the decision and I can’t see the result being overturned now plus the ■■■■■■■ in Brussels want shot of us PDQ to stop “the domino effect” taking hold. And as for that ■■■■■■ Farron I have already given the duplicitous ■■■■ a piece of my mind and can you honestly believe that the EU would welcome us back in in a couple of years or so after we had left ? I don’t think so as they see the UK as bloody irritant who should never have been allowed in in the first place ! Cheers Bewick.

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The only problem now is,who will sign article 50.?. Also if the government decides the out decision is not in the best interests of the country then the referendum result is dead in the water,why do you think nobody is coming forward from government,this country has after only 2 days of the vote lost £3 Trillion of value on the markets,thats a lot more than we paid into the eu in 10 years. Watch this Space. :laughing: :confused: :unamused: :wink: :question:

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Bewick:
I know what you are saying me Old Mucker but we have to keep our nerve, we’ve got to first base by getting the decision and I can’t see the result being overturned now plus the [zb] in Brussels want shot of us PDQ to stop “the domino effect” taking hold. And as for that [zb] Farron I have already given the duplicitous [zb] a piece of my mind and can you honestly believe that the EU would welcome us back in in a couple of years or so after we had left ? I don’t think so as they see the UK as bloody irritant who should never have been allowed in in the first place ! Cheers Bewick.

That’s fair enough Bewick the voice of reason as expected by my elders. :wink: :smiley:

Although I’ve still got my reservations as to whether the vote will be kicked into the long grass and ignored by the massive Europhile establishment agenda.While it’s never been about the EU wanting us.They just want our cash,our fish and our oil.Whether in the form of net contributions or flogging more Kraut cars etc here than we sell over there and sending us stuff we can make for ourselves in exchange for running our oil fields dry and fishing areas barren.In addition to imposing Communist Soviet type rule over us to keep the scam going and they ain’t going to change in that regard any time soon. :bulb:

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We are supposed to be a democratic country ! fair enough there will always be “jitters” when there is a seismic change to the status quo but in time the markets will recover and we can look forward to a far brighter future outside the smothering embrace of the now defunct EU, so IMHO it is a small price to pay in the short term to regain our Sovereignty and become totally free of outside, unwanted, interference from the unelected faceless ■■■■■ in Brussels. Cheers Bewick.

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gazsa401:

ramone:
I`ve just read two stories on the net regarding brexit , the first saying over 2 million people have signed a petition to have another vote on the EU , well how does that work ?

I’ve seen it too Ramone apparently it’s a fake petition

It’s over 3 million now and it doesn’t look very fake to me.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215