All most of us can do is put a crossing a little box and that’s our vote “away”.
We then “trust” those in power to carry out there instructions with us being there main concern.
I find it interesting to see how other interests could test there ability to do that.
The more words used in this forum, the more opportunity for some to manipulate and criticise so I just place it for all to make of it what you will.
I will also find it interesting what type of comments this attracts. Harvey
cav551:
ramone:
Buzzer:
Spardo:
It’s about MPs breaking the law and the courts deciding so. You obviously like to pick and choose what laws are to be obeyed. Only the ones that suit you apparently.Spardo you better do a bit of research in your spare time as I suspect 90% of MP’s in Whitehall have speeding offences against them, you on the other hand took my quote completely out of context as you invariably do, you should be an MP.
Ramone that allegation about Boris was completely false, allegedly he grabbed her and threw her on the floor and gave her a good seeing too in front of all her were in the room at the time but he was a lot younger then, I hate these half weight accusations it should not be allowed and the full truth should come out,
It always seems strange to me that these people who make allegations because they are so upset about being victims don’t report them at the time of the incident , or is it because Boris is now the PM . Utter crap
Apparently this woman is a journalist for the Sunday Times named Charlotte Edwardes, she is currently in a relationship with a certain Robert Peston, who is a member of guess which organisation with significant links to the EU? … Common Purpose.
Not much else needs to be said about the matter.
Edit add: wife’s comment, “Or revealed … motivated one”
She obviously enjoys rough ■■■ and scruffy men then 
HRS:
All most of us can do is put a crossing a little box and that’s our vote “away”.
We then “trust” those in power to carry out there instructions with us being there main concern.
I find it interesting to see how other interests could test there ability to do that.
The more words used in this forum, the more opportunity for some to manipulate and criticise so I just place it for all to make of it what you will.I will also find it interesting what type of comments this attracts. Harvey
Are you then suggesting that Swinson, or her husband, have any conflict of interest?
If so what? (Remembering forum rules about unsubstantiated allegations)
Posting a screen shot with no further comment, and no links, looks like a smear to me. Without any substantial allegation it can’t be refuted.
Allegations with names, dates etc. can be challenged. Vague “say no more” “nod to a blind horse” can’t.
Franglais:
(Remembering forum rules about unsubstantiated allegations)
You having a laugh, Franglais? This thread is immune. 
Buzzer:
Spardo you better do a bit of research in your spare time as I suspect 90% of MP’s in Whitehall have speeding offences against them, you on the other hand took my quote completely out of context as you invariably do, you should be an MP.
Well you certainly took mine that way, I was referring not to speeding fines but perverting the course of justice, both husband and wife in that instance.
But you knew that didn’t you? 
Spardo I think perverting the course of justice is what the remainer’s are trying to do with the leavers and they still use the word democratic which is temporarily out of use , that is until we leave the EU then we may be able to reinstate it into the English language, Buzzer.
Unless Boris has a “master stroke” up his sleeve which he is keeping to himself and his closest confidants for the 31/10/19 when we will leave the EU with no deal I’ll just keep my fingers crossed ! Because it is quite obvious that the Remainers/ Paddies & the EU will not accept any deal which is offered so "*uck 'em " I say No deal it is. The Southern Irish have most lose as they could be back with a similar situation to the Potato famine if they aren’t careful !! Why have they, The Irish , got to be so difficult when if they had continued to use the £ and stuck with the UK they would take no harm whatsoever ! same goes for the SNP over the Border ! they will be destitute shortly after gaining independence and who will get the blame when they are stood at the Border in rags begging for help ? yes you guessed it the “hated English” You could write it down what is looming up if our so called Political Elite don’t get a grip !! Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
Unless Boris has a “master stroke” up his sleeve which he is keeping to himself and his closest confidants for the 31/10/19 when we will leave the EU with no deal I’ll just keep my fingers crossed ! Because it is quite obvious that the Remainers/ Paddies & the EU will not accept any deal which is offered so "*uck 'em " I say No deal it is. The Southern Irish have most lose as they could be back with a similar situation to the Potato famine if they aren’t careful !! Why have they, The Irish , got to be so difficult when if they had continued to use the £ and stuck with the UK they would take no harm whatsoever ! same goes for the SNP over the Border ! they will be destitute shortly after gaining independence and who will get the blame when they are stood at the Border in rags begging for help ? yes you guessed it the “hated English” You could write it down what is looming up if our so called Political Elite don’t get a grip !! Cheers Bewick.
Meanwhile back in the real world.Boris is a remainer who’s carrying on with May’s agenda because she was too obvious.
The Withdrawal Act says absolutely nothing about any bs leave with no deal on 31/10.
The Irish issue is just another load of Remain bs because non EU freight lands in Ireland all the time and gets cleared inland just it does in other EU states.If that wasn’t the case the airports and docks would be unworkable.
Tory party faithful believing that their Party which took us into the EU now intends to take us out.They couldn’t make it up.
Buzzer:
Spardo I think perverting the course of justice is what the remainer’s are trying to do with the leavers and they still use the word democratic which is temporarily out of use , that is until we leave the EU then we may be able to reinstate it into the English language, Buzzer.
'Perverting the course of justice".
That is to with telling lies to get the result one wants by telling lies in a courtroom, isn’t it?
Despicable.
What then, is telling lies to get the result one wants, in a voting booth?
Isn’t that equally despicable?
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Some politicians have high ambitions and try for things they don’t achieve in office. They could make predictions about future outcomes That prove wrong. That could broken promises?.
I put lying about the past, and misrepresenting facts as a different class of lie.
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Does anyone give creadence to the £350m bllx anymore? To the EU bent banana laws? To vague smears about EU corruption, without backing them up?
Well yes, some do. I wonder why though?
Bewick:
Unless Boris has a “master stroke” up his sleeve which he is keeping to himself and his closest confidants for the 31/10/19 when we will leave the EU with no deal I’ll just keep my fingers crossed ! Because it is quite obvious that the Remainers/ Paddies & the EU will not accept any deal which is offered so "*uck 'em " I say No deal it is. The Southern Irish have most lose as they could be back with a similar situation to the Potato famine if they aren’t careful !! Why have they, The Irish , got to be so difficult when if they had continued to use the £ and stuck with the UK they would take no harm whatsoever ! same goes for the SNP over the Border ! they will be destitute shortly after gaining independence and who will get the blame when they are stood at the Border in rags begging for help ? yes you guessed it the “hated English” You could write it down what is looming up if our so called Political Elite don’t get a grip !! Cheers Bewick.
Don’t be so hard on the Scots and Irish.
They deserve our sympathy after all. They may now have the good sense to speak English, as God intended the whole world to, although they do so with a funny accents, but you must remember they lost life’s lottery: they weren’t born English. Don’t the poor so’n’sos deserve our pity?
Or do you think that after Brexit; when we rebuild the Empire by going out and colonizing a few backward countries, exploiting their resources and populations we should be tougher? Give the ungrateful buggers a bit of independence, and all they do is turn on us. Keep them subdued next time.
May the reic…sorry…Empire be Reigned ove…ummm…sorry.
Let’s have a nice democratic Empire next time, OK? Then we can defeat, rule over, and exploit the foreigners with a clear conscience.
Franglais:
Bewick:
Unless Boris has a “master stroke” up his sleeve which he is keeping to himself and his closest confidants for the 31/10/19 when we will leave the EU with no deal I’ll just keep my fingers crossed ! Because it is quite obvious that the Remainers/ Paddies & the EU will not accept any deal which is offered so "*uck 'em " I say No deal it is. The Southern Irish have most lose as they could be back with a similar situation to the Potato famine if they aren’t careful !! Why have they, The Irish , got to be so difficult when if they had continued to use the £ and stuck with the UK they would take no harm whatsoever ! same goes for the SNP over the Border ! they will be destitute shortly after gaining independence and who will get the blame when they are stood at the Border in rags begging for help ? yes you guessed it the “hated English” You could write it down what is looming up if our so called Political Elite don’t get a grip !! Cheers Bewick.Don’t be so hard on the Scots and Irish.
They deserve our sympathy after all. They may now have the good sense to speak English, as God intended the whole world to, although they do so with a funny accents, but you must remember they lost life’s lottery: they weren’t born English. Don’t the poor so’n’sos deserve our pity?
Or do you think that after Brexit; when we rebuild the Empire by going out and colonizing a few backward countries, exploiting their resources and populations we should be tougher? Give the ungrateful buggers a bit of independence, and all they do is turn on us. Keep them subdued next time.
May the reic…sorry…Empire be Reigned ove…ummm…sorry.
Let’s have a nice democratic Empire next time, OK? Then we can defeat, rule over, and exploit the foreigners with a clear conscience.
Couldn’t 'ave put it better me’sel Franglaise !!! Well done ! Bewick.
I see that the Wallis and Grommet “look alike” Rory Stewart has decided to throw the towel in and will not be standing for Parliament next time ! Well he couldn’t stand as a Conservative and if he stood as an Independent he would quite easily have lost his deposit ! It’s a pity our MP Farron doesn’t take the hint and ■■■■ off ! Cheers Bewick.
Now we are cooking on gas, all existing MP’s have been sacked and Whitehall has new occupiers and I think they may even deliver Brexit for us, as all they argue about is possibly who has the last banana, it definitely wont be Rory Stewart as he’s resigned, Buzzer.
Franglais:
HRS:
All most of us can do is put a crossing a little box and that’s our vote “away”.
We then “trust” those in power to carry out there instructions with us being there main concern.
I find it interesting to see how other interests could test there ability to do that.
The more words used in this forum, the more opportunity for some to manipulate and criticise so I just place it for all to make of it what you will.I will also find it interesting what type of comments this attracts. Harvey
Are you then suggesting that Swinson, or her husband, have any conflict of interest?
If so what? (Remembering forum rules about unsubstantiated allegations)
Posting a screen shot with no further comment, and no links, looks like a smear to me. Without any substantial allegation it can’t be refuted.
Allegations with names, dates etc. can be challenged. Vague “say no more” “nod to a blind horse” can’t.
I don’t do it to engage in manipulative conversations.
It is placed so all can see and make of it what you will.
If you something I dont, is that a smear ■■?
Breaking News ! That ■■■■ Rory Stewart has just announced he is going to stand for London Mayor next year ! The ■■■■ has more front than Blackpool ! Bewick.
HRS:
Franglais:
HRS:
All most of us can do is put a crossing a little box and that’s our vote “away”.
We then “trust” those in power to carry out there instructions with us being there main concern.
I find it interesting to see how other interests could test there ability to do that.
The more words used in this forum, the more opportunity for some to manipulate and criticise so I just place it for all to make of it what you will.I will also find it interesting what type of comments this attracts. Harvey
Are you then suggesting that Swinson, or her husband, have any conflict of interest?
If so what? (Remembering forum rules about unsubstantiated allegations)
Posting a screen shot with no further comment, and no links, looks like a smear to me. Without any substantial allegation it can’t be refuted.
Allegations with names, dates etc. can be challenged. Vague “say no more” “nod to a blind horse” can’t.I don’t do it to engage in manipulative conversations.
It is placed so all can see and make of it what you will.
If you something I dont, is that a smear ■■?
So you really expect us to believe you just put up stuff, that you see no interest or point to? The screen shots you choose to share mean nothing to you? Are without any significance to you?
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I hold a personal opinion about the credibility of that position.
But I won’t tell anyone what it is…
I’ll just let them make of it what they will.
Bewick:
Franglais:
Bewick:
Unless Boris has a “master stroke” up his sleeve which he is keeping to himself and his closest confidants for the 31/10/19 when we will leave the EU with no deal I’ll just keep my fingers crossed ! Because it is quite obvious that the Remainers/ Paddies & the EU will not accept any deal which is offered so "*uck 'em " I say No deal it is. The Southern Irish have most lose as they could be back with a similar situation to the Potato famine if they aren’t careful !! Why have they, The Irish , got to be so difficult when if they had continued to use the £ and stuck with the UK they would take no harm whatsoever ! same goes for the SNP over the Border ! they will be destitute shortly after gaining independence and who will get the blame when they are stood at the Border in rags begging for help ? yes you guessed it the “hated English” You could write it down what is looming up if our so called Political Elite don’t get a grip !! Cheers Bewick.Don’t be so hard on the Scots and Irish.
They deserve our sympathy after all. They may now have the good sense to speak English, as God intended the whole world to, although they do so with a funny accents, but you must remember they lost life’s lottery: they weren’t born English. Don’t the poor so’n’sos deserve our pity?
Or do you think that after Brexit; when we rebuild the Empire by going out and colonizing a few backward countries, exploiting their resources and populations we should be tougher? Give the ungrateful buggers a bit of independence, and all they do is turn on us. Keep them subdued next time.
May the reic…sorry…Empire be Reigned ove…ummm…sorry.
Let’s have a nice democratic Empire next time, OK? Then we can defeat, rule over, and exploit the foreigners with a clear conscience.Couldn’t 'ave put it better me’sel Franglaise !!! [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] Well done ! Bewick.
I’m glad to have been of any assistance to you. [emoji5]
I get the impression that you are of a shy, retiring, nature, and might be reticent to voice your opinions?
As Buzzer will tell you, us Southerners are always hapoyto help those from the frozen wastelands north of Winchester.
Franglais:
Buzzer:
Spardo I think perverting the course of justice is what the remainer’s are trying to do with the leavers and they still use the word democratic which is temporarily out of use , that is until we leave the EU then we may be able to reinstate it into the English language, Buzzer.'Perverting the course of justice".
That is to with telling lies to get the result one wants by telling lies in a courtroom, isn’t it?
Despicable.
What then, is telling lies to get the result one wants, in a voting booth?
Isn’t that equally despicable?
.
Some politicians have high ambitions and try for things they don’t achieve in office. They could make predictions about future outcomes That prove wrong. That could broken promises?.
I put lying about the past, and misrepresenting facts as a different class of lie.
.
Does anyone give creadence to the £350m bllx anymore? To the EU bent banana laws? To vague smears about EU corruption, without backing them up?
Well yes, some do. I wonder why though?
These lies from the past aren’t despicable then? Which is of course the reason why we are where we are now.
cav551:
These lies from the past aren’t despicable then? Which is of course the reason why we are where we are now.
Even if we did lie to defend the sovereignty of the country from a bunch of traitors in parliament handing it over to a foreign power those are justified lies.Just as Chamberlain and the DDay subterfuge fooling Hitler was justified.
But no to an EU Federalist they’d obviously view any lies used in their Federal State’s interests just the same.Everyone seems to be way under estimating this division.To the point where people with Franglias’ etc views have historically happily taken up arms against people with ours and vice versa.
Surely, the way I read it - Boris is now forced by law to ask for an extension (unless there is a deal finally agreed) - if he doesn’t ask, then somebody else will do so on his behalf ?
Then it is up to EU to decide whether to give an extension and the big gamble could be that just ONE of the 28 EU member Countries veto any extension and you are out on 31st October ?
OzzyHugh:
Surely, the way I read it - Boris is now forced by law to ask for an extension (unless there is a deal finally agreed) - if he doesn’t ask, then somebody else will do so on his behalf ?Then it is up to EU to decide whether to give an extension and the big gamble could be that just ONE of the 28 EU member Countries veto any extension and you are out on 31st October ?
OH nice to here from someone the other side of the world, you lot over there must think what a laughing stock we have become here in Blighty, not just over there but around the world. If Boris had been PM at the beginning of this process and not May I really think we would be out long ago, I voted to exit the EU as did 17,4 million others and our vote is being over run by those in government who wish to remain.
This is wholly unjust and against democracy, some MP’s who have tried to overrun Brexit have constituency’s that actually voted to leave and they are going against the wish of the voters who put them in office so imagine how betrayed they feel right now, just hope that when we get a general election they get there comeuppance and they get deselected.
On the whole what ever Boris puts forward it gets voted down and if it gets serious they go to court and get a law passed to force him against his will, no wonder he is keeping his powder dry right now and don’t blame him for that. Courts should have no right to get involved in what goes on in parliament especially on a subject like Brexit, it should be decided in Whitehall.
Don’t know if Boris has something up his sleeve for the 31st of October but I really hope he has, this process is now getting boring and most of the population want it sorted what ever way they voted IN or OUT we have had enough and need to move on now, Buzzer.
