whisperingsmith: > Buzzer: > Call me a prick if you like , it wouldn’t be the first time , but for me, the time has come to split the union with Scotland and Northern Ireland , ( Wales as well , if that’s what they want ) and let’s go our own way eh ? What do you reckon to those apples CF ? Eddie plus 1 with that and don’t give them any money either. WS i am now over 70 and i would not side with any one that had different beliefs than me especially on something as crucial as Brexit, Buzzer [/quote]
I will go along with you on that Buzzer as long as Cornwall is included with the Celtic Nations
I have no problem with the Anglo Saxons choosing their path as long as they don’t take the rest of us with them.
Then we can all be friends again!! - the way we were and stand together when needed
WS get that out of your head as this country will never be the same again ever, long memories of this will prevail forever. Buzzer.
whisperingsmith: > Buzzer: > Call me a prick if you like , it wouldn’t be the first time , but for me, the time has come to split the union with Scotland and Northern Ireland , ( Wales as well , if that’s what they want ) and let’s go our own way eh ? What do you reckon to those apples CF ? Eddie plus 1 with that and don’t give them any money either. WS i am now over 70 and i would not side with any one that had different beliefs than me especially on something as crucial as Brexit, Buzzer [/quote]
I will go along with you on that Buzzer as long as Cornwall is included with the Celtic Nations
I have no problem with the Anglo Saxons choosing their path as long as they don’t take the rest of us with them.
Then we can all be friends again!! - the way we were and stand together when needed
Eddie Heaton:
Call me a prick if you like , it wouldn’t be the first time , but for me, the time has come to split the union with Scotland and Northern Ireland , ( Wales as well , if that’s what they want ) and let’s go our own way eh ? What do you reckon to those apples CF ?
As I’ve said elsewhere I’m a Nationalist having a Great Uncle who gave his life at the age of 16 to a Black and Tan bullet for his support of Michael Collins and unluckily having ended up with his home on the wrong side of the new border he helped to create by less than a mile.He was also the last breadwinner of the family with a terminally ill mother who could no longer look after them without him including my young Nan at the time.Meaning that they were all scattered mostly in America and her brought here alone by a distant aunt by all accounts.Now you know why I zb detest evil Federalist scum and Federalism.Ironically England being as much a victim in all that as Scotland and Ireland.You can blame invading French zb’s like Edward 1 and his predecessors for all that.
As for Ireland a country born out of secession at the cost of those like my Great Uncle and his family now wanting to hand itself over to German Federal rule.They couldn’t make it up.
whisperingsmith:
I will go along with you on that Buzzer as long as Cornwall is included with the Celtic Nations
I have no problem with the Anglo Saxons choosing their path as long as they don’t take the rest of us with them.
Then we can all be friends again!! - the way we were and stand together when needed
If I’ve read it right you’d rather throw your lot in with being ruled by the real Krauts in mainland Europe.Who the English obviously couldn’t live with so rowed their way across the Channel to get away from the zb’s.While the Celts were actually taken out by the French Plantagenet invaders who followed on from the ‘Conqueror’.You’ve got a strange idea of history in thinking that the English are your enemy and the Euros your friends.
whisperingsmith:
I will go along with you on that Buzzer as long as Cornwall is included with the Celtic Nations
I have no problem with the Anglo Saxons choosing their path as long as they don’t take the rest of us with them.
Then we can all be friends again!! - the way we were and stand together when needed
Well , at this point , I f****ing give up.
His logic seems to be he’d rather Cornwall ( and Ireland and Scotland ) was ruled by the Germans for the Germans because he thinks the English are Krauts including Edward 1.
whisperingsmith:
Any of us posters here under the age of 70 ■■
I guess Ramone is younger - maybe even with a certificate of Service rather than than a certificate of competence from serving his time (old school)
Regardless of all of this, if any of us were broke down beside the road we would stop and help each other!!
So surely whichever way we feel about the current ClusterF**k, we should still stand together for our kids & grandkids
Assumptions again , i’m not even close to an old hand at 53 with 35 years in but i do know a miserable old left winger when i see one. You know the ones who live well out of the way and thrive on calling others racists but they don’t want it on their doorsteps ,does that sound familiar . And funnily enough i do have a certificate of competence but nowhere near the experience you have
We truly are the laughing stock of the world, proroguing is the subject and England says its legal Scotland says it is not and Northern Ireland and Wales have asked if they can phone a friend probably someone high up in the EU machine, if this was not happening you would call it a joke but sadly it is.
Tom Watson wants another referendum before an election but Corbin wants it the other way round the trouble being that they take no heed of the result if it does not meet with what they want and that goes for all the so called MP’s who have highjacked parliament, they have got a law passed so why not just let Boris get on with the business of trying to settle this mess out, at the end of the day when we do have a general election those who wanted to leave and voted that way in 2016 don’t give up and say what is the point in voting. We must have resolve and make it count big time when the time comes and then maybe just maybe we will get our prize and be out of this stinking corrupt EU and I just hope that I am still around to see it and might even have a tipple to celebrate when we do, Buzzer.
There was avery brief soundbite from Bob Stewart en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Stewart_(politician on the 6pm BBC News tonight. Jerking his thumb at the Palace of Westminster and rolling his eyes he said that the public voted to leave the EU but this lot have decided they are not having it.
Had a look and IMHO I think they would get ■■■■■■ off with all that holdup before we would and we can make life just as awkward for them, at this point I would like to point out that UK trucks now probably only do about 10% of international traffic and maybe this would get rid of some of the flip flops driving foreign trucks on crap wages and often double manned with false papers declaring they earn the proper rate for the job.
We have been doing International transport for nearly 50 years but it is becoming less attractive month by month and at present we can and do earn more working in the UK giving a professional service with out all the hassles, as a company that I started now run by two sons they are of that opinion too now and its just not them either as the drivers some that who have done the job for many years are feeling the same way.
Only last month we loaded I pallet in Paris and had to load a further 13 in Evreaux the following morning but when we opened the still fully securely locked fridge doors there were three immigrants inside the trailer who were taken away by French police and then it was discovered they had gained entry by cutting a hole in the roof of the fridge, needless to say it was lose, lose for us as we had to return to the UK empty and face a bill for repair of over K4 sad to say that today the job is not like the good old days of the 80’s and 90’s.
To sum up I don’t think international transport will ever have the appeal it once had with young drivers itching to have a go on the big open spaces of the continent plus the fact that it is difficult to get good drivers in todays world and of course keep them, all in all I think in the end the foreigners will see it in the same light as we are and the only thing making it appealing will be a rapid rise in rates for doing the job instead of cutting each others throats just to get the work and in final realisation the whole point was to make a profit, Buzzer.
I’ve made of it what i have, and in the short term it’s not looking good.
That’s not to say it’s going to be a disaster in the long term (might be, might not), but why are we gambling like this? What was so wrong about seamless cross-border trade?
Oh whatever, at the end of next month we’ll have ‘taken back control’.
And a fine example the UK is sending out to the rest of the world about what ‘being in control’ means.
Buzzer:
We truly are the laughing stock of the world, proroguing is the subject and England says its legal Scotland says it is not and Northern Ireland and Wales have asked if they can phone a friend probably someone high up in the EU machine, if this was not happening you would call it a joke but sadly it is.
Tom Watson wants another referendum before an election but Corbin wants it the other way round the trouble being that they take no heed of the result if it does not meet with what they want and that goes for all the so called MP’s who have highjacked parliament, they have got a law passed so why not just let Boris get on with the business of trying to settle this mess out, at the end of the day when we do have a general election those who wanted to leave and voted that way in 2016 don’t give up and say what is the point in voting. We must have resolve and make it count big time when the time comes and then maybe just maybe we will get our prize and be out of this stinking corrupt EU and I just hope that I am still around to see it and might even have a tipple to celebrate when we do, Buzzer.
You’ve got that arse about face I think.
The MPs are Parliament, they haven’t “hi-jacked it”. If anyone is attempting to thwart Parliament it is Johnson and his minority Government.
I know you don’t agree with what Parliament wants, but Johnson is trying to bypass it.
MPs in parliment are voting for the good of their selves not the good of the country but if and when there’s a general election lets hope the MPs who want to remain promote that .Like i’ve said before Labour = Remain
Lib Dems = Remain
Tories = Leave.
Then throw Farage into the equation.
Just a thought if there’s a 4 million majority will we have to go through all this again because its not enough , some aren’t old enough to vote yet , some haven’t been born yet and the ones who didn’t vote might not like the result either
Buzzer:
We truly are the laughing stock of the world, proroguing is the subject and England says its legal Scotland says it is not and Northern Ireland and Wales have asked if they can phone a friend probably someone high up in the EU machine, if this was not happening you would call it a joke but sadly it is.
Tom Watson wants another referendum before an election but Corbin wants it the other way round the trouble being that they take no heed of the result if it does not meet with what they want and that goes for all the so called MP’s who have highjacked parliament, they have got a law passed so why not just let Boris get on with the business of trying to settle this mess out, at the end of the day when we do have a general election those who wanted to leave and voted that way in 2016 don’t give up and say what is the point in voting. We must have resolve and make it count big time when the time comes and then maybe just maybe we will get our prize and be out of this stinking corrupt EU and I just hope that I am still around to see it and might even have a tipple to celebrate when we do, Buzzer.
You’ve got that arse about face I think. The MPs are Parliament, they haven’t “hi-jacked it”. If anyone is attempting to thwart Parliament it is Johnson and his minority Government.
I know you don’t agree with what Parliament wants, but Johnson is trying to bypass it.
Wrong. Look at the map which showed the constituencies which voted leave and those which voted remain. It is the MPs in Parliament and the rest of the Establishment who have decided that they know better than their electors and PAYMASTERS. They think their ■■■■ doesn’t stink so they will simply not allow leave to happen. They made up their minds to do this within seconds of the Referendum result becoming clear. The first manifestation of their intentions was the failure to trigger Article 50 immediately, this quickly followed by the Government Party electing a Remain leader to conduct negotiations with the EU after their previous leader had thrown a hissy-fit because he lost.
One can hardly be surprised by this attitude to favour the minority vote, since with the exception of only two General Elections since 1918 it has been the party which has received the minority of votes cast which has formed the Government. The Establishment is historically conditioned to ignore the wishes of the majority of its people. It is all very well to argue that ‘this’ is the Electoral System we operate, but it explains the mindset of those who have been elected. It also explains everything which has happened since June 2016.
Wikipedia The Establishment: " it may include politicians, civil servants, legal representatives, academics, clergy in the Church of England, financiers, industrialists, governors e.g. Bank of England, BBC etc."
Buzzer:
We truly are the laughing stock of the world, proroguing is the subject and England says its legal Scotland says it is not and Northern Ireland and Wales have asked if they can phone a friend probably someone high up in the EU machine, if this was not happening you would call it a joke but sadly it is.
Tom Watson wants another referendum before an election but Corbin wants it the other way round the trouble being that they take no heed of the result if it does not meet with what they want and that goes for all the so called MP’s who have highjacked parliament, they have got a law passed so why not just let Boris get on with the business of trying to settle this mess out, at the end of the day when we do have a general election those who wanted to leave and voted that way in 2016 don’t give up and say what is the point in voting. We must have resolve and make it count big time when the time comes and then maybe just maybe we will get our prize and be out of this stinking corrupt EU and I just hope that I am still around to see it and might even have a tipple to celebrate when we do, Buzzer.
You’ve got that arse about face I think.
The MPs are Parliament, they haven’t “hi-jacked it”. If anyone is attempting to thwart Parliament it is Johnson and his minority Government.
I know you don’t agree with what Parliament wants, but Johnson is trying to bypass it.
Sorry Franglais but I think it is those who want to stay in the EU the remainers that are hell bent on thwarting the democratic vote to leave in the referendum of 2016 by what ever means they can, I say democratic but this is a word used by the remain camp as and when it suits there purpose and apparently has no real meaning at all.
Like you imply the MP’s are parliament but in many cases they are going against the will of the electorate in there particular ward who put them there in the first place, we will only see if retaliation takes place when we have a general election weather they get there just deserts and the electorate turn against them.
I would like to think that Boris would do a deal with Nigel if only to get us out of the EU and could not give a flying turd what happens thereafter. Government is for those who are not capable of a good days graft like so many men and woman in this country and are there purely for there own financial gain and an easy ride with all the attached benefits, half of these high jackers of the Government I have never heard of, they never speak in parliament and are just part of the great big gravy train just the same as in the EU, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
We truly are the laughing stock of the world, proroguing is the subject and England says its legal Scotland says it is not and Northern Ireland and Wales have asked if they can phone a friend probably someone high up in the EU machine, if this was not happening you would call it a joke but sadly it is.
Tom Watson wants another referendum before an election but Corbin wants it the other way round the trouble being that they take no heed of the result if it does not meet with what they want and that goes for all the so called MP’s who have highjacked parliament, they have got a law passed so why not just let Boris get on with the business of trying to settle this mess out, at the end of the day when we do have a general election those who wanted to leave and voted that way in 2016 don’t give up and say what is the point in voting. We must have resolve and make it count big time when the time comes and then maybe just maybe we will get our prize and be out of this stinking corrupt EU and I just hope that I am still around to see it and might even have a tipple to celebrate when we do, Buzzer.
You’ve got that arse about face I think. The MPs are Parliament, they haven’t “hi-jacked it”. If anyone is attempting to thwart Parliament it is Johnson and his minority Government.
I know you don’t agree with what Parliament wants, but Johnson is trying to bypass it.
Wrong. Look at the map which showed the constituencies which voted leave and those which voted remain. It is the MPs in Parliament and the rest of the Establishment who have decided that they know better than their electors and PAYMASTERS. They think their [zb] doesn’t stink so they will simply not allow leave to happen. They made up their minds to do this within seconds of the Referendum result becoming clear. The first manifestation of their intentions was the failure to trigger Article 50 immediately, this quickly followed by the Government Party electing a Remain leader to conduct negotiations with the EU after their previous leader had thrown a hissy-fit because he lost.
One can hardly be surprised by this attitude to favour the minority vote, since with the exception of only two General Elections since 1918 it has been the party which has received the minority of votes cast which has formed the Government. The Establishment is historically conditioned to ignore the wishes of the majority of its people. It is all very well to argue that ‘this’ is the Electoral System we operate, but it explains the mindset of those who have been elected. It also explains everything which has happened since June 2016.
Wikipedia The Establishment: " it may include politicians, civil servants, legal representatives, academics, clergy in the Church of England, financiers, industrialists, governors e.g. Bank of England, BBC etc."
As you (almost) say, we have a representative form of government, not one based on referendums.
Many constituencies voted for both Brexit, and an anti-Brexit MP, that’s why we’re here.
and don’t give them any money either. WS i am now over 70 and i would not side with any one that had different beliefs than me especially on something as crucial as Brexit, Buzzer
Assumptions again , i’m not even close to an old hand at 53 with 35 years in but i do know a miserable old left winger when i see one. You know the ones who live well out of the way and thrive on calling others racists but they don’t want it on their doorsteps ,does that sound familiar . And funnily enough i do have a certificate of competence but nowhere near the experience you have
