Over 17 million voted leave under 400 said no we remain , make no mistake we wont leave with a deal because the MPs of this country have stopped it . It’s very fashionable to bash Boris whether you are a Sky pundit , BBC interviewer paid by the very people you are betraying or one of the MPs who voted against no deal . Liberals = Remain Labour = Whatever Corbyn the Eurosceptic backbencher feels like if he gets in Tory = Leave now he has cleaned up the party
I watched Question Time last night. Jesus wept. Thornbury who admitted that if her Labour Government negotiated a new deal with the EU she’s vote against it because she wants to remain. Did the stupid cow hear what she said? apparently so because she then tried to defend herself. That yellow woman from the Liberal Irrelevants, squirming when asked about her party leader’s admission that if a second referendum voted to leave again then she would ignore the result. That scotch prat who just would not shut up. I admire Fiona Bruce for restraining from hitting him or at least telling him to leave.
And these are the lot who are trying to take over. No wonder people are disillusioned with voting if this is the standard of representative we get, all of them quite frankly create an argument for euthanasia.
cav551:
I watched Question Time last night. Jesus wept. Thornbury who admitted that if her Labour Government negotiated a new deal with the EU she’s vote against it because she wants to remain. Did the stupid cow hear what she said? apparently so because she then tried to defend herself. That yellow woman from the Liberal Irrelevants, squirming when asked about her party leader’s admission that if a second referendum voted to leave again then she would ignore the result. That scotch prat who just would not shut up. I admire Fiona Bruce for restraining from hitting him or at least telling him to leave.And these are the lot who are trying to take over. No wonder people are disillusioned with voting if this is the standard of representative we get, all of them quite frankly create an argument for euthanasia.
It’s like none of them are listening to what we voted for . As for the BBC , they should become self funding like ITV or we should be able to remove the BBC from TVs and pay if we want it , Nicky Campbell and the woman he works with on 5 Live are an utter joke asking arrogantly loaded questions to brexit MPs and pussyfooting around remainers
As an Aussie now ( after 65 years in UK and paying wages and taxes) I ask - how can this shambles happen and so many MP’s be against Brexit - just look at this map issued by UK Government. You need Guy Fawkes or someone similar now !
ramone:
Liberals = Remain Labour = Whatever Corbyn the Eurosceptic backbencher feels like if he gets in Tory = Leave now he has cleaned up the party
Blimey ramone that’s a typical case of 2 + 2 = 5.Let’s get this right Tony Benn = Labour,Peter Shore = Labour,Eric Heffer = Labour,Kate Hoey = Labour.Heath = Con,Thatcher you know the same Thatcher who campaigned for yes in 1975 = Con,Major = Con,Cameron campaigned for Remain at our expense using a publically funded propaganda campaign to do it.May = Remain.BoJo is on record as being sympathetic to EU membership and he never stood with Davis or Hoey within the Grass Roots Out campaign before the referendum for some reason.He also chose not to remove the government’s defence against the Tilbrook case.He also put on an act of supposedly proroguing parliament while still leaving the door wide open for the remainers to derail the whole process.With the help of the Queen you know the same Queen who signed Royal Assent to the European Communities Act and don’t give me the excuse that she had to because Heath made her do it.Blame whoever you like for all this but don’t blame the Labour Party for it.
ramone:
It’s like none of them are listening to what we voted for . As for the BBC , they should become self funding like ITV or we should be able to remove the BBC from TVs and pay if we want it , Nicky Campbell and the woman he works with on 5 Live are an utter joke asking arrogantly loaded questions to brexit MPs and pussyfooting around remainers
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you’ve agreed with the premise that it’s ok for anyone to vote a sovereign recognised nation state out of existence and into EU vassalage.
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Then you’re surprised when the Federalists take that as carte blanche to go one step further by predictably rigging and if that doesn’t work subverting the process if it goes against them.
The fact is this was all about getting the naive mugs to accept 1) the rest is and will be history.
Carryfast:
ramone:
Liberals = Remain Labour = Whatever Corbyn the Eurosceptic backbencher feels like if he gets in Tory = Leave now he has cleaned up the partyBlimey ramone that’s a typical case of 2 + 2 = 5.Let’s get this right Tony Benn = Labour,Peter Shore = Labour,Eric Heffer = Labour,Kate Hoey = Labour.Heath = Con,Thatcher you know the same Thatcher who campaigned for yes in 1975 = Con,Major = Con,Cameron campaigned for Remain at our expense using a publically funded propaganda campaign to do it.May = Remain.BoJo is on record as being sympathetic to EU membership and he never stood with Davis or Hoey within the Grass Roots Out campaign before the referendum for some reason.He also chose not to remove the government’s defence against the Tilbrook case.He also put on an act of supposedly proroguing parliament while still leaving the door wide open for the remainers to derail the whole process.With the help of the Queen you know the same Queen who signed Royal Assent to the European Communities Act and don’t give me the excuse that she had to because Heath made her do it.Blame whoever you like for all this but don’t blame the Labour Party for it.
WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.
> ramone:
> WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.
That’s why the only way to settle it is a Peoples Vote On It 
whisperingsmith:
> ramone:
> WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.
[/quote]That’s why the only way to settle it is a Peoples Vote On It
Are you missing the point here as I seem to remember in the distant past we had a vote where the nation was given a choice and 17.4 million of us decided we wanted to leave but now the majority of the 650 J.Arthurs under the pretence of MP’s in Whitehall are overriding that democratic vote that was carried out and are stopping Brexit occurring, we may as well have a dictator and save on all there wages as they are only in it for there own gains and take no notice of the electorate what so ever.
On another note Corbin & the Scots have been calling for a general election for over two years now but they don’t want one until it suits them, well I just hope that when it does happen they get there comeuppance as for sure we could not stand Corbin and remaining in the EU together as it will destroy this country beyond retrieval, I am a senior citizen so would not have to put up with it for too long but all these youngsters who think they know what they want have no idea what’s going to hit them if that scenario pans out.
Buzzer:
whisperingsmith:
> ramone:
> WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.
[/quote]That’s why the only way to settle it is a Peoples Vote On It
[/quoteAre you missing the point here as I seem to remember in the distant past we had a vote where the nation was given a choice and 17.4 million of us decided we wanted to leave but now the majority of the 650 J.Arthurs under the pretence of MP’s in Whitehall are overriding that democratic vote that was carried out and are stopping Brexit occurring, we may as well have a dictator and save on all there wages as they are only in it for there own gains and take no notice of the electorate what so ever.
On another note Corbin & the Scots have been calling for a general election for over two years now but they don’t want one until it suits them, well I just hope that when it does happen they get there comeuppance as for sure we could not stand Corbin and remaining in the EU together as it will destroy this country beyond retrieval, I am a senior citizen so would not have to put up with it for too long but all these youngsters who think they know what they want have no idea what’s going to hit them if that scenario pans out.It seems like a thick fog descended on us and the referendim was a figment of our imagination , there’s alot of strong feeling out there
ramone:
Carryfast:
ramone:
Liberals = Remain Labour = Whatever Corbyn the Eurosceptic backbencher feels like if he gets in Tory = Leave now he has cleaned up the partyBlimey ramone that’s a typical case of 2 + 2 = 5.Let’s get this right Tony Benn = Labour,Peter Shore = Labour,Eric Heffer = Labour,Kate Hoey = Labour.Heath = Con,Thatcher you know the same Thatcher who campaigned for yes in 1975 = Con,Major = Con,Cameron campaigned for Remain at our expense using a publically funded propaganda campaign to do it.May = Remain.BoJo is on record as being sympathetic to EU membership and he never stood with Davis or Hoey within the Grass Roots Out campaign before the referendum for some reason.He also chose not to remove the government’s defence against the Tilbrook case.He also put on an act of supposedly proroguing parliament while still leaving the door wide open for the remainers to derail the whole process.With the help of the Queen you know the same Queen who signed Royal Assent to the European Communities Act and don’t give me the excuse that she had to because Heath made her do it.Blame whoever you like for all this but don’t blame the Labour Party for it.
WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.
The Tories want out.You mean having lost what majority they might have had with the latest defection to the LibDems and BoJo on record as being sympathetic to EU membership,Having voted for May’s BRINO deal and refusing to drop the defence to the Tilbrook case and leaving enough holes in the ‘prorogation’ of parliament for the remainers to drive a coach and horses followed by the EU army through.While also conveniently air brushing any other inconvenient evidence in that regard from history including what happened between the referendum result and now.
whisperingsmith:
> ramone:
> WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.That’s why the only way to settle it is a Peoples Vote On It
No the only way to settle treason,including a parliament gone rogue,is by arrest of the criminals who are proposing and supporting it.
While even if a ‘vote’ was the ‘way’ to settle it we had one and the EU Federalists lost because they couldn’t rig it in their favour sufficiently.Unlike the previous one which they won by hiding FCO 30/1048 from the electorate.
ramone:
there’s alot of strong feeling out there
Yes it’s called Federalism v Secession wars have been fought over it and people have given their lives over it.This was a recent example a few miles down the road less than 30 years ago.The difference being that the country’s leadership and military were onside.The tanks are the Federal army and show Federalism in action when it doesn’t get its way.
ramone:
It seems like a thick fog descended on us and the referendim was a figment of our imagination , there’s alot of strong feeling out there
Hows Your head Ramone ? OK Steady So
Remember how the Quartermaster managed to bring you (Us) a full cup of coffee to the bridge in a 9/10
Take a swig at the bottom of the companionway & spit it back in when arriving on the bridge
The worst of all this is it is turning us against each other & that is not good 
I think this sums it up: 
whisperingsmith:
The worst of all this is it is turning us against each other & that is not good
There’s no place for the definition of ‘us’ when ‘remainers’ ( Federalists/EU Nationalists ) view their country as being the EU and its flag and they are the ones doing all the turning against ‘us’ and this country.
So why does a marginal vote in parliment stand whereas a 2 million majority vote by the people of this country not stand.
Carryfast:
ramone:
Carryfast:
ramone:
Liberals = Remain Labour = Whatever Corbyn the Eurosceptic backbencher feels like if he gets in Tory = Leave now he has cleaned up the partyBlimey ramone that’s a typical case of 2 + 2 = 5.Let’s get this right Tony Benn = Labour,Peter Shore = Labour,Eric Heffer = Labour,Kate Hoey = Labour.Heath = Con,Thatcher you know the same Thatcher who campaigned for yes in 1975 = Con,Major = Con,Cameron campaigned for Remain at our expense using a publically funded propaganda campaign to do it.May = Remain.BoJo is on record as being sympathetic to EU membership and he never stood with Davis or Hoey within the Grass Roots Out campaign before the referendum for some reason.He also chose not to remove the government’s defence against the Tilbrook case.He also put on an act of supposedly proroguing parliament while still leaving the door wide open for the remainers to derail the whole process.With the help of the Queen you know the same Queen who signed Royal Assent to the European Communities Act and don’t give me the excuse that she had to because Heath made her do it.Blame whoever you like for all this but don’t blame the Labour Party for it.
WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.
The Tories want out.You mean having lost what majority they might have had with the latest defection to the LibDems and BoJo on record as being sympathetic to EU membership,Having voted for May’s BRINO deal and refusing to drop the defence to the Tilbrook case and leaving enough holes in the ‘prorogation’ of parliament for the remainers to drive a coach and horses followed by the EU army through.While also conveniently air brushing any other inconvenient evidence in that regard from history including what happened between the referendum result and now.
The.simple thing here was Boris went to the EU with a totally different stance to May , the EU got worried because he told them No Deal was a very real option .The EU got on the phone to the Labour MPs and said sort it out you’re going nowhere they jumped immediately and took No Deal out
Carryfast:
whisperingsmith:
> ramone:
> WTF are you going on about , Labour and the Lib Dems want remain the Tories want out simple as that nothing else so why you keep banging on about Heath and Thatcher is beyond me its now not then that matters.That’s why the only way to settle it is a Peoples Vote On It
No the only way to settle treason,including a parliament gone rogue,is by arrest of the criminals who are proposing and supporting it.
While even if a ‘vote’ was the ‘way’ to settle it we had one and the EU Federalists lost because they couldn’t rig it in their favour sufficiently.Unlike the previous one which they won by hiding FCO 30/1048 from the electorate.
For those who have not read about FCO 30/1048 you had better Google it because it is highly relevant. A few weeks ago either barnacle or tusk stated that the EU was going to start intervening in what was published by UK media.
whisperingsmith:
ramone:
It seems like a thick fog descended on us and the referendim was a figment of our imagination , there’s alot of strong feeling out thereHows Your head Ramone ? OK Steady So
Remember how the Quartermaster managed to bring you (Us) a full cup of coffee to the bridge in a 9/10
Take a swig at the bottom of the companionway & spit it back in when arriving on the bridge
The worst of all this is it is turning us against each other & that is not good
I think this sums it up:
Why would they bother? they are likely the clever ones who predicted ACCURATELY that it would be a waste of time because the decision had already been made; if they voted the wrong way it would be ignored. They had read the £9 Million Government pamphlet after all.
Tell me, if we had a referendum tomorrow on Hanging what do you think the result would be? and what action do you think any UK Government would take? The electorate are seen as Plebian fools who can’t be trusted to make the right decision but who are needed to fork out for Duck Houses and platinum-plated pensions.
Think its time for all REMAINERS to go to SPECSAVERS, complete control by the EU if we don’t leave and don’t you think they are not going to put on the jack boots and let us have it thereafter.
Also on the Brexit Broadcasting Company news this morning it stated that 40% of small businesses had not got Brexit ready, well they have had three years to do this and if they have not they deserve to fail.
Bye the way perhaps we should bring back hanging and the program of events should start in Whitehall with the first batch of traitors to the democracy of this country.