Eu referendum whats your vote

Everyone has a view on Brexit even if its just I could’nt give a dam but we all differ in our opinions, the proof in the pudding will come some years after we leave albeit if that is the eventual outcome, then no doubt we will have a bout of I told you so but that is in the future. Spardo I have learned from your retorts to any one who believes as I do we will be better off out of this corrupt organisation which apparently now thinks it is a Nation in its own right when TF did that happen ? never heard that on any news source, or is this like the USA where they proport to be one Nation but really they are a multitude of off shoots banded together all with different rules, laws & regulations under the banner USA.
Are you now living in France or the new Euro Nation thats what i would like to know, waiting with baited breath for your reply bearing in mind I am not having ago at your beliefs just want your opinion on it that’s all, Buzzer

Buzzer:
this corrupt organisation which apparently now thinks it is a Nation in its own right when TF did that happen ? never heard that on any news source, or is this like the USA where they proport to be one Nation but really they are a multitude of off shoots banded together all with different rules, laws & regulations under the banner USA.

It is clearly a Federal state the clue is in the word Union/United etc etc.The definition of a Federation is that the individual states are subservient to ( puppets of ) the Federation and Federal law and the Federal government trumps state law and state legislature.You do know that they fought a war over the issue in America and the Secessionist side unfortunately lost ?.

youtube.com/watch?v=aeGBpTFZhh4

As opposed to the former Yugoslavia where it won. :bulb: :wink:

Buzzer:
Everyone has a view on Brexit even if its just I could’nt give a dam but we all differ in our opinions, the proof in the pudding will come some years after we leave albeit if that is the eventual outcome, then no doubt we will have a bout of I told you so but that is in the future. Spardo I have learned from your retorts to any one who believes as I do we will be better off out of this corrupt organisation which apparently now thinks it is a Nation in its own right when TF did that happen ? never heard that on any news source, or is this like the USA where they proport to be one Nation but really they are a multitude of off shoots banded together all with different rules, laws & regulations under the banner USA.
Are you now living in France or the new Euro Nation thats what i would like to know, waiting with baited breath for your reply bearing in mind I am not having ago at your beliefs just want your opinion on it that’s all, Buzzer

As you well know I don’t accept your description of the EU as a

corrupt organisation

or that it

believes it is a nation in its own right

, so I am not surprised you haven’t heard it on the news.

Which makes your question superfluous don’t you think, especially as it has been answered so many times before?

Spardo:

Buzzer:
Everyone has a view on Brexit even if its just I could’nt give a dam but we all differ in our opinions, the proof in the pudding will come some years after we leave albeit if that is the eventual outcome, then no doubt we will have a bout of I told you so but that is in the future. Spardo I have learned from your retorts to any one who believes as I do we will be better off out of this corrupt organisation which apparently now thinks it is a Nation in its own right when TF did that happen ? never heard that on any news source, or is this like the USA where they proport to be one Nation but really they are a multitude of off shoots banded together all with different rules, laws & regulations under the banner USA.
Are you now living in France or the new Euro Nation thats what i would like to know, waiting with baited breath for your reply bearing in mind I am not having ago at your beliefs just want your opinion on it that’s all, Buzzer

As you well know I don’t accept your description of the EU as a

corrupt organisation

or that it

believes it is a nation in its own right

, so I am not surprised you haven’t heard it on the news.

Which makes your question superfluous don’t you think, especially as it has been answered so many times before?

Ah, but the EU have an anthem!
.
Liverpool FC have “You’ll Never Walk Alone” as their anthem, so they must be a separatist nation state too!
.

Franglais:
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Liverpool FC have “You’ll Never Walk Alone” as their anthem, so they must be a separatist nation state too!
.

But Liverpool FC doesn’t claim to have a National border as the EU claims to have between Ireland and UK nor are its supporters described as citizens nor do they have an international passport confirming that status.Also don’t see the Liverpool FC insignia on military uniforms or the Liverpool FC flag flying regarding international affairs and meetings.If it looks like a Federal duck and quacks like a Federal duck and flies like a Federal duck it’s a duck.The sooner we smash it and return Europe to its rightful status of independent sovereign nation states the better.That includes Germany.

But Liverpool FC doesn’t claim to have a National border as the EU claims to have between Ireland and UK nor are its supporters described as citizens nor do they have an international passport confirming that status.

Neither does the EU, if it did I wouldn’t have had to drive all the way to Peterborough to renew it.

Spardo:

Buzzer:
Spardo just exactly what do you mean by careering to destruction, can you explain what you mean by this as we have not left the EU last time I checked, Buzzer.

Careering means in motion, in motion towards destruction, so the destruction happens when you get there. Out of the EU, that is.

Pollystag:
This is what I come to expect now,
what do you think will happen here when we go out? You honestly believe we wont be able to stand on our own two feet without the help of a corrupt institution that is almost on the point of collapse? Look at France and all the trouble its brought on itself (or are all the rioting videos fake news,ha)
I’m sorry but you are wrong and are probably more worried about not getting your pension paid into a local post office wherever you live than what happens to the eu.

Sorry Steve, I really thought your original post was a genuine enquiry and statement, and I answered it in that vein. I now realise that you were merely preparing to descend like so many others into the same ignorant interpretation of selective news reporting and answering genuine responses with childish insult. The reason I have not taken part so often in this thread recently and your latest has convinced me that I have been right in not doing so.

Pardon?
I’ll take that as an affirmative then.

Carryfast:

Franglais:
.
Liverpool FC have “You’ll Never Walk Alone” as their anthem, so they must be a separatist nation state too!
.

But Liverpool FC doesn’t claim to have a National border as the EU claims to have between Ireland and UK nor are its supporters described as citizens nor do they have an international passport confirming that status.Also don’t see the Liverpool FC insignia on military uniforms or the Liverpool FC flag flying regarding international affairs and meetings.If it looks like a Federal duck and quacks like a Federal duck and flies like a Federal duck it’s a duck.The sooner we smash it and return Europe to its rightful status of independent sovereign nation states the better.That includes Germany.

. . . and if it looks like seething duck in the final stages of meltdown, and sounds like a seething duck in the final stages of meltdown . . .

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Spardo:

But Liverpool FC doesn’t claim to have a National border as the EU claims to have between Ireland and UK nor are its supporters described as citizens nor do they have an international passport confirming that status.

Neither does the EU, if it did I wouldn’t have had to drive all the way to Peterborough to renew it.

Yet more laughable Federalist lies.

So what is the argument concerning the Irish border all about and why does/did the passport in question need to have any reference to a supposedly non existent state in the form of European Union.Actually being the first and foremost title on it and how can anyone possibly be a ‘citizen’ of such a supposed non existent state ?.While how can a non existent Federation possibly have a Federal parliament which passes laws by majority vote and which are then enforceable across the supposed non existent Federation with no sovereign individual right of opt out or substitution by those states.

As I said the UK passport doesn’t have Liverpool FC written on it nor are Liverpool FC supporters regarded as citizens.Unlike the stinking EU.Which hopefully will be smashed and its flag,anthem and government consigned to history sooner or later.Before it has the chance to hurt anyone in a typical war of Federal aggression to assert its authority as is the usual MO of most if not all such types of abomination.

Reading today that JLR are investing multi millions in development of electric cars here in the UK do they know summit about Brexit we don’t or are they not concerned about a no deal scenario, Buzzer

Buzzer:
Reading today that JLR are investing multi millions in development of electric cars here in the UK do they know summit about Brexit we don’t or are they not concerned about a no deal scenario, Buzzer

Yes they know that BRINO is a formality and we will be tied to the EU’s anti fossil fuel and ICE bandwagon.Using legislation and corporate manipulation of same,to create a captive market for the European/Chinese nuclear energy conglomerates and the EV and battery manufacturers/middle men as part of that.Bearing in mind that road fuel duty will also have to be added,to already impossibly expensive Electricity bills,through smart metering.

So there we have it the Cons get what they want.In tying us to the Lisbon treaty in all but name and suddenly the population finds out that they are now even more ruled by Germany and can’t afford to drive a car or heat the house,while living under the threat of a major nuclear disaster.That’ll fix it.

Not often I agree with you CF - but the History Of The English Hiring German Merceries goes back to not long after they arrived in Britain:

"Atrocity on Clyst Heath
Russell then pitched camp on Clyst Heath, and it was here that one the worst atrocities in British history was committed. Lord Russell was concerned about the burden of the nine hundred Cornish prisoners he now had, a matter he discussed with Lord William Grey who was in charge of the German mercenary lanzknechts. It was almost certainly Grey who gave the order and the Germans who carried it out. They had done similar things in their own Peasant’s Revolt and, in response to the order, it took them just ten minutes to slit the throats of all 900 prisoners, a number that derives, not from any Cornish source, but from John Hayward, Edward VI’s own chronicler. This kind of callous and murderous streak seemed to run in Grey’s family. His eldest son, Lord Arthur Grey, Governor of Ireland, was to carry out a similar massacre of 600 unarmed men at Smerwick in 1580."

http://www.cornwallinformation.co.uk/news/the-anglo-cornish-war-of-june-august-1549/

whisperingsmith:
Not often I agree with you CF - but the History Of The English Hiring German Merceries goes back to not long after they arrived in Britain:

"Atrocity on Clyst Heath
Russell then pitched camp on Clyst Heath, and it was here that one the worst atrocities in British history was committed. Lord Russell was concerned about the burden of the nine hundred Cornish prisoners he now had, a matter he discussed with Lord William Grey who was in charge of the German mercenary lanzknechts. It was almost certainly Grey who gave the order and the Germans who carried it out. They had done similar things in their own Peasant’s Revolt and, in response to the order, it took them just ten minutes to slit the throats of all 900 prisoners, a number that derives, not from any Cornish source, but from John Hayward, Edward VI’s own chronicler. This kind of callous and murderous streak seemed to run in Grey’s family. His eldest son, Lord Arthur Grey, Governor of Ireland, was to carry out a similar massacre of 600 unarmed men at Smerwick in 1580."

http://www.cornwallinformation.co.uk/news/the-anglo-cornish-war-of-june-august-1549/

Firstly there was no such actual state as Germany in 1549.While as we know England was also wiped out by the same invading European hordes who wiped out Ireland and Scotland.Bearing in mind that Edward V1 was a direct descendent of that invading line just as HM is.On that note it’s clear that there’s a big difference between Anglo Saxon England,v ‘Germany’.Let alone what came after 1066,in the form of the Franco/German takeover of the country of which Edward V1 was a part just like Edward 1 and all the Plantagenet descended line,that is now reaching its end game,for all of us.Whether we’re Celt or Anglo Saxon ( or a mixture of both :wink: ).

While Nationalist obviously by definition also has to mean Celtic ( Scottish/Irish/Cornish ) Nationalist if we want to recognise England’s rightful borders.Which is why as UK Federalists,not Englishmen,the Tories can never be trusted. :bulb:

As for German Federalist scum imposing Federalism and acting like Germans do who would have thought it.( Not to be confused with Anglo Saxon Englishmen who bravely tried to fight off two Franco/Norman invasions at opposite ends of our country and almost succeeded ).The Camp Jackson Affair is a warning from history to us.

emergingcivilwar.com/2017/01/18 … 61-part-2/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Misso … r_Infantry

Good morning all,
See what you think of this: breakingbrexitnews.blog/…/swi … ies-wi…/
Not yet got the hang of cut and paste. Harvey

HRS:
Good morning all,
See what you think of this: breakingbrexitnews.blog/…/swi … ies-wi…/
Not yet got the hang of cut and paste. Harvey

I`m getting
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What sort of site is this Harvey? Is it a pay to view? Do you need to log in to view?

TRY This: https://breakingbrexitnews.blog/2019/07/07/swiss-set-to-cut-ties-with-eu-if-brussels-hardline-one-size-fits-all-policy-enforced/

whisperingsmith:
TRY This: https://breakingbrexitnews.blog/2019/07/07/swiss-set-to-cut-ties-with-eu-if-brussels-hardline-one-size-fits-all-policy-enforced/

Thank you. That link works for me.

I’m not a big fan of John Major, but he did a good interview recently.
Hard Talk with Stephen Sackur.
Worth a listen IMHO.

> Franglais:
> I’m not a big fan of John Major, but he did a good interview recently.
> Hard Talk with Stephen Sackur.
> Worth a listen IMHO.

Full Interview on BBC I Player

whisperingsmith:
> Franglais:
> I’m not a big fan of John Major, but he did a good interview recently.
> Hard Talk with Stephen Sackur.
> Worth a listen IMHO.

Full Interview on BBC I Player
BBC News - HARDtalk, Sir John Major, former British Prime Minister

The same tory zb who signed us up to Maastricht.