Buzzer:
You really are a sad old pea brain. just criticism and ridicule is what you are about
FFS.
You don’t need me to ridicule you, the above is a typical example. As to critcism, what’s wrong with that? Of course I am critical about the way things are going, and so are you, just want different outcomes, that’s all.
Spardo:
Buzzer:
You really are a sad old pea brain. just criticism and ridicule is what you are about
FFS.You don’t need me to ridicule you, the above is a typical example. As to critcism, what’s wrong with that? Of course I am critical about the way things are going, and so are you, just want different outcomes, that’s all.
Down Shep
ramone:
Down Shep
By heck, that is really constructive 
, could get a job on Buzzer’s farm with that perception. 
I suppose it could be said that that was belittling, but it could also be said that that was belittled.
Spardo:
ramone:
Down ShepBy heck, that is really constructive
I suppose it could be said that that was belittling, but it could also be said that that was belittled.
Are you biting Spardo pardon the pun , i guess the belittling must be a one way street
ramone:
Spardo:
ramone:
Down ShepBy heck, that is really constructive
I suppose it could be said that that was belittling, but it could also be said that that was belittled.
Are you biting Spardo pardon the pun , i guess the belittling must be a one way street
Well yes, apparently it is, but aren’t you falling into danger of a Buzzer ‘non constructive’ jibe?
Oh, and btw, in pardoning your pun, you may (or may not) like to know that in 9 years of transporting dogs, mainly so-called dangerous breeds like Dobermanns, I have only been bitten twice. By a Collie and a Great Dane. Neither serious enough to require a vet. 
No dogs were hurt in the making of this post. 
Absolutely unbelievable!! After three rejections of the heavily EU influenced WA,she is now blaming everyone but herself
for causing her to not deliver brexit.
Sir +:
Absolutely unbelievable!! After three rejections of the heavily EU influenced WA,she is now blaming everyone but herself
for causing her to not deliver brexit.
I won’t defend the woman because I think she’s totally ■■■■■■ up with Brexit, but how can anyone deliver what the people wanted when her own ministers and opposition ministers have rejected everything she has offered, they are happy to say what the disagree with but unhappy about stating what it is they do want.
On Radio 2 today a political reporter summed up the way ahead, and that is to give the people a second referendum not on wether to leave or remain, as that has already been decided and needs to be delivered, but how we are to leave either with or without a deal.
Grumpy Dad:
On Radio 2 today a political reporter summed up the way ahead, and that is to give the people a second referendum not on wether to leave or remain, as that has already been decided and needs to be delivered, but how we are to leave either with or without a deal.
There is no ‘deal’ which the EU could/would offer which would allow us to leave.Because if it did that would be the end of the Federal European project.Because the whole thing is based on the blackmail of trade and/or economic sweeteners/kick backs for sovereignty.In our case obviously bribing those taking the kick backs with our own money and using our money to pay off others.While even the ‘trade’ side of the scam is a deficit liability to us.
Carryfast:
Grumpy Dad:
On Radio 2 today a political reporter summed up the way ahead, and that is to give the people a second referendum not on wether to leave or remain, as that has already been decided and needs to be delivered, but how we are to leave either with or without a deal.There is no ‘deal’ which the EU could/would offer which would allow us to leave.Because if it did that would be the end of the Federal European project.Because the whole thing is based on the blackmail of trade and/or economic sweeteners/kick backs for sovereignty.In our case obviously bribing those taking the kick backs with our own money and using our money to pay off others.While even the ‘trade’ side of the scam is a deficit liability to us.
Brexit from the start was a fiasco, from UKIP turning the EU parliament into a stage for their comedy act down to Cameron throwing his teddy in the corner and storming off.
The Brexit result was a shock to everyone the EU, politicians, remoaners and brexiteers, but the day after the result came in should have been the biggest shock as Cameron should have stood his ground and appointed Boris and Farage to oversee that Brexit was completed, and within a timescale of 6 months have some sort of workable deal to offer, if it wasn’t accepted then come the Brexit deadline we would leave with no deal.
To exit without a deal is far better to leave with one that has a noose around our neck, trading with other nations doesn’t end outside of Europe.
Its a shame that Brexit was not handled like the European football of the last couple of days where if you have the belief you just go forward and show the opposition what you are made of, against the odds in both games determination to the end won through. Now I don’t support either team Liverpool or Tottenham but it is great for this country to have two of our Premier league sides in the final in Madrid and before someone says well the teams are not all British players its still great for the UK.
All things on the Brexit front seem to have gone a tad quiet with TM in desperate mode trying to make herself the martyr in this whole torrid affair, she does not seem to recognise that a lot want her gone on both Labour and the Conservative sides as well as plenty of others, new broom sweeps clean and all that but do we really have anyone with enough bristle and determination to sort out this mess, I am now not too sure on that one, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Now I don’t support either team Liverpool or Tottenham but it is great for this country to have two of our Premier league sides in the final in Madrid and before someone says well the teams are not all British players its still great for the UK.… new broom sweeps clean and all that but do we really have anyone with enough bristle and determination to sort out this mess, I am now not too sure on that one, Buzzer.
I have to agree with you on both fronts though I don’t support either team either, having been born on the United side of Manchester and lived much of my life in the Cloughie era in Nottingham while believing that they only sport worth watching is RL , I wonder if the Barca hating population of Madrid may cheer Liverpool on whoever is the opposition. 
Also, there is no point in changing horses now, not that she is competent but simply because there is no-one else who is either. So may as well stick with what we have and let the whole tragic affair drag on to its natural conclusion.
Spardo:
ramone:
Spardo:
ramone:
Down ShepBy heck, that is really constructive
I suppose it could be said that that was belittling, but it could also be said that that was belittled.
Are you biting Spardo pardon the pun , i guess the belittling must be a one way street
Well yes, apparently it is, but aren’t you falling into danger of a Buzzer ‘non constructive’ jibe?
Oh, and btw, in pardoning your pun, you may (or may not) like to know that in 9 years of transporting dogs, mainly so-called dangerous breeds like Dobermanns, I have only been bitten twice. By a Collie and a Great Dane. Neither serious enough to require a vet.
No dogs were hurt in the making of this post.
Dobermans hey■■? Weren’t they used in the … oh i wont stoop to your level
Grumpy Dad:
Carryfast:
Grumpy Dad:
On Radio 2 today a political reporter summed up the way ahead, and that is to give the people a second referendum not on wether to leave or remain, as that has already been decided and needs to be delivered, but how we are to leave either with or without a deal.There is no ‘deal’ which the EU could/would offer which would allow us to leave.Because if it did that would be the end of the Federal European project.Because the whole thing is based on the blackmail of trade and/or economic sweeteners/kick backs for sovereignty.In our case obviously bribing those taking the kick backs with our own money and using our money to pay off others.While even the ‘trade’ side of the scam is a deficit liability to us.
Brexit from the start was a fiasco, from UKIP turning the EU parliament into a stage for their comedy act down to Cameron throwing his teddy in the corner and storming off.
The Brexit result was a shock to everyone the EU, politicians, remoaners and brexiteers, but the day after the result came in should have been the biggest shock as Cameron should have stood his ground and appointed Boris and Farage to oversee that Brexit was completed, and within a timescale of 6 months have some sort of workable deal to offer, if it wasn’t accepted then come the Brexit deadline we would leave with no deal.
To exit without a deal is far better to leave with one that has a noose around our neck, trading with other nations doesn’t end outside of Europe.
That’s exactly how it should have been done though Cameron was the only one that gave us the vote and he resigned because he openly admitted he wouldn’t be able to represent the country because he was a remainer. Enter May another remainer ffs
Spardo:
Well yes, apparently it is, but aren’t you falling into danger of a Buzzer ‘non constructive’ jibe?
ramone:
Dobermans hey■■? Weren’t they used in the … oh i wont stoop to your level
Oh dear, yes you have done, not that I understood the jibe though. 
Have Farage as the person responsible for Brexit?
?
?
‘He’s not an MP.’! ‘We couldn’t vote him out.’! ‘Appointing him wouldn’t be democratic.’!
What would his job title be “Commissioner”? !
PS. I still owe Ramone an answer. Not forgotten.
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Having read today that Donald Tusk thinks 30% chance of Brexit could be cancelled as he thinks if we had another referendum the Brexiteers will lose, I aint getting the same vibes as him that’s for sure, they sure don’t want to let us go and does he know something we do not, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
I aint getting the same vibes as him that’s for sure,
Nor me, sadly. But I don’t want another ref anyway. 
Buzzer:
Having read today that Donald Tusk thinks 30% chance of Brexit could be cancelled as he thinks if we had another referendum the Brexiteers will lose, I aint getting the same vibes as him that’s for sure, they sure don’t want to let us go and does he know something we do not, Buzzer.
Before I continue I voted to leave
A second referendum does not necessarily mean we have to vote wether we stay or go, everyone including the EU has accepted that we wish to leave, what they can’t decide is how we leave, and a second referendum could give us that choice, A - do we leave with a deal, B - do we leave without.
But politicians have ■■■■■■■■■■■ the system to suit themselves and are hoping that a second referendum would be a stay or go choice again, with the outcome in favour of stay.
Buzzer:
Having read today that Donald Tusk thinks 30% chance of Brexit could be cancelled as he thinks if we had another referendum the Brexiteers will lose, I aint getting the same vibes as him that’s for sure, they sure don’t want to let us go and does he know something we do not, Buzzer.
Translates as Tusk knows that May has already cancelled Brexit and Brexiteers lost from the point when they went along with Farage’s bs idea that it’s ok to vote a de Facto Nation State out of existence and into EU vassalage.As opposed to just saying the European Communities Act is an illegal document in which case our EU membership has been illegal since we joined it.
Which probably explains why we need to go through all the aggro of an EU election when we are supposedly leaving the EU in October and when we were supposedly leaving at the end of March.Either way it’s far better to just boycott the whole process on the grounds that anything to do with maintaining our EU membership is illegal.Which is what the Leave side should have done in 2016 instead of believing that Tory ■■■■■■ Farage and his side kick Cameron.
Grumpy Dad:
A second referendum does not necessarily mean we have to vote wether we stay or go, everyone including the EU has accepted that we wish to leave, what they can’t decide is how we leave, and a second referendum could give us that choice, A - do we leave with a deal, B - do we leave without.
But politicians have [zb] the system to suit themselves and are hoping that a second referendum would be a stay or go choice again, with the outcome in favour of stay.
We can’t possibly leave the EU with a ‘deal’ because the definition of ‘Leave’ and ‘Deal’ in this case is an oxymoron.‘Deal’ can only mean the ongoing acceptance,of the status quo,of sovereignty and cash for trade.The trade in question also all being in the EU’s favour.